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2021/06/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2008/2/11-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:49123 Activity:moderate
2/11    What's the best way to sell used video games.  Most fairly recent.
        I'm never going to play these again and they are worth quite a bit.
        GameStop is a ripoff.  Ebay is a pain in the ass.  Craigslist is
        totally hit and miss.  There has to be an easy way to unload these
        \_ You can have ease or a good price. Pick one.
           \_ I'm willing to sacrifice some price for ease.  I just was
              wondering if there is a good middle ground I'm missing.
              \_ List them here on soda. You might get lucky.
                 \_ A good idea.  Looking at the few replies below, there
                    may be a small but concentrated/local market here.
           \_ agreed.  There are sites like where people
              trade games, but that's not really all that different from
              ebay or CL.  If I really didn't want to sell each game for
              less than a buck, I'd try CL first.  If you buy a lot of
              games, some say the pay-for club thing at gamestop/ebgames
              actually helps.  You can also try to wait for specials where
              they give you more trade-in value if you use it towards a
              preorder.  I originally meant to do CL, but eventually gave
              up on the idea that I'd follow through with it and went the
              ebgames route.
        \_ Some other games stores will buy them. There is a good one
           near me (LA area) called Enteract. There might be one in your
           area. Otherwise, realize that GameStop is paying you less
           because they are less of a PITA than the alternatives and just
           deal with them.
        \_ I recently used Sold my Assasin's Creed for PS3 for
           $35 there. I called GameStop before that and they said they
           would have only given me $18 for it.
        \_ I've sold most of my games using Amazon. It is fairly easy and
           you should be able to get a decent price, esp. for new games.
        \_ I'll pay $15 for Dead Rising. -jrleek
        \_ Speaking of, does anyone wanna buy Forza 2 for the Xbox360?  I'd
           be willing to trade as well. -jrleek
           \_ That's a pack in title right now, so there are tons of copies
              floating around.  Anyone want to buy Mass Effect?  -aspo
              \_ Crud.  They still seem to be asking $40 for it at GameStop.
                 Maybe I can trade it for a copy of Dead Rising there. -jrleek
                 \_ You're a MARRIED MORMON with a full time job, why
                    are you playing computer games?
                    \_ 'Cos they're fun? Oh, wait, you were kidding.
                    \_ I know this is a troll, but I don't even get it.  What
                       are you talking about? -jrleek
                       \_ TV + video games = evil liberal influences. Just
                          look at all the drugs and violence and crazy
                          celebrities like Britney Spears. I thought
                          Mormons are against evil liberal influences.
                       \_ Doesn't procreating and having awesome through
                          me thou will live in The Most Glorious of Glories
                          with me for all eternity Mormon sex take up all of
                          your time?  How do you have time for video games?
              \_ Sorry, I don't think my wife would like me buying a game that
                 features virtual orgasmic rape.
2008/1/30-2/2 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/SW/Security] UID:49034 Activity:moderate
1/30    One of my friend in china is asking me to sign up a world of
        warcarft account for him. I am not too familiar with this
        game, I am going to buy the game from Amazon, and use the
        CD-key to sign up an account. Do I need to tie my credit card
        with the account? Since the online game is fee based, I'd
        imagine I need a credit to get this to work, if so, then I'll
        tell him I can't do it. If I don't need a credit card, then I
        will do it. Does anyone on the motd play this game? Can you
        enlighten me? Thanks!
        \_ Friends don't let friends play the World of Warcraft.
           Mothers Against World of Warcraft.
           \_ Is this guy a "friend" or an actual friend?
        \_ Tell him you can't and let him figure out if you're wrong.
        \_ Sometimes these games allow you to buy a monthly usage card online
           but I don't know if warcraft requires a cc for signup or has the
           monthly thing.  I don't understand why your friend can't just sign
           themself up?
           \_ He claims that he's in China and he can't sign up. How
              do I prove he's wrong?
              \_ 1.5 Chinese World of Warcrack players?
              \_ Go to China and sign up.
                 \_ Remote-Desktop into your friend's machine in China,
                    and sign up.
              \_ He can't sign up for US servers, only on Chinese WoW servers.
                 There's millions more WoW players in asia than there are in
                 the US, but they are all on asian WoW servers.
        \_ It's true.  If you are a good friend, don't help him to play
           WoW in any way.
        \_ he probably wants you tot get a US version of the game so that
           he can get access to US servers. The Chinese version will send him
           to chinese servers.   His play experience will likely suck due to
           more lag, but whatever.   If he plans to go into gold farming there
           might be more market for his 'product' than if he were on a
           china server -- however that's against the game's ToS.  Anyway, you
           can buy the boxed game and  send it over.
           If you try to install and sign in, it will either ask for gamecard
           or credit card info to get the WoW account started. I'd recommend
           not taking that step.   -ERic
           \_ He might also be trying to make a conduit account.  I don't play
              Wow, but my understanding it that the Chinese Gold farmers nead
              dealers (conduits) on the US side to deliver their wares.
              \_ they have plenty of hacked accounts to do this with.
           \_ I can think of a host of reasons why a chinese person might want
              an account on US servers -- most of them involving some from of
              ToS violation -- but there are a few legitimate ones. Maybe he
              wants to play with US friends/aquaintances.  I'm willing to give
              them the benefit of doubt. However, whatever you do don't log
              into the US game (sign up the account) with your own user
              information and/or cerdit card if you plan on handing the account
              over. This makes YOU the 'customer of record' -- the owner of
              the account, responsible for whatever mischief your Chinese
              "friend" wants to commit with it. -ERic
              \_ that's like trying to legitimize one's use of bittoreent
                 because one uses it to download Linux ISO's, when the reality
                 is most of one's use is really restricted-copyright mp3's and
                 videos.  Most likely the intended use of this cross-region WoW
                 account is illegitimate.  Gold Farming, selling gold taken
                 from hacked WoW accounts, etc...
        \_ Very helpful replies. Thanks everyone! I am going to just say no. ;)
2008/1/20-23 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Reference/Military] UID:48976 Activity:nil
1/18    War on Terror: The Board Game
2007/12/31-2008/1/7 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:48877 Activity:nil
12/31   I have a PSP UMD game (Wipeout) that won't load anymore.  The UMD
        looks pretty clean, although the case is fairly beat up.  Any idea
        what could be wrong?  The PSP plays other games.
2007/12/10-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:48778 Activity:moderate
12/10   Fun games to play if you're bored:
        Make sure to tell us what level you get to.
        \_ Level 10... I don't know shit about Africa.
           I would replay it but I don't want to go through the first 9
           levels again.
        \- i think to make the quiz "better" they should 1. make the map
           bigger 2. maybe get rid of country shadings 3. not tell you
           what country things are in. e.g. if they say "city of york"
           obviously the only famous one is york->yorkshire. i suppose there
           are some more fundamental problem as well, but those can be fixed
           via the scoring system [like you error is going to be a lot higher
           via the scoring system [like your error is going to be a lot higher
           on a pacific island than something in england, or central
        \_ Level 11. Twice. -ausman
        \- I think to make the map quiz "better" they need to make the
           map larger, and maybe get rid of country shadings.
           \_ you know why people ignore whatever shit you have to say?
              it's all talk. "\- i think it's better if it is that way
              or this way." Well, wake up. No one cares what you have
              to say. you fix it, or you don't ... the problem persists.
              opinions and criticisms are dime a dozen. do something
              about it or shut the fuck up.
              \- yes, "it's all talk". what were you under the impression
                 the motd was?
        \_ Level 11, both times I played. -ausman
        \_ Level 11: 440,086 points. Bloody South Pacific Islands. --erikred
        \_ L11 also, around 480k. hard to play with track pad ...
           I accidentally put Vancouver in SF and Jerusalem in the South
           Atlantic. The gave me a lot of Mexican resorts.
           \_ Uhm, wait, Vancouver isn't in SF?  Damn....
        \_ game flash countries country iq
2007/11/4-8 [Recreation/Sports, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:48532 Activity:low
11/4    I read of a game once where a a group of people either give each
        other smiles or frowns.  If you get a circle of smiles, everyone
        gets a good amount of points.  If everyone frown, everyone gets few
        points.  If everyone smiles but one guy, who frowns, frown guy
        gets a butt-load of points, but everyone else gets 0.  Sort of a
        "prisoner's deliema" game.  Does anyone know where I can find a writeup
        of this game?  Something more specific?  Thanks
        Addendum: I just want a description of the standard rules.
        \- uh this is a little too braod/vague. this has been under discussion
           since at least jjrousseau and the stag hunt. the "standard" modern
           non-technical work is RAXELROD: Evolution of Cooperation. again
           it depends whether your interesting is (mathmetical) game theory,
           behaviorial game theory (read: psychology), applications to
           social science etc. you might search around for "repeated" or
           "iterated prisoner's dilemma".
           \_ Ok, thanks, I really just want a standard set of group rules.
              \- it's not so much "the rules" but the payoffs ... that's
                 what you use to calculate the equillibria/um, normative
                 strategies ... then you can analyize the empirical w.r.t.
                 to the normative. btw, IPD isnt that exciting, but i suppose
                 it is "the standard" starting point. something like the
                 ultimatium game is more interesting, IMHO.
                 \_ Ok thanks.  Actually, I'm not studying it for academic
                    interest.  I was using it to play with my Sunday School
                    class of 5, 11 year old boys.  It seemed more interesting
                    than hangman.
                    \- you should enter an IPD tournament with the WWJebusD
        \_ I give you a..... SMILEY!
2007/11/1-6 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Industry/Startup] UID:48515 Activity:high
11/1    Intelligient writeup of Google's OpenSocial platform by Marc
        I got a chance to start working with OpenSocial before the public
        release as part of my job at Slide, and it's been a pleasure to work
        with.  If you're looking for an interesting new platform to hack on,
        I'd suggest giving OpenSocial a look.  Incidentally, Slide is hiring.
        Shoot me an email if you're interested in working for Slide. -dans
        \_ You are advertising well: "come work with that motd idiot."
           \_ Clearly, since you think I'm an idiot, you don't want to work
              with me.  Since you lack the courage or the common courtesy to
              stand behind your opinion by signing your name I don't want to
              work with you.  Aww, the feeling is mutual.  It's like we're
              bonding! -dans
              \_ I think you're an idiot, I don't want to work with you,
                 and I'll sign my name.   -tom
                 \_ No offense tom but I'd rather work with dans. At least
                    there's a chance of getting IPO and getting laid.
                    \_ Don't all those hot UCB co-eds want to get laid?
                       \_ not to old grumpy sysadms.
                       \_ "hot UCB co-eds" is an oxymoron
                          \_ Come to Carnegie Mellon, where you won't find anyth\
ing if you don't speak Korean. -jeffwong
                          \_ Come to Carnegie Mellon, where you won't find
                             anything if you don't speak Korean. -jeffwong
                          \_ Exactly, there are no hot blondes.
                             \_ I forgot about our pole vaulter, but I'll
                                admit some exceptions. That girl who posed
                                for Playboy was hot. A dozen hot girls
                                among 13K ugrad coeds doesn't cut it, though.
                                \_ Karen was and is hot. -dans
                                   \_ HAve you snuck her into a bar yet?
                                      \_ I'm pretty sure she's of age, and,
                                         even if she wasn't, I don't see how
                                         it would be my place to do that.
                 \_ Seriously, we should call a truce and have a beer one of
                    these days and see if we still think of each other so
                    poorly. -dans
                    \_ You don't come across better in person, imo. -- ilyas
                       \_ For once I agree with ilyas.
                       \_ Ouch!
                       \_ Ditto. -dans
                          \_ You come across worse in person.
                             \_ My friends disagree. -dans
                                \_ That's selection bias. -- ilyas
              \_ P.S. The "motd idiot" is one of the principal authors of an
                 application that, according to current public estimates,
                 has over 12.5M users.  The M is for millions, not the roman
                          \_ Update: 12.75M
                 numeral M. -dans
                 \_ I thought it was 12.5 Male users, which would be about
        \_ Everyone is hiring.
           \_ Not everyone has anywhere near the reach of Slide:
              I should further note, that just counting web site visitors
              lowballs our numbers spectacularly.
              \_ you:
                 They have more page views, and more views per visit which
                 means they're "stickier" than slide.  Mmmmm, fun with
                                \_ Actually we went to great pains to make
                          *less* sticky.  If you actually
                                   understood what we do, then you'd
                                   understand why that's a smart move. -dans
                                   \_ I've never heard of a business model
                                      where users going away is a good thing.
                                      Seriously, best of luck to you and your
                                      company.  Done here.
                                      \_ Slide makes embeddable content.
                                         Create -> Embed -> Repeat.  Note that
                                         our embeddable content feeds people
                                         back to the site.  You're right, you
                                         are done here since you clearly don't
                                         understand what you're talking about.
                 \_ You should re-read the data.  Actually we have more page
                    views globally, double the uniques in the US and over
                    20M more uniques globally then they do.  We have also
                    managed to soundly trounce them on every platform where we
                    have competed.  You're right, statistics are fun! -dans
                    \_ we are SO impressed that you work for the 400,000th
                       Friendster clone, and that you think you're beating
                       the 399,999th Friendster clone.  Woo.  -tom
                       \_ Slide is not a social network.  And hey, we're only
                          bigger than Digg.  And Craigstlist.  And
                          bigger than Digg.  And Craigslist.  And
                          But, yeah, you're right.  It's probably just a
                          gimmick. -dans
                          gimmick.  Update: we dipped below Craigslist again.
                          Bummer. -dans
                          \_ You had me going for a while until you said you
                             were bigger than Craigslist.  I believe you are
                             now talking out of your ass.
                             \_ Believe what you like; the numbers don't lie.
                          \_ Bigger is a funny word.  In what way are you
                             bigger than Craigslist, for example?  They have
                             been making oodles of raw cash for years with a
                             tiny staff and nearly no hardware.  They have a
                             proven business model.  What's yours?
                             \_ Apply to work here, and, if we're interested,
                                we'll bring you in to sign an NDA and you can
                                find out.  I mean, hey, we were only founded
                                by the former CTO of PayPal, and he clearly
                                                     \_ PayPal sucks
                                has no idea what he's doing. -dans
                                \_ PayPal is a very political company and
                                   most of the original engineers became
                                   disgruntled and started their own company
                                   ... it's called YouTube. Read some of
                                   their employee's blogs on their former
                                   employee, PayPal. In short it's
                                   hardly impressive and mostly crap.
                                   \_ URL? I would like to read these blogs.
                                   \_ Yeah, YouTube is a PayPal cabal company.
                                      It was funded by the Founder's Fund,
                                      which is run by Peter Thiel, the founder
                                      and former CEO of PayPal who recruited
                                      Max to be the CTO of PayPal.  Slide is
                                      funded in part by the Founder's Fund.
                                      Ditto for Yelp, and a bunch of other
                                      PayPal cabal companies.  You may not
                                      find the engineering challenges that
                                      PayPal solved to be impressive, but then
                                      I suspect you don't really understand
                                      what PayPal is at it's core.  Yes,
                                      PayPal does payment processing, but
                                      that's not the interesting or
                                      challenging part of the business.
                                      Fundamentally, PayPal is a
                                      risk-management company, and there are
                                      some pretty cool problems to be solved
                                      there.  Also, I find it amusing that you
                                      write off a company that had a 1.5B
                                      liquidity event as crap. -dans
                                      \_ I think Youtube guy is engaged to
                                         the daughter of the Netscape/SGI
                             \_ Their business model is to sell advertising
                                through their widgets which users of friendster
                                clones add to their profiles. I find the
                                thing plausible but questionable given
                                that they don't really own the space they are
                                playing in and the widgets are dispensable/
                                interchangeable. How valuable is having an
                                ad on that stuff and how do you measure it?
                                How much would users or the host sites put
                                up with? I'm not in that industry so, shrug.
                                \_ Oh, that's our business model.  Thanks for
                                   enlightening me. -dans
                                \_ Oh.  So that's our business model.  Thanks
                                   for enlightening me. -dans
                                  \_ You could have just looked at:
                                     But hey, glad I could help.
                                     \_ It's cute how you see that and assume
                                        to have complete knowledge of our
                                        business model. -dans
                                        \_ I don't understand why you have a
                                           secret business model.  Is it the
                                           slave trade?  Drugs?  Small arms?
                                           \_ So I used to believe that
                                              running everything out in the
                                              open was the smartest way to run
                                              a company.  Working at Slide has
                                              made me reconsider that.
                                              Sometimes there's value to be
                                              had in playing things more close
                                              to the vest. -dans
                                            \_ So the advertising program is
                                               just a sham? I don't assume to
                                               have complete knowledge of it.
                                               I don't really understand how
                                               youtube or imageshack make $$$.
                                               I run adblock so maybe I miss
                                               things sometimes. Anyway, the
                                               advertising is obviously part of
                                               the model at least. Aren't all
                                               these companies based on ads?
                                               Isn't that why you care about
                                               page views? I can't see anyone
                                               paying to use these widgets.
                                               Really though I was trolling
                                               you for information.
