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        Don't get overhyped on PS3 and Wii.  CNET reporter says that in his
        informal poll, 3 out of 6 people he knew who got an early Xbox 360
        had their hardware eventually fail.  The warranty is only 90 days,
        although after enough bad press MS is paying for all repairs for
        machines built before 2006.
        \_ People trying v.1 are brave and stupid. Like the people who tried
           Win95 v1, Win98 v1, and MacBook Pro v1.
                \_ Or Microsoft bloodstream beta, once medical nanobots
                   become reality.
        \_ So don't buy a ps3 or a wii cause microsoft fucked up big time?
           Isn't that a bit backwards?
           \_ it all depends on what 'overhyped' means
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Nintendo Wii, both of which are due to hit just before Thanksgiving. Supplies of both systems will be limited, with the PS3 being in particularly short supply, as Sony currently plans to ship only 400,000 units to North America. There will be plenty of press along with the usual midnight launch events that feature a couple of guys at the front of the line who've camped out for two days on the street to secure their spots. And CNET will probably have to fight to get review units in time to have reviews posted on the day each system hits stores. But so, too, is the ugly fact there's a reasonable chance that some of the early units may not be glitch-free or, more probably, could end up with shorter life expectancy rates than, well, expected. Just in the last couple of months, I've spoken to several people who were among the first to purchase the 360 and have now had to send their units back to Microsoft for repair. Gamespot, "Microsoft has now apparently admitted that the initial shipments of Xbox 360s were failing at a greater than normal rate." No one's releasing any hard numbers, but in my little informal poll, three out of the six people I know who got an early Xbox 360 have had their systems fail. On a personal level, my early PSP unit, while it does have three dead pixels, is still working fine. These type of first-gen kinks are de rigueur across the electronics industry. complaints that the player was overly prone to scratching. Ideally, companies should try to isolate software issues from the hardware. It's hard to expect a major manufacturer such as Toshiba or Sony to say, essentially, "hey, you're buying a beta product today, but we're going to be regularly improving it with software upgrades." While Philips doesn't advertise it, the internal firmware of its new generation of flat-panels TVs can be upgraded with a USB thumbdrive. Post your comment here One problem, of course, is that the average consumer isn't necessarily prepared--or is intimidated by the idea of having to upgrade a product with a file he or she needs to find on the Internet and either burn to a DVD or CD or download to some sort of flash memory. The best possible scenario is for products to have more transparent Internet connections and update themselves without any assistance from their owners. This is essentially what happens with devices that are always online. Cable and satellite companies, for instance, are always pushing new software updates to their set-top boxes and DVRs. The same is true for the Xbox 360, via its Xbox Live service. It's also what will happen with the PS3 and the Wii, both of which are touting more robust online connectivity than previous Sony and Nintendo consoles. And that's yet another reason to consider both of them to be beta products when they launch in November. The bigger problem is that, if the hardware itself is flawed, as is the case with the early Xbox 360 units and their overheating problems (it remains to be seen whether later units will also fail at alarmingly high rates). I'm not suggesting it's a sure bet that Sony's going to have issues with the PS3, but I'd feel comfortable wagering a small amount of money that, with a product this advanced that's crammed into a small box that also features a new chip, you may have a few too many lemons in its early crop. In other words, I'm in no hurry to buy a PS3, even if I could somehow make sure I was near the top of the preorder list. Sony PlayStation 3 To make a high-tech omelette, you're bound to break a few eggs. Yeah, I know an admonition to steer clear of first-generation products is hardly a revelation for tech heads. But when you're already paying $600 for a game console--which doesn't even include a game--tacking on anything extra just seems too painful. With a more affordable console like the Wii, which will start at $250, I can see taking a chance on an early unit, especially if you're a Nintendo fan boy--or girl--who needs a Zelda fix or a parent who has to endure the incessant whines of your children begging for a new system. Heck, half of its appeal is that it can play old games from other Nintendo systems. Give Sony six months to get the factories humming and the bugs sorted out, and for a compelling game or two to arrive. Or, if you're really smart, wait for the price drop $100 and for Blu-ray discs to cost the same as DVDs. Are you going to buy a PS3 or Wii at launch, or wait a few months? See profile) - October 5, 2006 11:16 PM PDT I don't understand why a supposed objective site like c/net would allow a very subjective discussion of an upcoming console.. The idiot who is advising people to buy the PS3 later ...