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2007/7/6-8 [Consumer/CellPhone, Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:47184 Activity:nil
7/5     URL name says all:
        http://stupidiphonelady.com
        \_ Uh, no. The young guy has all the time in the world and waited
           12 hours to earn $800 (not bad), but maybe the stupid iphone
           lady could earn much more than that in 12 hours. Granted she
           couldn't buy more than 1 iPhone since she didn't read the rules,
           but it sounds like she's wealthy enough to spend a lot of money to
           not have to wait 12 excrutiating hours. It's no different than
           seeing wealthy yuppies in Beverely Hills willing to pay $40 parking
           tickets to buy $5 Pinkberry yogurt. Sounds like a win-win
           situation to me
2007/7/6-7 [Reference/BayArea] UID:47185 Activity:low 93%like:47218
7/6     SF fireworks mayhem:
        http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/05/BAGHNQRD8841.DTL
        http://sfist.com/2007/07/05/there_was_indee.php
        http://www.yelp.com/topic/YmTe4zuKvbsJ249bHhu0Sw

        and then there's this guy
        http://sfist.com/2007/07/05/there_was_indee.php#comment-1141222
        \_ sfist is racist? huh?
        \_ The girl who lost a finger is in this photo:
           http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2007/01/18/NSGMKLNB6H1.DTL&o=0
2007/7/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47186 Activity:nil
7/6     Damn this Bush economy!
        http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/06/ap3889125.html
        \_ Another piddling job growth report that beat expectations... Great.
           Let me know when wages grow along with productivity, and when the
           savings rate is positive again.  Wake me when job growth meets
           population growth... Go go bushonomics
        \_ Tax Cuts and the Not So Great Economy (Economist's View)
           http://www.csua.org/u/j3f
           \_ This has exactly crap to do with the article.  And this putz
              points to negative job growth and decreasing GDP after 2001 and
              blames the tax cuts?!  No mention of, say, other events in 2001?
              -emarkp
              to the
        \_ Jared Bernstein, senior economist at the Economic Policy Institute,
           a Washington think tank, noted the participation rate has fallen
           especially sharply for young people, blacks and Hispanics, groups
           who are especially sensitive to the economys ups and downs.
           If those missing workers were reported as unemployed, the jobless
           rate would be 5% instead of 4.5%, he said in a report.
           \_ Sure.  A Left think tanker says "which do you believe, me or the
              numbers?"
        \_ Damn these tax and spend Democrats in charge of Congress and their
           nearly instanteous good effect on the economy!
2007/7/6-10 [Recreation/Pets] UID:47187 Activity:nil
7/6     If you're gonna get a dog, DO NOT get a Chow Chow.
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/thisweek/story/0,12977,1083409,00.html
        \_ Agreed. Not a good choice:
           http://en.allexperts.com/q/Dogs-701/chow-chow-2.htm
        \_ "Coren's study says Chows were originally bred as food animals.
           Who needs smart food?" I've actually met a few Chow Chow owners
           who got them as pups and were surprised at how lazy and
           aggressive Chow Chow's turned out, and their lack of motivation
           for learning new trick. In many cases they would defend the
           intelligence of their dogs by saying something to the effect
           "Well *my* dog is different, it's too smart to listen to
           anyone." In short, stupid owners own stupid dogs (or put it
           another way a dog's behavior is a reflection on the owners)
           \_ Chows aren't an aggressive breed in the sense that pit bulls
              are.  Mostly they just want to be left alone so unless you go
              out of your way to find and harass a Chow the Chow will happily
              ignore you, but sure if you go harassing the poor thing then
              expect to be snarled at.  Duh.  The deal with Chows is they're
              not social pack oriented dogs.  They will find a single person
              they decide is theirs and want the rest of the world to go away.
              If you're that one person you've got a great friend, if not then
              just ignore it and leave it alone and it'll leave you alone.
              Tricks:  their one person can get them to do stuff but they tend
              to choose someone who lets them alone in the first place so no
              they tend not to be a trick performing dog.  In short, they're
              not family dogs, but they can be really good for a widow(er) who
              won't inundate the poor creature with hordes of family.  I'm not
              sure where you came up with all these Chow owners you've known.
              It isn't a very common breed.
              \_ I lived in Asia. It's common there. Sadly, most owners
                 I've met buy dogs because of their looks (oh it looks
                 so cute and the color matches my purse!) and do not
                 understand anything about temperament, health, genetics,
                 maintenance, etc. Dogs are well behaved when their owners
                 are assertive and lead. Most dogs do not behave well and
                 bark excessively or have some neurotic behaviors because
                 the owners are shy or incapable. This is why so many
                 dogs are let go on the streets and end up as chows.
                 In conclusion, people are stupid.              -pp
                 \_ Like I said the other day, before getting any dog the
                    wanna-be owner should research the breeds they're
                    interested in and dog care requirements in general.
                    Chows are great for some people, terrible for others.
                    The same can be said for any breed.  For example the
                    dogs they train as 'assistance dogs' for para/quadra-
                    pelegics(sp?) are not the super whip smart dogs.  They
                    grow bored too easily or in some cases do great in
                    training but won't respond well for someone who can't
                    physically dominate them.  Assistance dogs tend to be
                    mellower, slower, less smart but willing to work for
                    their person all day long while the smart dogs give up
                    after a few minutes.
        \_ Very scientific.