                                               \_ Of course the advertising is
                                                  part of it. -dans
                    \_ Here's the fun part you missed out on because you think
                       these numbers are either accurate or mean something:
                       this is just a statistics game.  The numbers don't
                       mean anything.  Here's something that does for those
                       looking to get some startup money: your company has
                       over 120 people on staff these days, right?  Your
                       competitor has about 20, right?  When/if each company
                       sells, someone hired at your company now will have a
                       much smaller option package than your competitor.
                       They can sell for half as much as yours (unlikely) and
                       still make individual employees more money in the
                       transaction.  Like I said, fun with statistics, which
                       btw yours are wrong.  You: global views: 542,034,086
                       Them: 635,964,222.  And as I said, your stickiness is
                       way lower.  Uniques are just people who signed up and
                       went away.  But I guess you have to find something to
                       hang your hat on.
                       this is just a statistics game.  The numbers don't mean
                       anything.  Here's something that does for those looking
                       to get some startup money: your company has over 120
                       people on staff these days, right?  Your competitor has
                       \_ That's an interesting number.  You can look on our
                          website to see if we've publicized the actual
                          number.  I can't disclose it under the terms of my
                          NDA. -dans
                          \_ Uhm whatever.
                             \_ Um, yeah.  Stop making shit up. -dans
                       about 20, right?  When/if each company sells, someone
                       hired at your company now will have a much smaller
                       option package than your competitor.  They can sell for
                       \_ Funny I explained precisely this to my last friend I
                          recruited.  Our grants are still big enough to be
                          worthwhile.  Also, you have a bunch of facts wrong
                          regarding both Slide and our closest competitor.
                          \_ Ok, correct me.  What are the facts?  And if
                             yours are 'worthwhile' your smaller competitor's
                             should be 'more than merely worthwhile', yes?
                             \_ If you apply, you can sign an NDA and all
                                shall be revealed. -dans
                       only half as much as yours (unlikely) and still make
                       individual employees more money in the transaction.
                       Like I said, fun with statistics, which btw yours are
                       wrong.  You: global views: 542,034,086 Them:
                       635,964,222.  And as I said, your stickiness is way
                       lower.  Uniques are just people who signed up and went
                       away.  But I guess you have to find something to hang
                       your hat on.
                       \_ Actually those are the public numbers.  I could also
                          point you to Alexa numbers which are, compared to
                          Quantcast, crap.  Unfortunately, I can't point to
                          our internal numbers, as they are way more accurate,
                          alas, that's privileged information. -dans
                          \_ Ok, again, you're missing the core concept here.
                             I'll try again.  Slowly.  These numbers don't
                             mean anything.  You could have 10x or 1000000x
                             those numbers.  It would mean nothing.  I'm
                             curious: were you working during the last dotcom
                             round in the 90s to 2001 or so?  We believed all
                             sorts of crazy shit then, too.
                             \_ No, I think you're the one misssing the point,
                                which is that when enough people use a
                                company's products every day, you have to
                                acknowledge that maybe there's more to it than
                                just hype.  For the record, I came out here in
                                '97.  I dropped out of Berkeley in '99 to
                                start a company, and closed a $500K angel
                                round literally months before the bubble
                                burst.  That company cratered, but it was a
                                valuable learning experience. -dans
                                \_ people used and webvan, too.
                                   \_ How many people used them?  I seriously
                                      doubt either one ever got anywhere near
                                      our size.  Also, we don't have the
                                      overhead of shipping 50 pound bags of
                                      dog food or running a shipping fleet.
2007/10/20-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:48399 Activity:nil
10/20   Will Cal pooch the Big Game for the choke trifecta?
        \_ Poodles vs. Labs.  Who is smartest?!
           \_ Border collies.
2007/10/7 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:48256 Activity:nil
10/7    Odds on Cal pooching it and losing to both USC and at the Big Game?
2007/9/21-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:48144 Activity:nil
9/20    anyone get that Xbox game yet where you shoot your way through
        first scene in the John Woo movie Hardboiled ?
2007/9/19-22 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:48120 Activity:nil
9/19 is remaking Eon's Cosmic Encounters
        \_ Where was this announced?
           \_ I'm on an email list where they announced it.  If you want I
              can repost the email here but it pretty much is what I said
              plus marketing fluff.  -op
        \_ Hopefully it is better than Hasbro's dismal showing.
2021/06/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2007/9/16-22 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:48082 Activity:nil
9/15    I just got an old PS/2 (SCPH-30001R), and it works, except that it
        seems to take about 20 seconds for it to even start spinning the disk,
        let alone load the thing.  Is this normal?  Shouldn't it load the
        game right off?  -never owned a PS/2 before
        \_ More than likely you have a dirty lens on your laser.  If you open
           up the case you can then open up the disk tray (lots of tutorials
           online, but you don't really need them).  Then you can wipe off
           the lens with a Q-tip and alcohol.  The extra 20 seconds is from
           the laser focusing.  -scottyg
           \_ Ah, thanks.  So it is supposed to start right up? Cool.  It's
              supposed to go right from the floating cubes screen to the game
              loading screen, right?  I actually think I need to adjust the
              laser I already cleaned it.
              \_ I have a first generation PS/2 and mine never did that.
                 It goes from the cubes to spining dots screen and
                 sits there for 10-20 seconds before the game starts.
                 \_ Oh, really?  Hanging out for 20 seconds at the spinning
                    dots is normal?  Huh, I guess as long as it works I'll
                    quit worring about it.
              \_ laser adjustment is primarily necessary for the first few
                 models that had early laser failures where it had trouble
                 reading blue PS2 discs and/or dvd movies.  If it's spinning
                 up and down and up and down, that's probably the cause.  If
                 it just spins up slower, it may be the drive motor.
        \_ Addendum: I timed it tonight, it takes 65s to spin the disk, then
           10s to start loading. -op
           \_ That is waay too long.  I hope you didn't pay for it and got
              it from someone tossing theirs.  I've noticed that many
              online game accessory stores carry replacement parts for most
              consoles.  Maybe you can find a drive for cheap?  If you have
              the patience, I guess you can play until it finally dies.  I
              can see if I still have the old PS2 that had the laser death
              if you want to try a bit of surgery, though I think I tossed it
              during my last move.
              \_ I paid $5.  I guess I'll just play it till it dies.
2007/8/23-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47725 Activity:nil
8/23    Typoon 2001, and awesome free remake of the Atari Jaguar hit Tempest
        2000.  Currently Windows only.  Try it out , it's a really great game.
2007/8/20-21 [Transportation/Car, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47674 Activity:nil
2007/7/29-8/2 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:47461 Activity:nil
7/28    LucasArts is releasing a Lego Indiana Jones game: (
2007/7/25-26 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47417 Activity:nil
        Pretty fun flash game! What level did you get up to?
        \_ i got to level 14 then clicked on an ad URL.  I lose.
           \_ i thought you win big when you punch the monkey?  ;-)
2007/7/19-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47342 Activity:nil
7/19    Wow.  Checkers has been solved.
        \_ International checkers (which is a much better game) has a 10x10
           board and rules that much culling much harder.
2007/7/19-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:47336 Activity:kinda low
7/19    For NetTrek fans - MacTrek, a Native NetTrek implementation for
        OS X (its a UB as well):
        \_ Wow.  It's been a long time since I played (like over a decade).
           Does anyone here know the origin of the term "ogging" to be a
           massive suicide assault?
           \_ Yes.  Terence Chang (Exxon Valdez) started playing here at
              Berkeley, and then went to grad school at CMU and started
              a server there.  The CMU guys are all weenies, so he played
              much more aggressively than they did, and there was one
              particular game where the server was full, and Terence joined
              as an Orion in one of the extra slots (Og) and started
              dooshing people with armies.  One of the weenies, I forget
              which one (probably Rick) started messaging that Og kept
              coming after him, he was being Oggggggged.
              "Doosh" was a Berkeley term, coined by annoyed CS60C students
              to describe the noises made by Buen (Freeman) while he played
              netrek.   -tom
              \_ Were you actually there for that game tom?  As much as I
                 disagree with your politics, hearing nettrek games in the Web
                 or Evans 2nd floor are some of my fondest memories of 1991-2.
                 \_ I certainly heard Buen going "doosh doosh" a lot.  The
                    term kind of got coined in the GRIPES file, which was
                    a world-writable file in the c60c directory that
                    students could write stuff in.  After a bunch of
                    complaints, games were "banned" with a couple weeks to
                    go in the semester.
                    After the semester, a bunch of us (me, kube, oj spring
                    to mind) had a game where we started up DOOSH DOOSH
                    characters, and dooshed everyone in site, which is what
                    brought the term into the lexicon.  -tom
                    \_ Awesome.  I don't know if anything will match the
                       fun/frustration of playing nettrek on diskless Suns.
                       \_ Trying to write papers on those self-same machines
                          while roy and others were constantly renicing,
                          xroaching, or meltdowning your machine probably comes
                          close in the frustration category. --erikred
                       \_ It used to take 45 minutes to compile out big ass
                       \_ It used to take 45 minutes to compile our big ass
                          app on a single Sun machine.  Then we changed the
                          compile process to distribute the compiles across
                          both the web and the E260 machines, and it compiled
                          in 5 minutes.  The best part was watching the netrek
                          players start cursing and yelling "LAGGGG!!!" when
                          2 or 3 of our compile processes hit their machines.
                          \_ in the age of xtrek/RIP routing, the real lag was
                             caused by "out of band" bttacks like routing the
                             packets through MIT.
                    \_ My memories are a little bit fuzzy but I was a CS60C
                       grader at that point and I vaguely remember a message,
                       it could have been from the gripes file or an e-mail,
                       complaining about a "dorky guy with a ponytail
                       constantly yelling out 'doosh doosh' in the computer
                       lab" -eric
                       \_ Exactly.  -tom
2007/7/9-13 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47238 Activity:nil
7/9     Using multiplayer Alternate Reality Games on the Internet to find
        solutions to complex world problems
        \_ WE NEED MORE GOLD!
2007/7/6-7 [Recreation/Computer, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47197 Activity:nil
7/6     Marta Domachowska: bustier than other Eastern Europe tennis players
2007/6/29-7/1 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47118 Activity:nil
6/29    worksafe
        \_ I'm not going to a site called "play corn hole", no matter what you
           label it.
           \_ WORKSAFE! I SWEAR!
              "Cornhole or Corn Toss is similar to horseshoes except you use
              wooden boxes called cornhole platforms and corn bags instead of
              horseshoes and metal stakes. Contestants take turns pitching
              their corn bags at the cornhole platform until a contestant
              reaches the score of 21 points. A corn bag in the hole scores 3
              points, while one on the platform scores 1 point."
2007/6/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47085 Activity:nil
6/26    Cool little web game I found:
        Let me know if you join, I started guild "SYM" which should
        appeal to csua'ers... -John
2007/6/16-20 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:46984 Activity:high
6/16    article on chinese (gold) farmers --psb
        \_ I never really understood why people pay real cash for loot in
           these games.  They don't take that long to hit the level cap and
           long before you're there you should have more cash than you know
           what to do with.  And really, isn't getting loot and leveling the
           whole point of these games?
           \_ Becuase some loot is mind numbingly boring to get, and the only
              'challenge' is putting in the time to acquire it.  Take the
              worst case -- epic flying mount, which once you have the level,
              the only requirement is 5000g.  You can 'farm' -- repeatedly
              killing stuff for gold, netting, say 50g an hour -- thats a
              100 hour investment.  Or you can just go buy the gold for real
              cash from one of these operations.    But many of the 'best
              stuff' is not buyable, you have to 'earn it' yourself in big
              raids.  But  much of the raid design requiers you to get potions
              and enchants to prepare for the raid, and THIS is stuff you can
              buy from others (including farming operations).  There are many
              who would prefer to raid rather than farm for materials to
              support their raiding.  The guild Nihilum, who were the first to
              complete some end-game boss raids, admitted to doing this, at
              one point.
              \_ Ok, I can see how that goes.  But it seems to me that rather
                 than pay someone to do the 'boring' parts of the game it
                 would be better to play a different game.  If all games have
                 parts that are (semi)mandatory but boring then maybe it would
                 be better if everyone just stopped playing these sorts of
                 games until developers respond.
                 \_ OK, you get on that WoW boycott and let us know how it
                    works for you.
                    \_ I bought my copy a month after it started.  I played for
                       about 5 nights and just stopped.  It was totally boring
                       and I didn't even get to the point of grinding anything.
                       \_ 5 days isn't far enough into the game to see any
                          of this.
                          \_ 5 days into the game was more than enough to see
                             that it was a boring waste of time and effort.  As
                             I said I didn't get the "opportunity" to grind
                             the game because it sucked too much to bother to
                             get that far.
                    \_ I don't know about pp, but my Wow boycott has been great
                       for me.  I save money, have more time, AND don't have to
                       grind.  I recommend it.
                       \_ Me too. I play other games still, so I'm not saving
                          that much time, but I get a much greater variety of
                          experiences. I can play Angband if I want to grind.
                          The social aspect of WoW isn't very interesting
                          and requires large chunks of time to maintain.
                          An MMO with more focus on player-driven world
                          economy and power would be more interesting for me.
                          Still hard to avoid the time sink effect in a
                          realtime game world.
                          \_ EVE onlnie has much of this.  The problem is it
                             is hard to find direction in their world.  There
                             is no clear path of quests and levelling to follow
                             and puts of a lot of people.  the "now, what do I
                             do ??" effect.
                             \_ Sounds like you are not tall enough for EVE.
                             \_ I have read about EVE and yeah it's the one
                                that seems closest however it is still based
                                on grinding for resources at heart. At least
                                your group can struggle for the most lucrative
                                places and stuff. Still too much work stuff.
                                In a single player game you can play someone
                                who is really special, as opposed to superhero
                                class 14881 instance 74941781, wait in line
                                to kill evil overlord #4281 for the 654819th
                 \_ "The Grind" is a design feature of MMOs.  People enjoy
                    MMOs for the same reason they enjoy exercise -- there is
                    an endorphin release involved with delayed gratification.
                    People who bypass 'the grind' perhaps crave adrenaline
                    release instead.
                      -- ilyas
                    \_ The Grind is an example of poor story design. A better
                       idea would be more single-player quests. Hard to tell if
                       this is a limitation of the system or the designers.
                       \_ 'The grind' has nothing to do with 'the story.'
                          Look at angband -- it's all grind, no story, and
                          people play it.  'The story' caters to people who view
                          video games like a book, 'the grind' caters to
                          people play it.  'The story' caters to people who
                          view video games like a book, 'the grind' caters to
                          people who view video games like exercise.  The grind
                          isn't really a flawed concept -- it fulfills a
                          need in certain sorts of players.  Are 'one-armed
                          bandits' in Vegas flawed?  You need to get away from
                          this "I don't like it -> it must be bad design" thing.
                          Actually angband reminded me of another
                          this "I don't like it -> it must be bad design"
                          thing. Actually angband reminded me of another
                          psychologically powerful feature of 'the grind' --
                          it relies on uncertain rewards, and so results in
                          gambling behavior where you gamble with your time
                          instead of your money.  Delayed gratification coupled
                          with uncertain rewards is powerfully addictive stuff.
                            -- ilyas
                          \_ If I understand you correctly, you're saying that
                             the Grind is like Minesweeper. That's cool, but
                             minesweeper is an opt-in activity, not one you
                             have to play N times before you're allowed to
                             play Freecell. If the Grind were option, if you
                             could level w/o Grinding, I'd buy your argument.
                             Since you generally cannot, I suggest to you that
                             the Grind is used in place of good story dev.
                             \_ There is no freecell, though.  The grind never
                                stops, you never get past it to get at some
                                other phase of the game.  If you don't like
                                the grind you shouldn't play games with grind
                                in it.  Perhaps what confuses you is that
                                leveling has two purposes in games -- it's
                                a tool to pace content consumption, and it's
                                (one of the) tools for grinding.  Sounds like
                                you are interested in content consumption,
                                and that's fine -- there are plenty of games
                                built on that.  But that doesn't imply there
                                is something wrong with the grind as a gameplay
                                feature.  A pure 'content consumption' game
                                would be something like Myst.  A pure 'grind'
                                game would be something like angband (or diablo
                                its derivative).  Both are fine games, they
                                just appeal to very different players. -- ilyas
                                \_ Well, those grind games do have some sort of
                                   content: new monsters, areas, and abilities.
                                   So the gameplay does change a bit over time.
                                   This stuff is fairly minor of course, but
                                   it keeps the grind feeling fresh over time.
                                   Diablo also has a few high quality movies
                                   to reward you. In the long run it is simple
                                   gambling for random items as you say.
                                   \_ The new monsters are just like the old
                                      monsters with more hit points and they
                                      hit back harder.  The new areas is just
                                      a bigger place to walk through, killing
                                      more play time.  New abilities can change
                                      game play but not if it is just "spell
                                      damage++".  I played several MMOs for
                                      years and just don't see the point
                                      \_ I don't see the point either, although
                                         I did enjoy Diablo where you could
                                         beat it in reasonable time. I was just
                                         pointing out that the different quests
                                         and such is content and takes writers
                                         and artists and such. I wasn't
                                         commenting on the value of it.
                                         \_ Most of this thread can be summed
                                            up by an exchange that occurred
                                            between me and a friend who really
                                            wanted me to get into Diablo:
                                Me: "Liked D, but thought it repetitive."
                                Him: (Ironically) "Ya think?"
                \_ The 'grind' in general is a means of keeping players *in*
                   the game, in that they have limited developer time to design
                   the 'end game stuff'  and once players have it, then what?
                   in a few days they get bored and quit.  These games are
                   subscription based, keeping them in the same game is how
                   the publisher gets money. Unlike a pay to buy the game model
                   where you want the players to burn through the game and get
                   a new one.   I don't really agree with the model here, but
                   its what they do.
                   \_ I suspect there will come a point where either someone
                      designs a game that isn't like that and kills the entire
                      current crop or enough people just give up on the MMORPG
                      thing that the genre slowly fades away.  I hope for the
                      \_ I am taking bets that neither the former nor the
                         latter will ever happen. -- ilyas
2007/5/13-16 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Consumer/TV] UID:46614 Activity:nil
5/13    Has anyone tried using a 1080p TV as a monitor (games? presentatino?)
        How's the quality?
        \_ I'm using a 24" 1080p monitor works great.
2007/5/3-5 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:46517 Activity:nil
5/2     Make and FPS map of your HS go to jail as a terrorist: (
2007/5/2-4 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:46505 Activity:moderate
5/1     I have roughly $500 to spend on a "toy". The finalists are PS3,TiVo,
        Sirius or an High Def TV. I am concerned though; that the technology
        is still too new and the prices may drop further. Which one of these
        is the safest bet to be a good deal? Thanks
        \_ Wii
        \_ second the Wii, get 2 controllers and 2 nunchucks and box it out
        \_ $500 isn't enough for an HDTV. PS3 will drop in price. Tivo is
           only good if you have analog cable (the HD Tivo is more than
        \_ PS3 will drop about 100 dollars in a year, good games for it
           won't really exist for about 3-6 months.  Is that worth it to you?
           High def needs $1000 at least.  The other two seem stupid to me
           but then again I'm not big on radio and I get my tv online.
        \_ PS3 is $600 not $500. And anyway there don't seem to be any great
           games yet (or maybe one). New Xbox 360 Elite is $480 though and
           has more games. I guess you should first look into an HDTV so that
           you can get the benefit from the other things. I don't recommend the
           Wii because there are few good games. It's fun for a while though.
           The Nintendo DS is fun. A 360 with Guitar Hero 2 etc would be a
           better "investment". Another fun toy to consider: a Glock 19 (~$550)
        \_ is there any small (19" HDTV) for less than $500?
           \_ at that size, it would be much more economical to just put in a
              HDTV tuner in your computer.
           \_ Dell sells widescreen monitors for $400.
2007/4/25-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:46444 Activity:low
4/24    Is it cool that Politburo is spending $600 on XBox 360, even if it is
        ASUC money? How about hardware that doesn't crash instead.
        \_ Video games are a huge recruiting resource.  While I agree it'd be
           nice if soda wasn't probabilistic, having an xbox 360 in the office
           probably brings in more new members than anything to do with soda.
        \_ Do XBox 360s crash? They may be doing just what you suggest.
           \_ Seriously. Regardless of changes in youth culture, you can't put
              "played video games" on yer resume. I always thought there was an
              educational mission implicit in the CSUA's activities.
              \_ Nor can you put "ate food at bbq".  Clubs are clubs.  Social
                 events are part of the club.  A video game system in the
                 office is a social thing.  Previous generations had a snes
                 and a ps2, this is about the same.
                 \_ I have always viewed the CSUA primarily as a social
                    organization; the goal should be to build community.
                    Game-playing can be part of that, and game-playing has
                    certainly been a large part of the history of the CSUA,
                    dating back to netrek/nethack/griljor, not to mention
                    the Risk tournament.  I do think that the organizaton
                    needs to accomplish more than it currently is to earn
                    the credibility to spend a bunch of money on a game
                    system.  If the CSUA is viewed as "that office where
                    geeks just sit around playing Xbox," and the basic
                    business of the organization isn't being taken care of,
                    it could lead to serious problems with the CS department
                    and with the ASUC.  -tom
                    \_ Well said.
2007/4/18-20 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea, Recreation/Computer/Games, Reference/Military] UID:46364 Activity:moderate
4/18    I can't hit shit with my dominant hand with a .22
        How the hell did Korean Shooter manage to shoot 50 people?
        Did Chow Yun Fat train him?
        \_ Some people are naturals...I personally took a pistol course
           offered through my martial arts class taught by the same people who
           train FBI agents.  AT the end we were tested, I got an expert  level
           marksmanship (highest).  I hit the target every single time (50
           rounds)...only two rounds were not within the first circle of the
           target.  This was all while moving, at varying distances.  Note, I've
           never owned a gun before or since.  I do have better than 20-20
           eyesight. -scottyg
        \_ the sheeple just sat there waiting for their turn
        \- he did a lot of "hand exercises"
        \_ lots of CS.  many victims were shot 3+ times, some in the head,
           which is what you do in CS -- shoot for the body while they jump
           around, and then for the head when they slow down.
           besides, most dead people were found in two classrooms, with him
           blocking the only exit (no backdoor).
           he shot a girl in the mouth.
           \_ What does CS stand for?
              \_ Counter-Strike
           \_ Unless he was playing CS on a Wii or with a Light Gun, I don't
              see how this translates. Your mouse is not a pistol.
              \_ ob CS + hands-on practice + some dexterity
                 a friend who is a trained shooter pulls single shots
                 between multi-second pauses playing a stand-up arcade game.
                 I agree just CS is not sufficient.
        \_ Glock 19 comes with 3 15round mags. From the picture of the
           hollow points, and the statement of the gun store, he bought
           Remington HPs - the cheapest HP - because they come in qty 50
           Most HPs are sold in qty 20.
2007/3/30-4/3 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:46152 Activity:nil
3/30    Batman Lego Game:
        \_ If it's as fun as Lego Star Wars, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
           \_ Totally, Lego Star Wars (I and II) were excellent games.
              You know what would be really k3wl - Lego Monkey Island.
2007/2/25-3/1 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45818 Activity:nil
2/25    Call of Duty 3 on Wii-- worst game for Wii, evar. The controls
        are unlike the other Wiis, where aiming and focus is slow,
        imprecise, and unintuitive. The jeep driving part is totally
        unplayable where you have very little control over the vehicle
        because the Wii tilt sensor has a 500ms delay. I loved CoD2 and
        CoD1, but CoD3 is worst game of them all. Don't waste your
        money on it.
2007/2/23-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics] UID:45800 Activity:nil
        Lock Bumping. 90% of the locks can be opened easily with this
        \_ O Motd, benificent, what locks are recommended to avoid this?
           \_ The video mentions Medeco and Primus
              \_ If you listen carefully, it also mentions Schlage. -dans
2007/2/13 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:45725 Activity:nil
2/13    the few times I offer blow-jobs and he, swear to goddess,
        says "after the save point," and, really, all he has to do is
        pause the fucking game.  that's when I stomp off in a huff
        because no sane man should turn down a blow-job
2007/2/5-7 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45656 Activity:nil
2/5     I told you the PS3 was too expensive and they'd have to cut prices.
        My follow-up prediction was that Sony could price themselves entirely
        out of the game console market pulling off a major crash'n'burn with
        the PS3 debacle.  You heard it here first.
        \_ No no no. *I* predicted on motd that the PS3 would be a
           complete debacle before *you* did. Shut up.
        \_ Let me guess, you also shorted google.
           \_ No, I'd never short a company that won't reveal what they do or
              how they do it.  I don't believe in magic or secret IT rituals.
2007/1/16-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45548 Activity:nil
1/15    Dear motd prediction guy, your prediction is WAAAAAAAAAAY off.
        I have personally been monitoring the prices, and it appears that
        in reality PS3 supply has matched up with demand quite well. BestBuy
        and eBay supplies are plenty, as bids from 12/25-now have been
        in the $600-$700 range.
           Wii on the other hand took everyone by surprise. Bids have cooled
        from $480 range before Christmas to about $350 lately on eBay.
           Moral of the story: It's not about pixel and superior graphics. It
        is all about fun and playability. PS3 has 10X better graphics, but
        who cares? Wii is 100X more fun.
        \_ Personally, I was really looking forward to the Wii, but I didn't
           expect it to be impossible to get.  It's popularity has certainly
           caught me by surprise.  Of course, it it boat-loads of fun.  I'm
           curious how the PS3 will do when some decent games appear.  So far
           the graphics are no better than the 360, and the games suck.
           \_ Slightly better graphics + same playability <<<
              Same graphics + superior playability.
              Sorry, but Sony really fucked up this time.
              \_ Wait, who do you say has the slightly better graphics?
                 Wii graphics are clearly worse. Also, I thought Wii Sports
                 was fun for a while but lately I just keep crossing it
                 on the serve return and the other guy has no chance to get
                 to the ball (because you have no control of the character).
                 And at this point the only other games I'm interested in
                 are Zelda (also for GC) and... yeah.
        \_ I have a Wii and it is 480p. How about XBox and PS3? Do both of
           them support 720p and 1080p?
2007/1/15-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45547 Activity:nil
1/15    Nintendo geeks, this is for you:
2006/12/26-30 [Reference/Celebration, Recreation/Computer/Games, Consumer/Audio] UID:45497 Activity:nil
12/26   What did you guys get for Christmas? Anyone got a new car or Wii?
        \_ Eight new cell phones for my extended family.
        \_ Some pants from Banana Republic, an iPod, a nice tie, a nice
           bottle of scotch.
2006/12/26-30 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Display] UID:45494 Activity:nil
12/26   I just got a Wii and it looks bad on my 10 year old 20" tube.
        What is the resolution of RCA connectors? If I get a new plasma
        or LCD will it look better?
        \_ component cable will make it better
2006/12/12-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45438 Activity:nil
12/11   Anyone reccomend a way that a desktop and a ps2 can share
        a flat screenn monitor that has only a vga connector? I would
        like to be able to not to use my TV to play ps2 games and I don't
        have the $$ yet to upgrade to a ps3.
        \_ There are a great many products like this:
           around.  My sister has one she bought at Liksang, and she
           seems happy with it.  Of course, Liksang is now out of business
           so I can't point you directly to that.
2006/11/22-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45360 Activity:moderate
        Video of PS3 vs. Nintendo Wii (kind of like I'm a PC, I'm a Mac)
        PS: Lots of bikini but no nudity. May o/r may not be work safe.
            And BTW it's better without sound.
        \_ this is work-safe only in O'Reilly's production studio
2006/11/17-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45350 Activity:nil
        Nintendo Wii preferred by previewers over PS3. Wheeeee!
2006/11/16-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Media] UID:45343 Activity:nil
        Coca-cola + mentos = explosion. Fun video.
2006/11/11-12 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:45330 Activity:high
11/11   Why is Cal trying to lose the game?  Red zone, three downs, can't
        TD, why does it feel like the '90s again.
        \_ This game left a bad taste in my mouth. Cal didn't play well,
           but the Hughes interception overturned and Hawkins' ability to
           turn 2 TDs into FGs really hurt. Cal should have won this game,
           despite Longshore playing like dookie. So if Cal beats USC
           and Stanford, we can still go to the Rose Bowl, right? Same as
                         \_ we?  you're on the team?  cool!
           it was before this game happened. BTW, I thought Cal should
           have gone for it on 4th and goal. What good does the FG do
           unless you're worried AZ is going to kick one, too? Cal needed
           the TD. Stupid Hawkins.
           \_ We needed two scores to win.  If Jackson's foot lands one inch
              \_ You're on the team, too?  That's awesome.  I had no idea so
                 many soda geeks played football for Cal on the side.  Way to
                 go sodans!
                 \_ you're a moron.  -tom
                    \_ *laugh* one day 'we' hope to be smart like you.
              differently, we would have won the game because we kicked a
              field goal on the previous posession.  -tom
              \_ Yes, but even without it Cal would have tied. The way
                 it worked out Cal lost. Counting on a miracle drive to
                 win is risky. I'd have rather gone for the TD. It's
                 a lot easier to gain 3 yards than 88 yards.
                 \_ We had just lost yardage on two consecutive plays,
                    then almost had a pass picked off.  Our chance of
                    converting on fourth down was likely less than 50%,
                    and there was plenty of time left on the clock (over
                    7 minutes).  And in fact, we did get the ball back and
                    we did have a really good chance to score.  It didn't
                    work out.  Sometimes that happens.  -tom
                    work out.  Sometimes that happens.  -tom, bear apologist
                    \_ Probably, but what are the chances of converting on
                       an 88 yard drive when we hadn't gone on a drive all
                       game? If AZ had made one more first down Cal
                       wouldn't have even gotten the ball back.
2006/11/11-12 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45324 Activity:kinda low
11/11   What's a better game, GTA Vice City or GTA III?
        \_ If I ever get past that damn RC airplane task Vice City might be
           \_ this mission is much more fun once you connect a gamepad to
              your PC.  I recommend the Logitech wireless rumble one.
        \_ IMO, though each of VC and SA have been technically better than "3",
           they've been less fun as the areas have gotten bigger and you feel
           that getting to know every nook and cranny of "the town" would take
           you for-frickin-ever.  In 3, you could do so, and it was fun.
2006/11/9-10 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45290 Activity:low
11/9    French Minister thinks that video game makers should get tax
        breaks b/c they are artists just like film makers:
        \_ I think there's very little artistic difference between video game
           design production and movie production these days.  Good luck
           getting US lawmakers to recognize that.
        \_ My vote would be fore revoking the tax break on movie makers.
           \_ Art-- you do something, but you don't make much money out of
                    it and in fact you may die of hunger doing so.
              Game-- you work 70-80 hours a week on a crunchline set by
                     your asshole PM and all the young kids worked hard for
                     it and when the game finally publishes the game gets
                     bad reviews and 50% of the team members quit in 1.5 yrs
                     because they're fed-up and overworked and underpaid
                     and pissed off and swear to never work at a fucking game
                     company again. However SOMEONE is profitting from your
                     hard labor so it's most likely not considered "art"
              \_ Hello, the comparison here was film vs. game, not the esoteric
                 concept of capital-a Art vs. Game.
        \_ My vote would be for revoking the tax break on movie makers.
           \_ exactly -pp
2006/11/8-10 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45264 Activity:kinda low
11/8    What stops this from happening? JoeL decides he wants more than his
        seniority and chair position.  He wants to be majority leader and have
        final say about what goes into every senate bill or he'll caucus with
        the R and switch control back.
        \- because then some marginal R might switch to D in return for other
           privilages. when yoyu have this knife edge balance, this is a
           real problem. it is a problem in parliamentar systems, it was
           privilages. when you have this knife edge balance, this is a
           real problem. it is a problem in parliamentary systems, it was
           a problem when JEEM JEFFORDS switched ... it's also a generic
           economic problem [look for "hold out problem"].
           economic problem [look for "hold out problem"]. insitutions
           deal with or mitigate them in various way ... usually by
           evolving norms or agreeing to bylaws and such.
           \_ What marginal r?  Joe isn't a D.  He can do what he wants and
              go where he'll get the best deal.  That's how politics works.
              There are no bylaws or agreements in place to stop this.
              [hey thanks whoever over wrote this, please dont]
        \_ i hate JoeL mostly because he torpedoed the GAAP and other
           financial reforms right after Enron. sigh...
           \_ He was also one of the leaders of "OMG violent video games! Won't
              someone please THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
              \_ I lost respect for Hillary over that, too.  Not just because
                 it's knee-jerk and reactionary, but because it shows they
                 aren't in touch with modern America... who plays video games..
                 aren't in touch with modern America... who play video games..
                 as ADULTS.
                 \_ Not too many people over 30 are playing games as
                    adults. I know a few, but they are freaks. This is
                    definitely not the norm for 'modern America'.
                    \_ Average gamer age is over 30 last I heard.
                       \_ I read something a while ago that "average gamer
                          age" is skewed by all the Madden/whatever sports
                          game players, who don't consider themselves
                          "gamers".  I mean, it's just sports, right?  -John
                       \_ What defines a 'gamer'? If I play Playstation
                          5x per year does that make me a 'gamer'?
                          \_ Playing video games.
                             \_ Yes, but how often? If I play once per
                                year am I a gamer? That's about how much
                                I play. I don't consider myself a gamer
                                based on that.
                                \_ No, no - you're a gamer you freakin'
                                   cheese-eating, non-wife-screwing, slacker,
                                   kids-ignoring, Everquest-playing zombie!
                                   MOTD told you so!
                    \_ a) how'd you pick "over 30".. why not "over 18"?
                       b) there's this (very, very wrong) mentality that only
                          kids play video games.  it's like saying "let's put
                          restrictions on the (book) publishing industry because
                          restrictions on the (book) publishing industry b/c
                          lots of kids read books"
                          \_ It's not that adult should not play games, it's
                             that adults generally don't have the time.
                             Those who make the time are generally
                             shirking responsibilities. All of the wives
                             of gamers I know are none too happy about it,
                             except for the couple of wives who play, too.
                             Is it worth getting a divorce over? Do you
                             want to miss playing with your kids because
                             your Everquest pals are going on a quest?
                             Whenever I play games I feel like I am
                             wasting my time. Sure, I waste time in Vegas
                             once per year, too - and that's about how
                             often I play video games.
                             often I play video games. I feel the same way
                             about, say, people who watch too much TV. If
                             you are spending more than a couple hours per
                             week playing games/watching TV/whatever then
                             you are not a very productive adult. There
                             does come a time to 'grow up'. Go fuck your
                             wife for that hour and forget the game.
                             Believe it or not, some people have issues
                             with that.
                             \_ I know plenty of married gamers whose spouses
                                don't game but don't have a problem with it.
                                It's a question of how much you do it.  Being
                                a gamer doesn't mean you are a terminal case
                                who makes games your first priority.
                             \_ You're all missing the point.  The point is
                                that "gamers" are not a voting block.  Whether
                                they're 19, 30 or 50, they'll vote based on
                                taxes, war, religion, social policy or whatever
                                just like everyone else--whereas the moms of
                                underage gamers can easily be swayed by stupid
                                fear campaigns.  So you can win votes from
                                soccer moms who are known to vote in large
                                numbers and to be willing to vote for either
                                party by demonizing video games, but in spite
                                of all their bitching on slashdot or motd,
                                the "gamer vote" doesn't matter.  How old the
                                gamers are is completely beside the point.
2006/11/7-8 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45214 Activity:nil
11/7    Next-gen console predictions anyone?  I'll start:
        PS3s sells out instantly, eBay for around $8-900, remain out of stock
        through christmas then just as supply is kicking in, they run out
        of people willing to spend $600 on a console.  Wii will sell out
        initially, but resupply will just barely keep up with demand.
        \_ You do realize that there are almost exactly as many ps3s
           available as there were xbox 360s last year.  I'm amused how
           the 360 gotgood press about  what a successful launch they
           had while the ps3 is getting dumped on.  --buying a wii
           \_ I don't recall the 360 launch being called successful...
           \_ According to this, 360 had 1mil consoles at launch i nthe US.
              That's more than twice the number of PS3s.
        \_ How about ps sells out upon release and are 2,000 on ebay the
           moment sellers get the machines (in fact thats what they are
           already).  Since Wii is sooo much cheaper it will probably sell
           many more units.  $600 is just too much.
           \_ That's basically what he said.  The PS3 is having huge
              manufacturing issues, and there will only be at most 500,000
              available at launch, worldwide.  The Wii is easy to
              manufacture, so Nintendo is planning to have over 1 million
              just in North America.
        \_ I'll buy one for $8
        \_ My take: first batch sells out but sane people aren't willing to
           spend 8 gajillion dollars on a console when the competition costs
           1/2 to 1/3rd as much and the second batch sits on shelves for a
           month followed by drastically reduced prices leading to sony
           rethinking their entire home entertainment strategy and possibly
           leaving the console market.
           \_ My take: you are wrong
2006/11/1-2 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45080 Activity:nil
11/1    Any Nintendo DS owners out there?  Any must own games for it?
        \_ the doctor game and the lawyer game
        \_ I got one but I haven't played it in a long time. I thought
           the New Super Mario game was pretty good, and the Castlevania
           one. I was playing Brain Age for a while; it includes sudoku
           puzzles. I haven't kept up with it. Advance Wars and Mario
           Kart are pretty good.
        \_ I really like Kirby's Canvas Curse, but YMMV.
        \_ Bomberman!  you need one cart for 8 players!  it rules!
           also Mario is good, which has a mini-game multiplayer and
           sort of a duel multiplayer.  Mario Kart is good too.  -brain
2006/10/31-11/2 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:45059 Activity:nil
10/31   Pretty interesting article in the New Yorker about the guy
        who invented SimCity and The Sims: - danh
        \_ That was interesting. Thanks for the link!
        \_ I have this lurking suspicion that Spore will bomb.  (Well, sell
           moderately well, but barely make back it's development costs.)
2006/10/24-26 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44942 Activity:nil
10/24   oski crowd surfing from the game:
2006/10/23-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44928 Activity:nil
10/23   Game review:
2006/10/22-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44909 Activity:low
10/22   GT HD for PS3 looks crazy: (
        \_ Gosh I wish I could enjoy new toys like PS3 but I need to
           pay my mortgage, property tax, and countless trips to Home Depot
        \_ Looks like any racing game pretty much? No new actual features?
           \_ I haven't seen a racing game that look as good as GT HD.
              \_ The Xbox 360 ones look pretty similar to me. It's hard
                 to tell from a lowres youtube. But still no damage
                 modeling for example? Next gen should be about more than
2006/10/20-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44893 Activity:nil
10/20   I have a free extra ticket to the cal game tomorrow in the young
        alum if you want it
2006/10/16-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44841 Activity:nil
10/16   New PS2 game Bully lets players gain health by kissing boysrnie
        \_ if i had 1 hp.. i might consider it.. but i'd be dead for sure
2006/10/8-10 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:44724 Activity:nil
10/8    Basically, you all wish you were South Korean:
        "Frantic, piercing, the shrieks echoed down the corridors from one
        corner of the vast underground complex. There hundreds of young people,
        mostly women and girls, waved signs and sang slogans as they swirled
        in the glare of klieg lights. It was the kind of fan frenzy that
        anywhere else would be reserved for rockers or movie legends... In fact
        the objects of the throng's adoration were a dozen of the nation's
        most famous athletes... These were professional video gamers, idolized
        for their mastery of the science-fiction strategy game StarCraft."
        \_ In Korea, there are several television channels devoted solely to
           televising matches between video gamers on games like StarCraft.
           I guess that sure beats having several television channels devoted
           to home shopping of crappy, useless household items, as we do here
           in America.
2006/10/5-7 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44700 Activity:nil
        Don't get overhyped on PS3 and Wii.  CNET reporter says that in his
        informal poll, 3 out of 6 people he knew who got an early Xbox 360
        had their hardware eventually fail.  The warranty is only 90 days,
        although after enough bad press MS is paying for all repairs for
        machines built before 2006.
        \_ People trying v.1 are brave and stupid. Like the people who tried
           Win95 v1, Win98 v1, and MacBook Pro v1.
                \_ Or Microsoft bloodstream beta, once medical nanobots
                   become reality.
        \_ So don't buy a ps3 or a wii cause microsoft fucked up big time?
           Isn't that a bit backwards?
           \_ it all depends on what 'overhyped' means
2006/10/4-6 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44665 Activity:nil
10/4, you're killing me here. How hard can it be to display a
        page with the results of the most recent playoff games by division
        along with a running tally of who's ahead of whom? The World Cup
        website was able to keep track of a hell of lot more teams playing a
        hell of a lot more games. Why is it so hard for the MLB and ESPN to
        display the results from the playoffs for 8 bloody teams?
        \_ Answering myself: not hard at all. Yahoo to the rescue:
           Fie on you, ESPN.
2006/9/26-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44544 Activity:nil 88%like:44536
9/26    Double Agent Trailer: (
        \_ Wait, am I supposed to want to play this now? 'Cos I mostly just
           feel icky and powerless.
           \_ The game is supposed to be less linear, allowing you to choose
              what to do and different consequences result.
           \_ I cannot recall the last time that a video game presented me w/
              a moral dilemma of this nature. Any video game that forces one
              confront this type of problem seems interesting to me.
2006/9/26 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44536 Activity:low 88%like:44544
9/26    Double Agent Trailer:
        \_ Wait, am I supposed to want to play this now? 'Cos I mostly just
           feel icky and powerless.
           \_ The game is supposed to be less linear, allowing you to choose
              what to do and different consequences result.
           \_ I cannot recall the last time that a video game presented me w/
              a moral dilemma of this nature. Any video game that forces one
              confront this type of problem seems interesting to me.
2006/9/23-26 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44510 Activity:nil 76%like:44509
9/23    PS3 Gran Turismo HD Concept Trailer:
        \_ above link not working. IGN published these last night -shac
           \_ It's saved on the archiver:
           \_ fixed.
2006/9/23 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44509 Activity:moderate 76%like:44510
9/23    PS3 Gran Turismo HD Concept Trailer: (
        \_ above link not working. IGN published these last night -shac
2006/9/15-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44402 Activity:nil
9/15    Anyone know any good N64 games?
        \_ Yeah, there was this one I met in college.  Man, it was hot.
        \_ Golden Eye. My other favorites include Mario Cart and Cruising
2006/9/14-16 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44373 Activity:nil
9/13    IslamoGaming:
2006/9/12-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44357 Activity:kinda low
        for all u p0s3ur5, Space Rangers 2 is the best top-down space game
        (equipment upgrades, trading, missions) i've played.  plus, you can
        play 1 hour or 12 hour sessions, save, and come back later.  i got the
        full version via direct2drive, but I think there's a demo too.
        \_ Of course, the demo is only 1.2 GB to download.
        \_ Er....  I bought SR2 a few months ago.  I'm still on my first game.
           It has a lot of potential but there was no there there.  Some of
           the mini games are cool, some are a PITA.  The RTS mini game got
           so fast and brutal and the UI was so primitive it became
           unplayable even though RTS is my favorite genre.  The pizza making
           contest was amusing.  Space combat is irritating because the
           targets keep docking at local planets in mid combat.  Some of the
           alien-alien humor and backstory made me laugh, approaching the humor
           in some other classics like Star Control 2.  At the start of the
           game I suggest getting a trading type ship (forget weapons, you
           can't kill anything anyway), and get a long range engine and big
           fuel tank.  There is a *lot* of hopping from star to star and going
           A->B is much better than having to stop in C, D, and E on the way
           to refuel.
           \_ I don't play the RTS, and I make sure to let targets fly far
              away from any dock before I open up.  I stopped doing assassinatn
              missions anyway since killing pirate hulls piss off all Peleng
              planets.  i also agree that long-jump engines are the #1 priority
              along with trading drugs/luxuries (primarily peleng) in the early
              game.  Mid-game, courier with high courier bonus makes money
              faster.  SC2 is a classic, but I really enjoy SR2 ... better than
              Diablo w/o the sore-fingers and potion-chugging.
              faster.  SC2 is a classic, but I really enjoy SR2 ...
              \_ What are some good osX games?  Are there any free ones?
                 \_ When Steve says you're ready for good osX games you'll get
                    good osX games and not a minute sooner.
2006/8/21-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:44083 Activity:nil
8/21    Iain Banks next book is late b/c he played too much Civ:
        \_ I loved his references to Civ in Complicity. Mind you, he wanted
           Civ Advances like Pharmaceuticals and City Improvements like
           Addictive Substances to keep his cities in line....
           \_ I thought the newer Civ allowed for custom user mods?
              \_ Of course, and so did Civ2, but Banks is not a modder.
                 \_ Well there's that.  I haven't tried but I thought it was
                    supposed to be *really* easy to do.  shrug.
                    \_ Oh, you're absolutely right, it's easy to do, but I'm
                       here to tell you, modding is even more of a time-sink
                       than the actual game itself.
2006/7/28-30 [Recreation/Sports, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:43825 Activity:nil
7/27 (game)
2006/7/18-20 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:43711 Activity:nil
                             \_ "2 GRADU8"
                                \_ "2 BE GRADU8D"
                    \_ SUPURFLUOUZ "U"
        \_ Congrats on yo' accomplishment.  Rastus's point dat ya'
           should sharpen yo' English skills 'cuz it'll enhance
           yo' success in de real wo'ld is valid, dough.  Face it,
           plum as in de motd, de real wo'ld is full uh assholes
           who'll judge ya' on yo' language skills.  --PeterM
           \_ I assume that both of the above posts were generated using
              scripts.  Someone should write a script that converts
              real English to chicom troll English.
              \_ It's actually cheaper to just outsource this to a real
                 chicom troller.
                 \_ Didn't the Chinese govt. just hire something like 500
                    of these?  -John
              \_ Dat's 'esactly whut it is. Sheeit. Dere is some whole
                 bunch uh dese in /usr/games --(michener | /usr/games/jive)
2006/7/14-18 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:43674 Activity:nil
7/14    Valve announces they're finally going to release Team Fortress 2
2006/7/11-18 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:43635 Activity:nil
7/11    This is so cool:  Falling Sand game  -John
        \_ That kind of rocks!  Thanks for posting, John.    -mice
        \_ About 5 years behind the times there, John.
           \_ Get a life, loser.
           \_ And still beautiful. How many things on the web can boast that?
           \_ I'll take that as a compliment.  -John
2006/7/10-11 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:43608 Activity:kinda low
7/10    I am delighted Zinedine Zidane has miraculously won the
        BALL OF GOLD for the 2006 WC. ObIamNotMakingThisUp.
        [I think they do the gold ball tally before the match is over, so
        may have been decided before The Incident. Not sure why, since I
        didnt think they announced it immediately and there doesnt seem
        any reason not to wait 1-2 hrs. But I am still glad they didnt
        change the decision.] BTW, the ZZ header after the pass from Sagnol
        then blocked by Buffon was pretty awesome. --psb
        \_ You are wrong about the timing of the close of the vote tallying.
           Please leave the sports discussions to the experts.
           Thank you. --richard
        \_ I liked it.  You are stupid.  Keira Knightley is still flat.
        \_ I just read that the voting closed at midnight last night instead
           of at halftime, like they used to. ZZ's header was good, but the
           save was even better. My favorite goal was the German double-header.
           \- the block was fast and ultimately what mattered but i think
              the header was more impressive eventhough ultimately moot becase
              you might say it involved more "spatial degrees of freedom".
           \- BTW, here is a crappy video of another famous [and this time
              successful] ZZ 3 deg of freedom header goals:
              successful] ZZ 3 deg of freedom goals:
              if you have a better link, that would be great!
           \- Here is a decent ZZ highlight video with some good
              "3 degrees of freedom" shots:
              For those of you who dont follow futbol, this GK save by
              an associate of PABLO ESCOBAR is also pretty amazing:
              (but also a "what the fuck are you thinking" move ... it was
              in a friendly game tho ... he probably only attempted it because
              he know Escobar would not have him killed)
              in a friendly game tho ... he probably only attempted it
              because he knew PESCOBAR would not have him killed, unlike
2006/6/28-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:43516 Activity:nil
6/28    50 worst game names ever  -John
2006/6/23-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:43484 Activity:nil
6/23    So the US is out, but at least they scored one goal. Did ppl find
        the first 60 minutes of the Japan/Brazil game dull or interesting?
        I'm not a soccer otaku or anything, but I thought it was really
        entertaining until the 3rd Brazilian goal.
        What are the "games to watch" this weekend?
        \_ Both the Saturday games should be good.
           \- go to el farolito in the mission for the ARG-MEX game ...
              ask for wheat beer and keep asking people if they remember
              when USA beat MEX.
        \_ The first goal by Japan was surprising and interesting, but then
           the game devolved into Brazil beating Japan down, and that's just
           not entertaining no matter who you are.
                \_ Unless you're Brazil or a Brazil fan! 4-1 baby!
2006/6/21-26 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:43448 Activity:nil
6/20    Please to be speaking up now if you do not want me to post the World
        Cup results for Iran-Angola and Mexico-Portugal. Thank you.
        \_ Can we institute a 24 hour moratorium on discussion of the games?
           Feel free to talk about the England game or something. Weekend games
           are excepted.
           Feel free to talk about the England game or something.
           Weekends excepted.
           \_ Okay, no problem.
           \_ I won't mention the team names, but when two teams play to
              a scoreless draw and the articles about the game say things
              like how "fast and furious" the play was and how it was a
              classic I realize that even though I like (and played)
              soccer, the game kind of sucks. How does the rest of the
              world get so into a game where a scoreless draw is not only
              a possibility, but seen as a good sign of two team's abilities?
              \_ What article said that? Neither team particularly cared to
                 win that match since it didn't matter.
                 \_ Yes, meaningless games are what makes the World Cup
                    so great!
              \_ If two really good teams work really hard at scoring and
                 yet simultaneously prevent each other from scoring, how is
                 that not incredibly exciting? Frankly, I find this much more
                 exciting than the NBA, where the game comes down to who
                 messed up and didn't make the matching goal; it's almost as
                 bad as bowling.
                 \_ I can appreciate good defense. A no hitter in baseball
                    is exciting. What is not exciting is that it's a
                    scoreless *tie*. Please play until someone scores. Hockey
                    can get away with ties, because 1) at least they have
                    the concept of overtime, 2) the ties are rarely
                    scoreless, and 3) even if they are there are usually
                    more shots on goal that the goalkeeper actually has
                    to save. In soccer, one team scores a goal and then
                    plays defense the rest of the game. That's a
                    disservice to the phenomenal athletes.
                    \_ This is the first round. Each teams plays three matches
                       and scores match points based on how they do; the
                       teams with the most match points in their groups move
                       the second round. From the second round forward, the
                       rules change:
                       "If, after 90 minutes, a match ends in a draw, extra
                        time of twice 15 minutes will be played. If the score
                        is level after extra time, penalty kicks will be
                        taken to determine the winner (cf. Art. 17, par. 2,
                        and 3 of these Regulations)."
                       Now, if you want to argue over the fairness (or sanity)
                       of ending a match through PKs, brother, you're preaching
                       to the choir. If you really want to know why people
                       riot after WC matches, look no farther.
                       \_ I think they should decide it based on corner kick
                          differential over the course of the match.
                    \_ The first round is odd in the respect that it
                       actaully encourages scoreless ties.  In the
                       tiebrakeing process, a scoreless tie is worth more
                       that a scoring tie.
                       \_ How so?
2006/6/15-16 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/HW/Display] UID:43409 Activity:nil
6/15    A little old, but I'm sure you all want to know about ATI's new
        video card optimized for ASCII gaming.
        \_ I know it was satire, but you could do that with pixel shaders.
2006/6/2-4 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:43263 Activity:nil
6/2     Hmm.. I need a good cheap pickup puzzle game for the Gameboy/
        Gameboy Advance.  Anyone got any recommendations?
        \_ Pokemon puzzle challenge (previously known as Tetris Attack)
           Awesome game.
           \_ Thanks, I bought the game yesterday.  It's a great game, and
              perfect for what I wanted it for.  Thanks. -op
              \_ Trying to stimulate your brain? Or is this for your kid?
        \_ "pickup puzzle"? what's that?
           \_ I just mean a puzzle game I can pickup and play without
              having to invest a lot of time.  I realized last night that
              all my games are very involved.  You invest a lot of time
              and have to get to save points and such.  Makes it difficult
              to use when you're just waiting on something.
2006/5/30-31 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Reference/History/WW2] UID:43224 Activity:nil
5/30    Super Mario -- Communist Propaganda?  -John
        \_ Funniest shit I've ever seen on motd. Thanks so much John.
2006/5/26-31 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:43201 Activity:nil
5/26    Anyone have a link to the Meat Loaf / McPhee duet?
        \_ there is probably one on by now.
2006/5/8-10 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42987 Activity:nil
        4/10 Americans play video games.
2006/5/2-4 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42886 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
        Super Mario Bro on stage
2006/4/27-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42851 Activity:nil
 4/27   Nintendo announces offical name for Revolution. "Wii"
        Cue the piss jokes.
           \_ That's...uhm...bizarre.
2006/4/26-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Health/Women] UID:42829 Activity:nil
        Border Patrol Flash Game. Kill immigrants, drug smugglers, and
        pregnant Mexican women.
        \_ It must be so nice to live in such an intellectually truncated
        \_ I'm glad you can sit there in your nice Aeron chair, drinking
           lattes, without a care for your security, and believing that
           law enforcement of all kinds are just modern day Nazis.
           \_ I'm glad you can sit around in your Aeron chair, and live
              in fear that the terrorists really want your php coding ass
              while you don't have the balls for supporting nuking
              them first.
              \_ Your counter-flame has been classified as: weak.  Keep
                 trying, grasshopper.
              \_ I've always said nuke first and ask questions later.
                 I was saddened the day Bush, Sr. stopped W88 production.
2006/4/3-4 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:42640 Activity:nil
4/3     Michigan Video Game Law ruled unconstitutional:
2006/4/2-4 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42621 Activity:nil
4/2     Does anyone else remember this old ASCII DOS game, ZZT?  It turns
        out there's a whole cult built out of making new games with it's
        internal programming language ZZT-OOP.  Weird stuff
2006/3/29-30 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42510 Activity:low
3/29    Poll:  Most homoerotic arcade game (playble on MAME)
        Knuckle Bash: .
        I'm Sorry:
        Street Fighter I: .
        FINAL FIGHT: .
        \_ Maybe some of the wrestling games?  A lot of them are
           really terrible though.
2006/3/27-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42467 Activity:nil
3/27    I've learned of two good arcade games to play on MAME through the
        motd, "Gain Ground" and "Strike Force."  What other slightly obscure
        arcade games do motders like?
        GunForce - Awesome Contra Style shooter (GunForce 2 is good two, it's
                   a different style of shooter.)
        \_ MERCS, Ghouls N' Ghosts, Black Tiger, Magician Lord,
           Peter Packrat, NARC, Crystal Castles, Indiana Jones
           and the Temple Of Doom, Rampage, Sidearms, R-Type,
           Strider, Ninja Gaiden, Alien Syndrome, Altered Beast,
           Escape From The Planet Of The Robot Monsters,
           In The Hunt
           In The Hunt, Karnov
           I would play Forgotten Realms if there was an easy way to
           duplicate the 32 way (I think?) directional joystick.
        \_ 1943
        \_ Cabal, Hammerin' Harry
        \_ If you enjoy totally studly homoerotic games about wrestlers
           battling Jean-Claude Van-Damme vs giant BDSM leather daddies
           wearing gimp masks and knife wielding Frenchmen,
           Pit Fighter is your game!
           \_ ...and "Hammerin' Harry" isn't homoerotic?
                \_ You need to play Pit Fighter.  It's totally insane.
                   Buff dudes in their underwear beating the shit out
                   of each other.  Sometimes you get a "brutality bonus".
                   Maybe I can find a screen shot of "TOTALLY STUDLY."
                        \_ "Orientation: Horizontal"
          \_ Doesn't hold a candle to Knuckle Bash
        \_ Zombies Ate My Neighbors
        \_ Two Tigers (This game is weirdly addictive)
2006/3/23-25 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42402 Activity:high
3/23     Any one reccomend a mod chip installer for the ps2?
        \_ Well, if all you want to do is play your completely legitimate
           single backup copy of a game or imports, you will most likely
           be better served by a bootdisc.  While there are a couple odd
           exceptions that don't work with it, they are a minute minority.
           The office currently is using Swap Magic 3.6 to great effect.
           There are physical mods for your case (for both the regular and
           slim line) that make swapping the disc really easy.  All in all,
           considering the probability of borking your ps2 terribly or
           paying through the nose for a modchip and someone to install it,
           the bootdisc is the better deal.
        \_ If you have the old school ps2, you can backup your games to an
           IDE hard drive w/ the network adaptor, and play them using a
           memory card + PS1 game with buffer overflow trick --
           google for PS2 Independence exploit -- it's quite nice:
           no swapping, reduced loading times, etc...
           You will probably need to swap once, or know someone who can write
           arbitrary data to a memcard to get you started though.
                \_ I should have been more specific Iwant to modify
                a ps2 to play Japanese games. I know, for example, the ps1
                required a single mod chip that I got installed at a local
                shop that is no longer in business.
                    \_ Apparently hdloader (the program you boot with the
                       exploit trick) ignores region checks so it will
                       allow you to play most .jp games, no mods needed
                       BTW, a similar trick supposedly exists for XBOX, too.
                                \_ all of the hardware you have to buy online ?
2006/3/21-23 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42367 Activity:nil
3/21    I'm trying to remember the name of an arcade game they used to
        have in the UC arcade, I was hoping someone else might
        recognize/remember it.  It looked a little bit like defender,
        but had much more updated graphics - you could choose which
        planets to fly to (the planets varied significantly), where
        you had to save colonists from aliens, and collect weapons?
        (You had these marines that would hang from your ship, and
        drop down to pick up stuff).  Thanks!
        \_ Strike Force ?  -oj
           \_ That was it! Going to try it with the emulator shortly,
              thanks! -mds
           \_ I like the ad on that site:
              "Play Over 4,000 Classic Arcade Games for FREE... Only $99.95
               + S&H"
              "Play Over 4,000 Classic Arcade Games for FREE... Only $99.95+S&H"
              Ah, "Free".  Meaningless in advertising, meaningless in modern
2006/3/13-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42220 Activity:kinda low
3/13    Anyone have an idea where I could find high quality sounds of a
        tank being hit by an AT round and blowing up?  -John
        \_ extract from a movie/DVD/game?
           \_ Many movies/games might just use a generic explosion sound.
        \_ not free:
        \_ My roommate Mike is a sound artist/engineer.  I'll ask him and let
           you know.  He can almost definitely point you to a great non-free
           source, and may know of a good free one. -dans
           \_ That'd be awesome.  I'm helping a friend look around for
              various war-sounds; he's putting together sound packs for a free
              game mod (Forgotten Hope, pretty awesome.)  I dunno if these
              types of companies ever donate anything?  -John
              \_ What game, John? --erikred
                 \_ Ah, BF1942, gotcha. --erikred
                    \_ Forgotten Hope actually--nice historical accuracy mod
                       that's done nutso things with the EA engine.  -John
              \_ To my knowledge, they rarely make donations, but, in recent
                 years they moved from a model of buy this sound library with
                 hundreds of sounds for thousands of dollars, to a model where
                 you can buy just one sound for, say, five bucks. -dans
2006/3/12-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:42201 Activity:nil
3/12 (
        Geeks grow up.  ~ 200 L.A. residents in game of "Assassin / Killer".
        Obtain a card with your target's work and home locations, and photo,
        and attempt to soak them with water (water gun, balloon, hose, etc.),
        after which you take over their target.
        Not too good if you have a SO / kids, since it appears that your home
        is a valid place where you can be "killed".
2006/2/26-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:42012 Activity:nil
2/26    Worst Game Controllers of All Time:
        \_ The Atari 5200 controller is the #1 worst controller in my
           book.  The Xbox and Jaguar controllers don't even come close.
           Actually, I kinda like the Jag controller, but it should've had
           6 buttons.  The Intellivision controller isn't that bad either,
           bit of a hand cramper though. -jrleek
        \_ In "best controllers of all time" land, I liked the SNES controller.
        \_ Gotta agree with the xbox's controller being beyond bad.
2006/2/17-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:41906 Activity:nil
2/17    Is there a game review site this isn't basically a direct extension of
        the industry (a la gamespot and IGN) and aimed at an audience other
        than mouthbreathers?
        \_ is OLD MAN MURRAY still around?
           \_ wow.  last update was in jan 2002.  i totally forgot about that
              site after i graduated from college.
2006/2/16-17 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41890 Activity:low
2/16    A game I am developing is a finalist in the Independent Games
        Festival ( and I am looking for 1-2 people to
        come to the Game Developers Conference in mid-March to help
        demo the game.  The game is very interesting and cool, and you
        get a free pass to the conference in return.  Good opportunity
        for a student.  Email
        \_ jon, you such a handsome asian man! do you have a boyfriend?
           \_ Hmmm ... do you know who you are talking to?
              \_ I thought I was talking to jon kurada?
                 \- this is not the jon you're looking for. keep walking.
                 \_ I have many dopplegangers, Jon Blow is not one of them.
                    --Jon (@csua)
2006/2/16-17 [Politics, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41883 Activity:nil
2/15    You sunk my Imperial Star Destroyer!
2006/2/15-16 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:41876 Activity:nil
2/15    Seeing that the "What are your favorite old school computer games?"
        troll yields a lot more responses than the "What did you give/get
        for Valentine's Day?" troll really tells you a lot about sodans.
2006/2/14-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Security] UID:41841 Activity:moderate
2/14    Related to the gaming thread below.  What made you/inspired you to
        take CS?  Computer gaming as a kid?
        \_ Hott CS women.  I was obviously misled.
           \_ Isn't karen hot?
              \_ Note that the comment is plural.
              \_ If you're CS, yes.
        \_ I liked computers and liked the idea of controlling them.  I guess
           I got started with LOGO and a toy robot that could be given simple
           programs like "go forward, turn left, go forward, flash lights" etc.
        \_ When I was 7 years old I used a Heathkit computer that my uncle had
           bought.  Just seeing some of the retarded games on it got me
        \_ Anthro 193 survey form filled out by 200+ undergrads: all but a
           trivial number said "money" or "parents made me for money".
           \_ must have been during the boom years.  I liked CS because it
              was interesting.
              \_ Early 90s.  Definitely pre-boom.  It was a recession.
        \_ Writing really simple games in basic/pascal.
        \_ Writing really simple but cool graphics code on an old Atari.
           Pixels and sprites 4 life!
        \_ Writing machine code on Apple II with no assembler to read some
           hardware switches, and interfacing it with BASIC, was fun.
           \_ Fuckin' a.
           \_ Reminds me of when I wrote machine code to access the sectors of
              a disk directly so I could read the Ultima IV map off the disks.
              Then I remapped the character set of my dot-matrix printer to
              match the game.  The map was 256x256 squares.  Ah, those were the
              days of hand-assembled 6502.
              \_ Just goes to show that practical application is a powerful
                 motivator; I learned ResEdit just so's I screw around with
                 hex code in Prince of Persia.
              \_ We made our own maps on Ultima IV & III once we learned what
                 all the codes stood for.
        \_ My mom was a ai researcher.
2006/2/14-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41836 Activity:nil
        "Yes, Colleen and Candy, Colleen being the Atari 800 and Candy the 400
        were 2 well endowed female employees. In fact almost all the original
        hardware projects were named after well endowed Atari female
        employees. The Atari 2600 was Stella, the Atari 3600 (never came out,
        a horrible 10-bit processor design) was Sylvia and the Atari 5200 was
        PAM, ..."
        How many original hardware projects did Atari have?  Damn, it must have
        been a very pleasant place to work!  I was born too late, too bad.
        \_ The background art in the Atari games Xenophobe and
           Rampage feature very busty females.
           \_ what video game art doesn't feature busty females??
              \_ Try the Castro district in SF.
                 \_ HAHAHAH! FAG JOKES ARE FUNNY!
                    \_ Actually, I've noticed that a lot of the video game
                        art featuring MEN often feature ludicriously oversized
                        codpieces ... Either that's where sci fi soldiers
                        store a second change of clothes or ...
                        \_ Sci-fi soldiers are evolutionally superior to--
                        \_ Those are actually female soldiers on steroid
                           wearing Maxi pads.
        \_ More importantly, no apparent shortage of busty females
           working there.
2006/2/13-20 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41824 Activity:moderate
2/13    What are your favorite old school computer games?
        \_ Recently rediscovered Pathways into Darkness
           \_ The skill levels for weapons was a cool innovation for a fps.
        \_ Jumpman Jr.
        \_ The Pawn (C64 - 1985?), Conan (various 1986?)
        \_ The Prawn (C64 - 1985?), Conan (various 1986?)
           Impossible Mission (C64 - 1986?)
           Stay a while. Stay forever!!!!!!!!!!!!
           Pool Of Radiance.
           \_ Conan and Bruce Lee! Also, Black Magic for the Apple ][.
        \_ Leisure Suite Larry 1-3 (1986?), King's Quest 1-6 (1983-9?),
           Police Quest (lame lame lame), Manhunter (Bad bad bad),
           Space Quest 1-4. Faces/Facetris (1990?), Starcon (1991?),
           Montezuma's Revenge (1985?), EA's One-on-One (Larry vs Erving
           in the early 80s), Music Construction Set (ok it's not a game
           but it was like, WOW in the early 80s), Lemmings (1990s?),
           Ancient Art of War (loved archers), Ancient Art of War at Sea,
           Up-and-Down (1983?), Sopwith (cute little game).
        \_ Ultimate Wizard for C64 (1989 or so?)
           Burger Hut Of Apshai (see above)
           Jumpman Jr. (see above)
           Hardhat Mack (see above)
           Gemstone Warrior (apple IIe 1986 I think)
           Miner 2049'er (really really old Atari 800 game)
           Odyssey (apple IIe, near the epoch)
           \_ Is Odyssey the game where you explored an island building
              an army? I eventually bought some ships but had no clue
              what to do after that.
           \_ Geez look 'em up yourself if you care so much.  Almost all
              of these are from the mid 80's.  I doubt most people here
              really remember exactly what year a game came out.
        \_ Apple ][: Lemonade, Taipan, Lode Runner, Archon, Adv. Const. Set
           Macintosh: Shufflepuck Cafe, Robosport. On this topic, anyone know
           how to run b/w or 16 color games on OS X?
           \_ try vMac or Basilisk II:
        \_ i am surprised that no one mentioned:
           "Captain Goodnight"
           \_ having to walk underneath the grenade arc of lots of robots
              and then restarting from the beginning of the level was not fun
           "Rescue Raiders"
        \_ Lode Runner.  I played on Apple II plus.
           \_ I 2nd that
           \_ heh, yeah -- that was pretty fun.   (c64, baby)      -mice
           \_ Yah, that was pretty fun.   (c64, baby)      -mice
           \_ how many levels did you finish?
                \_ I made like over 100+ levels and I remember getting to at
                   least level 64 -- !ppp
              \_ Less than 10.  I didn't play that much computer game, but
                 Lode Runner is one of my favorites when I did play.
           \_ This was one of the best games on my Mac. I also remember
              the PowerPC version that was in color w/ nice backgrounds.
              Truly classic game.
        \_ Ultima III -- ended up editing the disk and removing the snake
           because I couldn't find the right dungeon to get the final mark.
           Of course right after I defeated Exodus I found the dungeon.
           Commodore 64.
           Also MULE on the commodore and Atari
        \_ Wizardry
        \_ anyone remember Archon?
           \_ Heh, yeah -- Archon rocked.  The sequel wasn't nearly as
              fun.          -mice
           \_ Got a little boring playing the computer after I figured out how
              to defeat it 100% of the time in 5 moves (I think it was:
              Manticore to top disk thing, Manticore to bottom, sword guy to
              Center, Teleport shapeshifter on top of character next to wizard/
              sorceress, defeat wizard/sorceress)
              \_ Dude, at that point you had to start making personal
                 challenges.  When I won the game with only one soldier guy
                 was when I knew the game was getting old.
                 \_ I once defeated the sorceress with a knight in
                    "Archon Ultra" (a new PC version that came out a while ago)
                    My friend who was playing against me stormed off pissed
                    and we never played that game again.
        \_ Sword of Aragon
        \_ Lady Tut on Apple II Plus.
        \_ Lady Tut on Apple II Plus.  I especially like that the notes in its
           theme song somehow don't sound like square waves when it's played on
           the Apple speaker.  How did they do that?
        \_ Fort Apocolypse on the Atari 800
        \_ Temple of Apshai and the sequels
        \_ Paratrooper, robotron, spacewar (last was freeware on X).
        \_ Mail Order Monsters, Bard's Tale I-III, can't forget Might and
           Magic I where nothing really made any sense.          -mice
        \_ Does netrek count?  -tom
        \_ Does netrek count?  (1986) -tom
           \_ yes, but why didn't they have PC or Mac clients?
              \_ At the time, there were very few PCs or Macs on the Internet,
                 and the network stacks weren't up to the task.  The first
                 viable Windows client appeared in the early 90s.  -tom
        \_ CGA SpaceWar
        \_ Bilestoad.
        \_ King's Quest
           \_ I completed this.
        \_ Summer/Winter/California Games from Epyx
        \_ Ancient Art of War
        \_ Ancient Art of War (1984)
           \_ you too?  Did you create your own scenarios?
                What formation did you typically use?  Hit and run with
                \_ Hit and run with archers was the "money play".  Archers
                   in a line at the back...
                \_ I don't recall creating my own scenarios.  yes, hit
                   and run with archers wins the game.
        \_ Can someone put together a chronology of when the above games
           first appeared?
           \_ That's hard.  Many games have different versions (arcade, Atari
              console, C64, Apple II, ...) that appeared in different times.
           \_ I'm guessing you are a recent grad or an undergrad?
        \_ Wasteland
           \_ Oh, man -- that brings back memories.  I think wasteland is still
              in my top 10 favorites.     -mice
           \_ I so want to replay wasteland to remember all the plot points.
              But I so can't get over the interface these days.  -sax
           \_ I only played Wasteland after I'd already played Fallout. After
              getting into the old-game mentality it was good, but I enjoyed
              the Fallouts more.
        \_ No infocom games on this list??
           \_ With the exception of H2G2, infocom was more endured than
        \_ NFL Challenge, Scorched Earth
           \_ NFL Challenge was good, but there was a play on defense that
              worked well.
        \_ Sopwith / Red Baron, and you can still get it for free!
        \_ Sopwith (1984)/ Red Baron, and you can still get it for free!
        \_ Railroad tycoon, colonization, civilization, anything by Sid Meirs
        \_ asteroids
        \_ Nethack
        \_ Lemmings
           \_ on the Amiga -- that was great. I liked Qix a and
              Boulderdash a lot too (C64).
        \_ Dark Castle!  And Battletech, for the Infocom guy.   -John
        \_ AutoDuel
        \_ AutoDuel. Secret of Monkey Island. Montezuma's Revenge.
           Donkey Kong. Choplifter. Bomberman.
           Donkey Kong. Choplifter. Bomberman. bz.
           Donkey Kong. Choplifter. Bomberman. bz. Chuck Yeager's Air
           \_ AutoDuel was cool, but the laser deaths were l4m3.
        \_ M.U.L.E. Really though, I think I spent more time playing coin-op
           games.  I think I pissed away more lunch money on Xevious than
           anything else. Also, I spent a lot of time typing in code from
           various magazines and books, like CIA Agent.  -gabriel
        \_ Aztec, Taipan, Chivalry (written in PASCAL!)
        \_ Empire on the Vaxen.
        \_ Empire on the Vax. (Ordered by time: hunt, empire, dtrek, nettrek)
        \_ Empire
        \_ Simcity
        \_ Neuromancer and Nine Princes in Amber
        \_ Does anyone here remember a series of text-based games for the
           TRS-80, including Archipelago and some Dracula-like game? I'd
           love to reconnect with those.
           \_ Dungeons of Daggorath on the TRS-80 CoCo.
           \_ Found them! Located in the file here:
        \_ Double Dragon, Yie-Ar Kung Fu, Street Fighter 2, Burgertime,
           Super Dodge Ball, Bards Tale(s), Ultima (3-6)
           \_ *sigh*  I miss the days when ECA made good games.    -mice
        \_ burgertime, nethack, lode runner, phantasie iii, lemmings
        \_ Lemonade Stand. Now available for MacOS X:
2006/2/12-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Recreation/Sports] UID:41806 Activity:nil
2/12    So, does anyone else here play SDL sopwith?  That game is awesome,
        and I've always wanted to try the network mode.  (For, like 15
        years) -jrleek
        \_ I want to play BZFLAG.
           \_ Maybe we should set up a CSUA BZFLAG server...
              \_ If you want.  I don't think it's worth it.  There are
                 lots and lots of public BZFLAG servers out there.
                 apt-get install bzflag
                 if you're a debian nerd.
2006/2/7-9 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41741 Activity:nil
2/7     Does anyone know from first-hand experience whether a PS1
        Gameshark (or Gameshark lite) works on PS2 for PS1 games?
        I tried to google for it but couldn't find any conclusive
        answers--everyone seems to be saying different things.
2006/1/7-9 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41282 Activity:nil
1/6     Very cool Open Source Turn-Based Strategy game. Supports online multiplayer.
        \_ VERY cool, thanks for the link!  Blew Saturday playing it...
2006/1/5-9 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports, Recreation/Media] UID:41253 Activity:nil
1/5     I just found out about the underground flash phenomenon.   Here's
        a few of my favs, skewed to video game heads:
        SFII vs MK3:
        Scorpion Addicted to Mortal Kombat:
        Star Wars Gangsta Rap:
        \_ welcome to the 21st century
2005/12/31-2006/1/4 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:41185 Activity:nil
12/30   Oh man, a new Gamepark, and it looks AWESOME.
        \_ Doesn't look too different from a Tapwave Zodiac.  I have a
           Zodiac, and I have to say, the thumb joystick thing kind of
           sucks for NES/SNES games.  I'd prefer a normal directional pad.
           \_ I've never seen the Zodiac before.  Interesting.  Looks like
              you can get it new for about $200 now that the company has
              abandoned it.  I can see how the analog could suck for
              emulation though.
2005/12/13-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Interesting] UID:41008 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
        \_ keywords: fun flash game samorost samrost samrost2
2005/12/9-11 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Humor] UID:40934 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
12/9    New game teaches female sexual gratification: -John
2005/12/5-7 [Recreation/Humor, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:40858 Activity:low Cat_by:auto
12/5    The Japanese game to end all Japanese games.
        \_ Ew. I want the purity of my eyes back, please.
        \_ video game showing panty. Definitely NOT work safe.
        \_ That is awesome.
        \_ How does one capture output from a game to a .wmv file?  Thanks.
           \_ TV capture card.
2005/12/2-5 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:40818 Activity:nil
12/2    Does anyone remember the 80s sega system 24 arcade
        game Gain Ground?  I am not talking about the sega genesis version.
        Is there an unencrypted ROM for it floating around?  Does
        it work with MAME? - danh
        \_ A quick google says it works with MAME (as of 0.96).  If sure
           you can figure out how to get a MAME rom.
2005/11/25-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Humor] UID:40734 Activity:moderate Cat_by:auto
11/25   Girlfriends Against Video Games:
        \_ A girlfriend is not a substitute for a playstation!
           \_ for some dead or alive beach volleyball in hd could be
            \_ What it hooks up to a fleshlight now?
        \_ and Boyfriends Against Girlfriends Against Video Games!
2005/11/21-23 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:40680 Activity:nil
11/21   Basically the only reason I care about the Xbox360 at all: it's
        music visualizer was written by Jeff Minter.  Awesome.
2005/11/21 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:40674 Activity:high
11/21   No talk about the Big Game?
        \_ Ummm... look below?
2005/11/19-23 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:40657 Activity:low
11/19   Steve Levy >> Joe Ayoob
        Its funny how Tedford put him in for like two plays at the very end of
        the game (when we were up by 24 points with like 30 seconds to go).
        \_ Levy really didn't throw very well, and the offense didn't
           move very well until the game was in hand.  I'll give him
           kudos for winning his first collegiate start, but I haven't
           seen anything to indicate he's better than Ayoob.  (Ayoob has
           six wins).  -tom
           \_ Levy just doesn't have the brain freeze that Ayoob does.
              Ayoob kills the team with mistakes.
              \_ Levy fumbled deep in our own end with the score 6-3.
                 He also threw an interception when we were in field goal
                 range when the score was 13-3.  -tom
                 \_ And yet still made far fewer mistakes than Ayoob has
                    been making.
                    \_ His mistakes didn't happen to cost us, playing against
                       a weak team.  Ayoob had five victories in a row over
                       weak teams.  I don't think Ayoob is great, but Levy
                       is not a real QB, and if we go into a bowl game with
                       him at QB, any decent defense will put a spy on him
                       and he will be in trouble.  -tom
                       \_ You are right that Levy is not a 'real QB'. I
                          think he sucks. Yet, I'd still rather have him
                          out there over Ayoob. Only one turnover in the
                          entire game. Levy tries to do less than Ayoob
                          and that helps the team more.
                          \_ Ayoob has had one or fewer turnovers five times
                             this year.   -tom
                             \_ And 7 INTs in 2 games, which sent him to
                                the bench.
                                \_ He threw four INTs in the USC game.  One
                                   was when he and the receiver didn't
                                   agree on the route (if Jackson had turned
                                   the route up, it would not have been
                                   intercepted).  One hit the receiver in
                                   both hands, but went through his hands.
                                   One was a desperation play at the end
                                   of the half, and the other was on fourth
                                   down.  It's not clear that *any* of them
                                   constituted a mistake on Ayoob's part. -tom
                                   \_ You've got to be kidding me. Let me
                                      guess: Ayoob is your cousin or something.
                                      \_ let me guess; you don't understand
                                         the difference between a decision
                                         and a result.  -tom
                                         \_ Ayoob's decision-making is terrible.
                                            \_ It's at least as good as Levy's.
                                                \_ Based on what?
                                                   \_ Based on knowing a lot
                                                      about football, having
                                                      season tickets, and
                                                      watching the two of
                                                      them all year.  -tom
                                                      \_ If you're defending
                                                         Ayoob then I have
                                                         to question your
                                                         credentials as
                                                         someone who 'knows a
                                                         lot about football'.
                                                         His play is
                                                         inexcusably terrible.
                                                         \_ His play has not
                                                            been good, but he
                                                            won six games.
                                                            Levy against
                                                            Stanford never
                                                            went past his
                                                            first read, and
                                                            had serious happy
                                                            feet in the second
                                                            half.  8 of his
                                                            10 completions
                                                            were dumpoffs or
                                                            short outs, and
                                                            he telegraphed
                                                            every pass.  Even
                                                            the TD pass to
                                                            Jackson was badly
                                                            although I wouldn't
                                                            exactly call that
                                                            a mistake since
                                                            it was a good
                                                            matchup for us
                                                            in one on one
                                                            coverage.  -tom
                                   \_ What about the fumble in the USC game?
                                      And don't even get me started on the
                                      OSU game. He should have been pulled
                                      after that fiasco.
2005/11/18-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Health, Politics] UID:40648 Activity:nil
11/18   To whoever posted here, you rule.  -John
        \_ Agreed. What's your handle and where are you? I wanna come kill you.
        \_ The game sucks!  I became a zombie already.
           \_ Who else plays this?  Is there a limit to how much you can carry?
              Is there any point keeping low value (0 value?) things like
              multiple wirecutters?
2005/11/17-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:40629 Activity:nil
11/17   Is there any on-line store that sells Big Game apparel which support
        Cal?  I only found a Big Game 'Ticket' tee which doesn't suppport
        either side.
2005/11/12-13 [Recreation/Sports, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:40556 Activity:high
11/11   So, what's the spread on the USC vs. Cal game today, and how much will
        we satisfy it by?
        \_ Spread was 19 and USC will cover easily.
           \_ yay!
2005/11/7-8 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Academia/StanfUrd] UID:40467 Activity:nil
11/6    So, how bad are we going to get pummeled by SC?
        Their first two games this season were 63-17 and 70-17.
        \_ If you look at scores vs. similar opponents, probably about
           42-21 or so. But college football has enough luck in it,
           that if our QB gets his shit together on those long throws
           and actually hits people instead of overthrowing them and
           we get a few lucky breaks, like the turnovers early that
           USC gave Arizona and Oregon, we could actually beat them.
           Notice how USC always scores a ton of points at the end?
           That is because of superiour conditioning. They won't
           do that to us, we are the same kind of team.
           "That's why they play the games."
           \_ Can we at least not lose as badly as the 'furd?
              That was 51-21, 30 points ... not too hard, right?
              \_ God I hope so. At least have it be respectable for 3 qtrs.
2005/11/5-8 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:40452 Activity:nil
11/4    Funny game titles:  -John
2005/11/4-8 [Recreation/Sports, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:40444 Activity:nil
11/4    F.E.A.R. review: boring, repetitve set design (on par with Halo's
        "Library" level) throughout the whole game.  Paper-thin story which is
        easily guessed in the first few minutes of the game.  Doom3 with lights
        on at best (but with less variation in the baddies).  Avoid it.
        \_ I completed it and have fond memories.  It's true the cubicle levels
           are ultra-dull.
        \_ I haven't tried the full-version, but deathmatch is pretty fun,
           and free.
2005/10/23-24 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/Rants] UID:40235 Activity:moderate
10/23   I was reading a Chinese newspaper, and according to an article in
        it, they now have 8000 people in rural villages in China working
        to make virtual gold for World of Warcraft.  The job for these
        villagers in China is to play the game and do simple repetitive
        tasks to earn gold.  The virtual gold is then sold to US players.
        The money they make doing this is better than what they get from
        farming.  The article also says that these people are causing
        severe inflation in the WofW world, since what they do is like
        printing money.  Because of the inflation, they are making less
        than before but it is still very profitable.  It also quoted an
        estimate that says China will make 100 million US dollars from this.
        One guy doing this business says he makes US$10000 per month.
        \_ Could you please post the url, or was this a physical paper?
           \_ this is from the "weekly magazine" that comes with today's
              (Sunday) copy of World Daily, a US newspaper owned by one
              of 2 major newspapers of Taiwan.
              (Sunday) copy of World Daily (US subsidiary of one of
              2 major newspapers of Taiwan) which I get for free when
              I buy $20 worth of groceries.
              2 major newspapers of Taiwan).
        \_ The Economist had some mention of this, but nothing on this scale.
        \_ OMG WTF when did the world turn into a Neil Stephenson novel?!?!1!!
        \_ Either PC Gamer or Computer Gaming World had an article about this
           it's big business in asia, boiler rooms full of people running
           scripts over and over again and selling the stuff.  My question
           always is: who are all these clowns spending real $$$ for this
           \_ You can spend 6 hours of time on tedious gold gathering
           \_ You can spend 12 hours of time on tedious gold gathering
              activities, or you can spend 2 bucks for the gold, and
              head on off to exciting adventures with your buddies.
        \_ what I dont understand is most of the stuff truly worth getting
           in world of warcraft you can't buy from other players and have
           to go and get yourself.  There's not a lot of worthwhile stuff
           that is buyable with gold alone.  So who are these farmers'
           customers and what the heck are they buying? -Avid WoW player
           \_ I only played for a month and got bored and cancelled.  If the
              good stuff can't be bought with gold, then why is the person
              above talking about spending 6 hours gathering it?  What use
              does it have?  I never got above level 20 so I have no idea
              about the high level game but I never found myself starving for
              cash.  I used the junk that dropped, sometimes nabbed something
              cheap at the auction house, bought some trivial supplies a few
              times, but never felt that "in only I had another 100,000 gold
              I'd be set, I should farm it for 6 hours or spend real money
              buying it".  I just played the game, such as it was.
              \_ I don't play, but don't you have to buy your "mount" with
                 gold? And maybe skills and stuff?
                 \_ the 'mount' and 'epic mount' are really the only major
                    thing you can get with gold alone.  The basic mount is
                    100g, and usually you have enough gold for that accumulated
                    by the time you are high enough level to use it.  The 'epic'
                    mount, at 1000g, certainly would take extensive farming. but
                    it is a one-time purchase, and not that great anyway.
                    I still dont see a $100M market out of gold just for mounts.
                    And skills aren't that significant an expense either, and
                    also, one-time purchase per character.
        \_ I read a short story where rival "farming" gangs hired players
           to knock off the others' farmers plus the added twist where some
           person was trying to unionize them. Cute bit of fluff.
           \_ I ran across an article that describes how these "sweatshop"
              workers manage to smuggle some of the gold from their bosses
              to make profit on the side.
2005/10/19-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:40181 Activity:moderate
10/19   At what age did you start losing interest in console or PC games?
        \_ Not yet (26).
        \_ Try 69 years:
        \_ Woah! Your sneaky, back-handed method of polling motd ages has
           succeeded where all other attempts have failed.  Clever.
        \_ Not yet (26).  I play a lot less than I used to, though.  Like
           the poster below, I enjoy simple, old games (but for my generation,
           that means the original Super Mario and Mega Man).
        \_ ~22 (now 35), and that's because the games became too complex.  You
           have to remember the 10 buttons on the joystick and how to make
           20 moves and choose among 30 weapons.  I'd rather play something
           simple like the original Space Invaders and Pac Man.
           \_ How about Serious Sam co-op?
              \_ Or Katamari Damacy?  No buttons at all.
              \_ Never heard of it.  Forgive my ignorance.
                 \_ Frantic FPS.  Sort of like Doom on caffeine & speed.
        \_ Not yet (31).  Speaking of which, F.E.A.R. was released today:
           "this game is basically gun-porn and you'll experience multiple
           gun-gasms playing it ..."
        \_ I am still interested but haven't played in 3 years because
        \_ I am still interested but haven't played for 3 years because
           (1) don't have time, (2) getting lazy with going through the
           learning curve for the typical real time strategy games I
           like to play.  Last game played was AOE, and I can do some
           serious arse kicking. (33)
        \_ Still going @ 34 ... But my playing is very sporadic now I
           go for months without playing anything at all.
           \_ About the same, but only 30.  Every now and then I check the
              video game news and see that some game that I know something
              about came out, buy it, play for a while, and then I let the
              old ps2 collect dust for a few more months.  The less I play,
              the less games I pay attention to, the less that happens.
              It's not so much that I don't enjoy playing games, it's just
              that it takes a lot of time not only to play, but also to keep
              up with all the news and happenings.  If you don't keep up
              you just don't buy all that much.
                \_ My game playing peaked at around age 24 or so after an
                   earlier peak @ Berkeley
        \_ My desire to play video games has been pretty steadily
           decreasing since I was 20 or so.  I like them, but I usually
           have more important/funner things to do.  I pretty much stick
           with pre-PSX stuff these days.
        \_ I was a great fan of Civ III type turn based strategy games
           until I was about 32, then gradually lost interest in them.
           Have not played any in about five years now.
           like to play. (33).
        \_ 32, still play a lot of WWII FPS (mainly Forgotten Hope) online.
           Rarely interested in single-player; only when the plotline and
           gameplay is outstanding.  -John
        \_ late-30's and still play tons of PC games.  Mostly MMO now a days
           and a few console games.
        \_ 30, and still going. Mostly BF2. And I just picked up the latest
           SSX, and also F.E.A.R. But I don't buy nearly as many games as
           I used to.
           \_ If you like BF2, check out the mod I mentioned (it's for BF42,
              but they're porting it.)  A lot fewer hosers, and they try to
              add a lot of historical realism.  -John
                 \_ Ha.  It's an accuracy mod, not a simulation--they put in
                    a pink Panther and the n00b stick... -John
        \_ Not yet (30). I still play games on my Mac. I was never into
           console games.
        \_ Right around when I started getting laid.
2005/9/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39890 Activity:kinda low
9/27    CSUA minutes:
        "Getting new games: $120 dollars for as many games as possible;
        passed 5:0 Who gets new games: Edilac will get new games, bring
        in front of politburo, see people want what games."
        A few questions. How much money does politburo have, and why
        should donations be made to them so they can enjoy while  all
        I had played was stinkin' netrek?
        \_ Didn't you play Risk?
        \_ get Titans?
           \_ Titan is an enormously long game for people who aren't
              experienced with it.  Better games for the CSUA office are
              simple things that can be played by a few people sitting around.
              Carcassone, Bohnanza.  -tom
              \_ Not to mention that a Titan set costs more than 120 these
                 days.  Damn me for letting mine get water damaged. -aspo
                    "Colossus is a Java clone of Avalon Hill's Titan(tm)
                    boardgame." I've actually tried a previous version
                    of it. Works well. Reminds me just how long a Titan
                    game takes and how I totally forgot how to play. -bz
              \_ CSUA was founded on Titans.. *gasp*
        \_ Netrek.. the card game..
           \_ the _collectable_ card game..
                \_ get the "Mojo Riser butt" (torping) special edition
        \_ We decided to allocate more money for games because it was said
           that a PS2 in the office was a large draw to attract people.
           Anything for more members. -mrauser
2005/9/19-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39748 Activity:nil
        Same idea as that sphere game a while back where you select
        from 10 items and try to do so in the right order so that
        everything grows to its fullest. -bz
2005/9/16-17 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39707 Activity:kinda low
9/15    Nintendo revels their new controller, and it really is different.
        REALLY different.
        \_ It looks all good until you get to the "plugging shit in and having
           it dangle" stuff
        \_ I see carpal tunnel all over this thing.  You can only squeeze
           your hand so many times to press a button.  At least with two
           hands you get some leverage off of each hand.
2005/8/31 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39378 Activity:nil
8/31    Let's play a game on motd. Post the h077es+ azn you can find on
        Friendster. Hottest defined as attractive women who are over 22+:
                \_ Tiffany is lesbian?
        \_ neither of those are 25+
        \_ Is it possible to be "over 22+"?
2005/8/25-26 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39280 Activity:nil
        Play games too long, you'll die.
        \_ Maybe it's a hoax.
           In other news, China has a new regulation for limiting people's
           playtime in MMOs:
           But maybe it's just to prevent Chinese from playing in foreign
           servers and becoming impure.
        \_ Koreans are weak.. played more than 5 days straight and lived..
        House Of Doom..
        \_ Breathe too long, you'll die too, 100% guaranteed.
2005/8/24-25 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39238 Activity:low
8/24    New pool player looking to buy a "decent" cue in the south bay.  Those
        at Copeland sell for about $10 to $40.  Have no idea if they are
        "decent".  Recommendations of places to buy a "decent" cue would be
        greatly appreciated.  Best if they have some knowledgable staffs to
        help me select the right one.
        \_ dont buy that crap from those sporting goods stores..
           search web for viking, meucci, etc..
           \_ This is good advice.  Go to a specialty pool/billiards store,
              not a general sporting goods store.  Going to copeland's for a
              pool cue is like going to McDonald's for fine french
              cuisine. -mice
        \_ I suppose it depends on your definition of 'decent' and what your
           budget is.  I spent $250 on an 18 Oz. meucci (a very light cue)
           about 4 or 5 years ago.  I'm still using it, and it's a fun cue
           to play with -- the weight and balance are excellent, and it
           doesn't look like a cheap POS.  Of course, I've had my ass handed
           to me by people playing with whatever is at the pool hall, so
           ultimately the equipment isn't likely to affect your game unless
           you're really good or it's *really* bad.  Check out:
           They have a great selection and their staff is really helpful
           and responsive.  Shoot me an email if you ever want to go shoot
           a table or two, or just want to chat more at length.   -mice
        \_ it is not going to make any difference what so ever.  Don't
           waste your money unless you get a discounted rate.
2005/8/23 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39229 Activity:low
8/23    ilya, what do you think of Arimaa?
        \_ Well, if you want an example of a game where computers do poorly,
           there is no need to invent a new one -- Wei Chi will do.  But
           thanks for the link -- looks interesting.  My intuition about this
           game, without looking into it carefully, is that one of the
           superstrategies is dominant (it is very difficult to balance the
           rules in such a way that you can have completely different looking
           games, and have them all be reasonable strategies). -- ilyas
2005/8/17-22 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39145 Activity:nil
8/17    Anyone played the multiplayer online games in China (or Korea)
        offered by companies like Shanda and Netease before?  What
        are they like and how do they compare with US offerings?
2005/8/12-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39105 Activity:nil
8/12    Anyone have a download of the video of the baseball players smacking
        into each other.
        \_ which baseball players?
        \_ (Mets site; not for the faint of heart)
2005/8/4-6 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38986 Activity:nil
8/2     Atari Flashbacks: <DEAD><DEAD>
2005/7/31-8/3 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38895 Activity:nil
7/30    Sorry to interrupt... Have anyone played Eve Online?  I looked at
        a bunch of fuzzy game play videos and read the FAQ, etc.  What's
        game play really like?  Thanks.
        \_ EVE is a good game.  Email me for a detailed response. -- ilyas
        \_ I too play this game, email me if you want more info --ERic(mehlhaff)
2005/7/28-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:38865 Activity:nil
7/28    So remember the guy on motd the other day that claimed that
        Microsoft's new anti-piracy measure would kill piracy once and for
        all?  Hacked within 24 hours:
        Now come back so that we can mock you.
        \_ I wonder how long before they patch the website up. Anyway,
           MS has the ability to do some real anti-piracy crap if they
           really wanted to, like they kind of do on XBOX live. However,
           I'm pretty sure someone out there will just start an alternate
           semi-legal "windows update" site that bypasses all this crap
           (like there are alternatives to XBOX live nowadays that doesn't
           do all that hardware and bios CRC checking).
        \_ I agree that this is a hack you need to do everytime you go to the
           Windows Update site (it's not as convenient as having a keygen'd
           product ID that just works), and it's likely it's not too hard for
           MS to fix by updating their HTML scripts.
2005/7/28-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38857 Activity:kinda low
7/28    Re violence/sex in games - Does anyone think that you need
        lots of graphic violence/sex in order to make a good game
        (esp. for younger kids)?
        \_ Obviously not.  Some of the best games ever have no sex and only
           the most abstract type of violence.  I guess you could say that
           loadrunner is violent since the bad guys get buried alive.
           \_ Is that the Load Runner back in the Apple ][ days?
              \_ That's the only one I ever played.  Is there an updated
                 \_ It's "lode runner" not "load runner" -- google "lode
                    runner" + I'm feeling lucky
        \_ I agree with the above poster.  Videogames do not neext be
           explicitly violent.  To be frank, GTA is one of the most vile
           games I've ever played.  It's also a lot of fun.
        \_ There was the whole Myst trilogy.  Also one of the best selling
           games of all time is the Civ. group.  The latter has abstract
           violence only.
           \_ We just finished the 5th Myst installment. Due on shelves
              in late September I believe. -bz
              \_ 5th Myst game?  I didn't even know that Myst 4 was released.
                 Is Cyan actually behind the 5th game?  I thought Myst 3 was
                 made by some other company (Ubisoft?) under license. -dans
                 \_ Ubisoft is a publisher, I thought. -geordan
                    \_ Yes, Ubi is our publisher. We took a break from
                       the official series to do Uru, so Myst 3 and 4
                       (4 came out last year) were done by other companies.
                       Myst 5 is all us. It's the last one. Our next
                       project has nothing to do with Myst. -bz
        \- Sims. Sims 2. Sim City. They should also have games that
           promote better driving, less middle fingering, and less
           crashes. It seems like games today do the opposite.
        \_ It's true that the vast majority of games involve violence. If you
           have a game where you directly control a character, usually you
           make the character do something violent. There are exceptions, like
           sports and driving games (but driving games usually become more fun
           when weapons are added). There are also adventure games like
           Monkey Island, Myst, The Longest Journey etc, but those don't really
           involve direct action; more just clicking on screen hotpoints.
           I guess Tomb Raider isn't primarily that violent. But the sexy
           character helps.
           Other examples: Katamari Damacy, Dance Dance Revolution
        \_ Games like railroad tycoon, civilization, transport tycoon, SimCity,
           don't have any violence except in the most abstract of terms ...
           Games don't need to have violence or sex but if they are highly
           interactive they often need it to be more compelling, since there
           usually isn't that much thinking involved in playing them ...
           \_ Civilization isn't violent? C'mon, you can NUKE cities in that
              game, what could possibly be more violent?
2005/7/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38850 Activity:nil
7/27    Blind (optic-nerve not connected) 17-year-old kicks your ass in Soul
        Caliber 2 - (AP)  cf. Woozie in GTA3: SA
        "I freak people out by playing facing backwards [away from screen]."
2005/7/27-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38847 Activity:low
        What a dumb bitch.
        \_ She's a bitch regardless, but only dumb if she can't win.
        \_ I remember back when Tipper Gore and the PMRC were pulling all their
           idiotic shenanigans over explicit song lyrics.  Remember when Dee
           Snyder and Frank Zappa came in and made them all look stupid?  Where
           are the heroic game designer equivalents of those musicians?
           Who will reveal Hillary Clinton and Orrin Hatch to be the
           grandstanding tools that they are?
           \_ I haven't seen anything by Hatch, what did he say?
              \_ Sigh.  Google Orrin Hatch video games.  Like the War On Drugs,
                 the War On Indecent Anything is a bipartisan fallacy.  All
                 politicians love to grandstand.
           \_ Well I like how the article never mentions the obvious, uh what's
              the right phrase here? anyway that the game was already rated
              "Mature (17+)" and these idiots are buying it for kids. And they
              are so concerned about essentially harmless sex scenes that a kid
              cannot see without specifically looking for how to access it and
              then using a 3rd party patch/tool, whereas with far less effort
              he can type "lolitas" into google, or whatever, and furthermore
              they couldn't care less about the game's extreme violence. Fuck
         Sen. Danforth:  "There is nothing on the face of the album which would
           notify you if the record has pornographic material or
           material glorifying violence?"
         Tipper Gore:    "No, there is nothing that would suggest that to me."
         Frank Zappa:    "I would say that a buzz saw blade between the guy's
           legs on the album cover is good indication that it's
           not for little Johnny."
           -- The Senate Commerce Committee hearing on rock
              lyrics, from The Village Voice, 6 Oct 1985
        \_ Have you at least played through 50% of the game?
           Don't tell me, "I haven't but I know what's going on Hillary's a
           dumb bitch!!1!" or "I only saw it at a friend's house".
           \_ No, Hillary is a very smart and venal bitch. -- ilyas
              \_ as opposed to dubya being ...
                 \_ I am sorry what does this entire thread have to do with
                    Bush? -- ilyas
        \_ fyi hot coffee video for proper background
                    \_ by presenting one fact without another highly related
                       fact, there is the perception of misleading information.
                       For example, the statement, "The CIA's judgment is that
                       there are no WMDs in Iraq" is true.  However, you
                       need to specify also, "But at the time Dubya made
                       the decision, the CIA's judgement was there were WMDs
                       in Iraq".  Withou the 2nd sentence, there is the
                       perception of misleading information ... an incomplete
                       picture not including critical elements.
                       It's what lawyers do everyday anyway.
                       \_ But that's not what pp said.  He brought up Bush
                          because I said a Bad Thing about Hillary. -- ilyas
                          \_ That's 'cause we all know you're a BUSH LOVER,
                             \_ Yes, I am apparently an administration
                                apologist. -- ilyas
                                \_ Yes. Motd says you are. Now go stand in the
                                   corner and hang your head in shame.  -motd
           \_ Actually yes, I have. What is your point? I was actually
              referring to the old woman plaintiff but as for Hillary I'm
              gonna go with ilyas' assessment. GTA is definitely a "mature"
              game but it has nothing on a lot of R rated movies. For example
              the movie "Colors".
              \_ being able to control my rate of screwing and vary my sexual
                 positions among 5 different virtual girlfriends while viewing
                 it with sound effects in an MA+-rated product from arguably
                 the most popular software publisher (Rockstar) using an
                 easily downloadable and well-known activation mod is
                 revolutionary (not to mention the simulated oral sex)!
                 \_ You should sue women for having hidden sexual body parts.
        \_ fyi hot coffee video for proper background
2005/7/18-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Interesting] UID:38685 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
7/18    Cute little flash game:
        \_ I wish this game puts in lives and deaths. I want to see players
           die with a lot of blood, and maybe decapitation, like
           Happy Tree Friends.
        \_ How do i play this game??
2005/7/18-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38671 Activity:nil
7/18    Does anyone have good or bad experiences with networked media
        centers?  If so, which do you have?
        \_ Does a hacked XBox count? If so, I've had one for about 18
           months and it works great as a MP3/AVI/DVD player. A recent
           version of the hacked firmware lets you upconvert AVIs and
           unencrypted DVDs to 720p and 1080i. The upconverting isn't
           as good as my Oppo DVD player but its not bad.
           \_ Where did you get the hacked XBox?  Did you hack it yourself?
              \_ Hacked it myself. The new mod chips take all of 15 mins
                 to install and even come w/ a switch to turn them off
                 in case you need to use your XBox for XBox Live.
                 \_ How hard are they to install?
                    \_ Mod chips are dead easy to install. You just
                       click them into place, turn on the XBox and
                       wait for the little red led on the mod chip
                       to turn on indicating you did it right. Most
                       of the 15 mins need to mod your XBox involves
                       unscrewing the case and hd.
2005/7/17-19 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Interesting] UID:38670 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
7/16    Beautiful little flash game
        \_ How do i play this game??
          \_ Figure it out.
          \_ as the above poster said, figuring out how to play the game is
             part of the game.
        \_ keywords: fun flash game samorost samorost2 samrost samrost2
2005/7/13-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38589 Activity:low
7/12    Any MUD afficianados around here?  My buddy is teaching a class
        to kids in "interactive fiction" and wants a MUD or mud like app that
         - Easy and fun to learn.  Presumably it is fun when you get a lot of
           results for little effort.
         - Can be played on the net via a java applet, so parents can play it
           without installing anything
         - Illustrations with the text -- some of the text adventure systems
           allow you to include sound or
           text, and that would be a fun thing to add to the story telling
           aspect.  I.e. here's a picture, write an adventure related to it.
        \_ Why do you want to ruin their lives? -phuqyu
        \_ Why do you want to ruin their lives?
        \_ Weren't aaron / danh pretty active with arctic?  I also recall
           sowings mucking with Genocide a lot a while ago.  You have been
           eaten by a grue.  -John
           \_ I played mume and sojourn once upon a day.  Armageddon is
              probably the best roleplaying mud on the net.  You know, now that
              I think of it, I am not sure there ARE muds for kids.  Some
              infocom games might be appropriate, but they are not multiplayer.
                -- ilyas
              I think of it, I am not sure there ARE muds for kids.  -- ilyas
              \_ You could port griljor to Java.  Now _that_ would rock. -John
        \_ Check out  It was a mud company when I worked
           there, though it's branched out a bit in recent years.  I'd
           particularly recommend checking out the articles section:
           Skotos' games are fairly complex and aimed at older audiences so
           they may not be the best thing for a class oriented towards kids,
           but the articles have a lot of useful thought on game design in
           general, and muds in particular.  The articles might be useful food
           for thought for an educator crafting a curriculum.  I'd also
           suggest taking a look at the single player interactive fiction
           development tools.  On the easy and fun to learn front, you might
           consider rolling your own system in scheme or logo modelled after
           the 61A interactive fiction project. -dans
        \_ Oh yeah, now that I think of it, there was a lot of work done on
           Crossfire (which, although not strictly a MUD, still incorporates
           a lot of the elements of one.)  For some names, take a look in
           /csua/share/include/crossfire*  -John
           \_ I played mume and sojourn once upon a day. -- ilyas
                \_ there is no /csua/share/include
                   \_ /csua/share/aliases.include.  Sgt. Bobby Shaftoe says:
                      "Display some fucking adaptability".  And man locate, you
                      Cal student, you.  -John
2005/7/5-6 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38425 Activity:nil
7/5     Dang it.  If you had asked me this morning, I would've said there
        was nothing that could possibly make me want an XBox 360.
        \_ You should get yourself a Clavilux!
2005/6/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Foreign] UID:38317 Activity:low
6/27    Has anyone been lucky enough to get to play a preview/beta version
        of Battlefield 2? What are your thoughts? Is it better than
        Battlefield Vietnam or 1942? "In Battlefield 2, players will choose
        to fight for one of three military superpowers: the United States,
        the Chinese, or the newly formed Middle East Coalition."
        \_ May I humbly suggest you try out Forgotten Hope?  I am really
           looking forward to their BF:2-based version.  It's the best mod
           I've seen yet.  -John
        \_ I tried it without ever seeing BV or 1942.  Way too complicated.
           Way too much loading time.  I uninstalled the demo pretty quick.
        \_ Try the demo.  Much better than BF:V.  Memory hog though.
        \_ Its the best thing since sliced bread, and more addictive.
           Way better than previous Battlefields, with the new dimension of
           squads, so there is a big push for teamwork now.  Loading time
           only happens when loading the level.  This game is a resource hog
           though, even more than HL2.  Downsides:  Snipers got nerfed big
           time, and often require 2-3 shots to take someone down.  Reloading
           time seems a lot longer too.  If you are at all interested, get
           the demo.   -rollee
           \_ Is that 2-3 head shots, or just anywhere shots?  I think
              recently snipers have been way too powerful in many games.
              My favorite example is AvP2, where the tougher aliens could
              take 5 anti-tank rockets to the head, but one sniper bullet
              kills them.
              \_  According to the forums, headshots are not instant kills.
2005/6/20-22 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38211 Activity:kinda low
6/20    If there are any X-COM: UFO defense fans in the audience, check out
        laser squad: nemesis.  Very fun squad-level turn-based strategy game,
        in the spirit of X-COM, Combat Mission, Jagged Alliance, etc. -- ilyas
        \_ I would love a game where you can lead a platoon and order them to
           do things (split, outflank, regroup) AND participate in the war
           in 3D. For example, in Battlefield 2 you're a soldier and you have
           no way of ordering men, and in Rise of Nations you're the commander
           and have no way of participating it in the first person. They should
           have something that combines both.
           \_ Savage does exactly this. One person plays commander and gets
              an RTS view, everyone else plays it like an FPS. Tribes also
              did this.
              \_ Half-Life Natural Selection also does it.  No vehicles
           \_ Brother in Arms?
           \_ Have you played Homeworld?  It's not person-based, and you
              can't really take a 1st-person view, but I think being able
              to order squadrons around in formations is really neat.  -John
              \_ Mothership.
        \_ I looked at it a few years ago and it was much more frustrating
           than any of the games you mentioned.  It wasn't nearly as clean,
           mostly because everything happened at the same time and being able
           to tell how long it would take to do an action was really hard.
           \_ It uses combat mission's 'VCR tape' metaphor for combat,
              which I personally like, but I can see why people would hate it.
              It IS harder to get good results in this metaphor, but it's more
              realistic than units taking turns, imo.  -- ilyas
              \_ I don't care about realism.  I care about fun.  But I could
                 live with it if it gave you a way to actually tell what the
                 fuck you expect to happen during a turn.  As it is I don't
                 know how many pixels I expect someone to run, or how long
                 a gun takes to shoot so I can wait until after I think
                 a few shots have gone off to have someone dash for the door.
                 \_ Gamespy just gave Battlefield 2 five out of five stars!
                    Yes I know it's multiplayer FPS and not turn-based stgy.
                        \_ You better have a kick-ass machine, the minimum
                           system requirements are ridiculous, my machine
                           cannot play it!
                 \_ There is this old jungle saying about how 'no plan
                    survives contact with the enemy.'  Having to plant for
                    survives contact with the enemy.'  Having to plan for
                    possible contingencies based on limited information about
                    enemy position, movement, and intent, and having to deal
                    with the fact that you soldiers are perfect drones obeying
                    your every order exactly is something I find kind of neat.
                    YMMV, as I said.  -- ilyas
                    with the fact that your soldiers are not perfect drones
                    obeying your every order exactly is something I find kind
                    of neat.  YMMV, as I said.  -- ilyas
                    \_ It's not the planning I mind it's the fact that "I want
                       this person to start running this way as soon as X is
                       dead" is not possible.  So instead I have to guess and
                       hope I'm right.  Especially considering I have to guess
                       even how long it will take to shoot n times which I
                       think should be enough time to kill X.  There needs to
                       be a better way to give the dudes orders because as it
                       is right now it is just frustrating.  And I'm fine with
                       them not obeying orders all the time, morale issues are
                       kind of fun in a game, but dealing with poor ui is not
                       morale, it's fighting with the game engine to get it to
                       do what you want.
                       \_ Yeah, that's true.  Having a 'programming language',
                          or, more accurately, a contingency planning language
                          (a big AI area) would be nice.  A nice bonus here is
                          that it would be possible to write good AI for these
                          games then, or at the very least bring modern
                          techniques to bear. -- ilyas
        \_ I've heard nice things about Full Spectrum Warrior.  I've
           wanted to try it.  Any motd opinions?
2005/6/1 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:37918 Activity:nil
6/1     I seek a characteriszation of the many video game review/news/media
        sites by characterization of their typical reviewers and readership.
        I'll start with IGN, since I've noticed that seems to be the the
        site most solely devoted to teenage boys with a need for cheesecake.
        IGN:    desperate boys. mainly favor FPS games with lots of
                constant carnage. separate section devoted to babe photos.
        GameSpot:       a slightly diversified crowd. too nice to games that
                        should be dismissed out of hand like movie-based games.
                        some women on staff. heavy product placement.
        Please add more you might know.
2005/6/1-3 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:37912 Activity:nil
6/1     I can't wait till Age of Empires III comes out. Everything else
        out there sucks in terms of GUI and playability. Sucky games
        including Rome:Total War, Rise of Nations, and especially
        Empire Earth II (this game has not improved much since the
        first version, SHAME). Emsemble has a great track record, I
        hope they don't ruin AoE3.
        \_ Associates of mine (albeit ones who loved R:TW) say that Cossacks
           is the mutt's nuts.  -John
           \_ I've played Cossacks.  It looks nice.  It plays nice.
              It's just not that much fun.  I blame it on the fact
              it's written by Bulgarians. - danh
              \_ In Soviet Bulgaria, Cossacks play YOU!  -John
              \_ Hey they wrote game called Cossacks, not Bulgarians
                 (A game in which armies of shadowy characters stab
                  each other with poison umbrellas). I have no point
                 here, I just like saying "rupleforeskin" -pvg
                                                       (resident Bulgarain)
2005/5/26-31 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/HW/CPU] UID:37840 Activity:nil
        Are you bored? Want to download cool game demos? Here are top 50
        games to try. Make sure you have a nice PC (Athlon 64, +1G RAM,
        vid card).
        \_ Umm, are you saying if it's not a P4, it's not a "nice PC?"
           I take you on any day with my three Athlon 64 machines on games.
           \_ It's just a rough guideline, chill.
2005/5/25-26 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/HW/IO] UID:37842 Activity:nil
5/25    Does anyone have a PS2 -> DIN AT Keyboard adapter?
        Like this?
        Or perhaps even a DIN keyboard they don't use anymore? I want
        to buy it.  Or have it bequeathed to me please.  --maxmcc
        \_ you can get that at Fry's for $4.99
           \_ I'll let you know when the cops find my stolen truck.
              Until then, please see above!  --maxmcc
2005/5/20 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Industry/Jobs, Recreation/Sports] UID:37784 Activity:high
5/20    For the person who was asking how to best answer the question,
        "What's your weekness?" during the interview.  IMHO, the best
        way to answer that is to talk about how you'd like to be more
        proficient in an area that you are _not_ interviewing for.
        For example, if you are interviewing for a backend position,
        then talk about how you are not as strong in front end design
        but would love to get more exposure to it.  Or for non-managedment
        engineering positions in general, it is also okay to say you are
        not comfortable enough speak in front of hundredes or thousdands
        of people but you would like to take some public speech classes
        if the company can sponsor it (it is important to quatify the
        number of audience; you want to point out you are totally comfortable
        doing a technical presentation/review for your peers).
        This answer usually leads to discussion about company's education
        benefits, which is what you want to find out anyway.
        \_ The best answer is "I don't have any weaknesses"
         \_ I'd rather someone blew off the question than respond this way
         \_ No, that's the worst answer.a
            \_ I dunno -- the last thread about this had some pretty messed
            \_ It's not the worst answer if it is true. If you're good at
               your job and you have good people skills to boot plus tons
               of experience in the relevant positions then why would you
               have any weaknesses? I mean, seriously, what the hell are you
               supposed to say? I don't have a good backhand in tennis?
               I don't play golf? I mean, seriously, wtf ARE you supposed to
               say if you have 10+ years of experience in the field, worked
               on various projects as follower or leader, have had a pretty
               good track record on those projects, given lectures on the
               field, published papers, etc. etc.. If you are the best
               candidate for the job, why SHOULD you have any weaknesses?
               \_ If you think you're perfect, that's a weekness.
                  \_ Perhaps if you think you are NOT perfect for the job,
                     now that's a weakness. If you don't think you're perfect
                     for the job, then why are you applying? Also, who said
                     anything about thinking that you yourself are perfect?
                     Not having a weakness != perfection.
                     \_ Okay, I'll emend that.  If you don't think you have
                        weaknesses, you're lying to yourself and others.
                        \_ So in other words, you don't believe that people
                           can be good at what they do. That's an interesting
                           \_ No.  I believe that people who are never
                              introspective are dangerous.  I believe that
                              people who don't find they have things to
                              better in themselves are stunted and boring.
                              \_ Being introspective is one thing, being
                                 weak at something is another. Don't mix
                                 the two. You're confusing self assessment
                                 with being weak. Self assessment leads to
                                 improvement, even in things you are strong
                                 at. It's akin to saying that Tiger Woods
                                 has a "weak" short game. His weak short
                                 game still blows 99% of the population
                                 out of the water. He can improve on it,
                                 (heck, he can improve on all aspects of
                                 his game), but I wouldn't call it a
                                 weakness, especially if you're applying
                                 for a job. Seriously, this is one of those
                                 dumb corporate interview questions that
                                 should be banned. It's a dumb question and
                                 leads to no real answers.
                                 \_ Sounds like you're reading too much into
                                    the question.  This is exactly what they're
                                    asking about.  Things you'd like to be
                                    better at.  Maybe it's bad terminology,
                                    but you're being really obtuse.
                                 \_ If you asked Tiger Woods his biggest
                                    weakness and he said "My short game"
                                    it would make plenty of sense. How his
                                    short game compares to mine is not the
        \_ my biggest weakness is not being able to find more time to <stick
           in something irrelevant to work>. For example, I'm unable to find
           more time to read fine American literatures, take French/cooking,
           class, and do things that'll make me a better rounded person.
           Heck they don't give a shit how well-rounded you are, so why not.
        \_ The purpose of this question is to bait you into revealing a real
        show stopper flaw, or see if you dodge the question or throw up a smoke
        screen answer.  As long as you answer it honestly and don't throw out
        a juicy flaw like stealing other people's lunchs from the company
        refrigerator, you are probably fine.  -ax
           \_isn't hacking code and eating Doritos making you more well-rounded
                \_ Only in the chiapet sense.
2005/5/12-13 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:37649 Activity:nil
5/12    For some reason, I find this line amusing:
        Mr Gates says the new Xbox will show that Microsoft "is hardcore
        about gaming"
        \_ What kind of hardcore can be made by someone who's micro and soft?
2005/5/7-11 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:37569 Activity:nil
5/6     Awhile back I asked if anybody knew a place where one could rent
        game consoles. Nobody responded with a useful answer. So, if
        anybody else care, Silver Screen on Grand rents PS2s, XBoxes and game
2005/5/4 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:37511 Activity:nil
5/3     Does anyone here own Midway Arcade Treasures 2 for the PS2?  Do
        you know how to select Ralph in Rampage World Tour?  If I use
        Controller 1 I get George, if I use Controller 2 I get Lizzie, how
        can I choose Ralph?
        \_ Character selection in Rampage
           To play as the following characters, start the Rampage game
           with controller one. At the start screen for Rampage press
           Start on any of the other controllers. You can disconnect the
           first controller if you only have one and plug it into another
        George the Gorilla: Controller one
        Lizzie the Lizard: Controller two
        Ralph the Wolf: Controller three
        \_ So you need a four-player tap to use Ralph?  What a retarded
           system. -!op
        \_ That's what I was afraid of, agree with the above poster,
           that's stupid of Midway.  He was my fav, and I don't want to
           buy a multi-tap just to play as him :(
           \_ Heh, you posted on as well.
        \_ dun dun Dun Dun DUN DUN DUN DUN DA DA DA DADADAH! dahdahdun
2005/4/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:37378 Activity:moderate
4/26    X-Com UFO Defense is an awesome game.
        \_ is this 4/26/94?
           \_ nope, it's 4/27/10191
        \_ Seconded.  I reinstalled it on my laptop (there is a nice
           launcher to make it work under XP as well as a multiplayer
           add-on) to play on planes and places w/out wifi.  Let me know
           if you want pointers to the XP patch/multiplayer stuff.  Also, if
           you're into old timewaster games, remember Worms?  -John
           \_ Ooh, please!  Last time I tried installing it there were wierd
              ploblems from timing loops being out of whack on modern hardware
              problems from timing loops being out of whack on modern hardware
              which made it unplayable. -dgies, !op
              \_ Worms 2 works okay on most new windows boxes.
                 \_ Yup, and worms 2 is the best incarnation of the game,
                    especially in the area of interface design.
                 \_ I was talking about X-Com -dgies
                    \_ You can always try using moslo
                    \_ I run it under dosbox, and it seems to work pretty
                       well.  When I just ran it under XP it was funky.
           \_ Yes, pointers please!
              \_ for multiplayer.
        for the bugfixed version.
                 Worms is technically still sold by Plan19 so you're going
                 to have to find that yourself.  If you still have problems
                 with x-com, drop me a mail at  -John
                 \_ you shouldn't put email addresses as email harvestors are
                    collecting emails to sell to spammers
                    \_ <generic-sounding first name>@three letter
                       We get about 3500-4000 spams to this email address per
                       day and stop almost all of them.  Am I worried?  -John
2005/4/11-13 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:37146 Activity:nil
4/11    Korean minister says he supports army gaming corps:
        \_ To understand why this actually sort of makes sense, you have
           to know the place Starcraft holds in Korea.  It is a very
           popular sport.  At least 2 channels show tournoments almost all
           day long.  The players hold the same position for people as
           popular sports figures.  It is a big deal. -jrleek
2005/3/22-23 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:36809 Activity:low
3/22    Hello fellow l0s3r5, I mean g4m3rz.  If you want a brain-dead RTS
        with lots of spiffy graphics and a wacko plot but for some reason
        you'll enjoy, try Act of War: Direct Action.  Still $38 at Fry's.
        \_ I would have gotten this except the French developers kept
           playing scenarios of nuking the white house.
           \_ sounds like a selling point!
           \_ What's wrong with that? I hate French people, but I hate
              the current administration even more.
              \_ Do you honestly hate French people? Or just go along with
                 that because it's cool. Now personally, I can find a lot of
                 things to complain about if I wanted about Frenchies but I
                 can do that about any group of people.
                 \_ I wish that America would exterminate the French gene
                    from the human race.
                    \_ That sounds like something Hitler would say!
           \_ Why do you care either way?  It's a game.  -John
              \_ If they were "just games" I don't think the Army would be
                 advertising so heavily on video game sites, and producing
                 their own video game.
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