2007/7/6-7 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Pets] UID:47188 Activity:low
7/6     The tennis star always keeps abreast of Mandy (Moore)'s movements.
        http://www.funlol.com/pictures/mandy-moore-boobs.html (NSFW)
        \_ You owe me 4 seconds of my life back.
2007/7/6 [Uncategorized] UID:47189 Activity:nil
7/6     Why was the motd ilyased? Asshole.
2007/7/6 [Uncategorized] UID:47190 Activity:nil
7/6     ass hair dude, I'm going to find you and pee on you.
2007/7/6-10 [Computer/HW/Drives, Consumer/TV] UID:47191 Activity:nil
7/6     I want to copy a dvd.  can i just make a giant iso and
        burn it to a blank dvd in my dvd burner?
        \_ Depends on the DVD, really.  What is it?
2007/7/6-8 [Transportation/Car] UID:47192 Activity:nil
7/5     Grand Theft Auto: Lego City
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=jF-kELmmvgA
2007/7/6 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:47193 Activity:nil
7/6     Hi I need some general pointers of what to look for if my
        app is running slow on a recent Solaris box.  What should
        I be noting?
2007/7/6-10 [Science/Space, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:47194 Activity:nil
7/6     Science!
        http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,2115569,00.html
        \_ I considered myself a science person, and I can't even remember from
           high school the answer for "Why does salt dissolve in water?"! :-(
2007/7/6-10 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:47195 Activity:nil
7/6     Sprint hate you
        http://news.com.com/8300-10784_3-7-0.html?keyword=customer+service
        \_ David Horowitz, where are you when we need you?
2007/7/6 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:47196 Activity:high
7/6     my google fu is weak.  How do I match EOF ( tr or perl or sed or any
        linux tool that will do substitutions in a file)? thanks.
        \_ What are you trying to do?
2007/7/6-7 [Recreation/Computer, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47197 Activity:nil
7/6     Marta Domachowska: bustier than other Eastern Europe tennis players
        http://www.mfwweb.com/tennis/IW05/#Marta_Domachowska
        http://www.icelebz.com/celebs/marta_domachowska/photo13.html
2007/7/6-10 [Health, Reference/Law/Court] UID:47198 Activity:kinda low
7/6     FREE CLARENCE AARON:
        http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/cases/aaron.html
        \_ Yes, because an interview with a convicted criminal is never
           one-sided.
        \_ the first time offender got 3 consecutive life terms for being a
           middle man in 1 drug deal.  Do you really think that's fair?
           \_ Who are you responding to?
           \_ Or so he claims.
              \_ even if he personally inserted cocaine into the noses
                 of 80 school children, do you think he should get life
                 without parole?
                 \_ Given that we don't know the whole story, I have no idea
                    what the proper penalty should be.
                        \_ There's a link on that page to a prosecutor's
                           comment and explanation of the case and sentence.
                           still seems just a little harsh.
                           \_ And you didn't post the link why?
                              \_ Pure laziness actually.
                                 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/cases/clark.html
                                 http://urltea.com/xgd (pbs.org)
                                 I dont like mandantory anything.
                                 \_ I don't see anything from the prosecutor.
                                    But at any rate there's a lengthy interview
                                    with the defense attorney there.  Still the
                                    same side of the story.
                    \_ Screw the circumstances, if he personally inserted coke
                       into the noses of 80 school children, the answer is
                       YES, he should get life without parole, first-time
                       \_ I was joking...
                          \_ Aaaaand?
                       offender or not. Some things are just beyond the pale.
                       As for the current situation, well, that's a different
                       matter.
2007/7/6 [Uncategorized] UID:47199 Activity:high
7/3        \_ In Hong Kong, lines are longer but they move much faster.
              \_ why is that?
                 \_ Because counter clarks and attendents are forced to work
                    fast in order to keep the places in business.  For example
                    McDonald's goal for the time between "How may I help you"
                    and you receiving all your items (even for multiple people)
                    and change is 30 seconds.
                    \_ 60 seconds.
                       \_ 60?  It seemed to be much faster than that.  Did you
                          work at McD in Hong Kong?  Any inside knowledge?
2007/7/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:47200 Activity:nil
7/6     Fox News claims universal health care causes terrorism
        http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/015020.php
        MSNBC picks up the claim as well
        http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/015031.php
        \_ You're posting a link to a blog that is the same as your subject
           line--well okay, it mentions Neil Cavuto.  Anything else to add?
           Like say, an actual quote that substantiates the claim?
           \_ Gee, see that youtube video stream THAT IS PART OF THE BLOG
              POST, maybe just maybe that might be proof enough.  This whole
              "instantly claim there is no proof in an attempt to debunk
              the fact that the nutters are in charge of the american right"
              bit is getting old.  Then again I bet you think global
              warming is a giant communist consipracy.
              \_ Ah, youtube is blocked at my company, so I didn't even see it.
        \_ So what do you think causes terrorism?
2007/7/6 [Uncategorized] UID:47201 Activity:nil 75%like:47203
7/6     What is best in life?:
        SHARP STICK IN EYE:
        new Transformers movie:
2007/7/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:47202 Activity:nil
7/6     150 roving lesbian gangs in DC alone, says O'Reilly Show:
        http://www.glaad.org/action/calls_detail.php?id=4031
        \_ Also according to the O'Reilly Show, SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
2007/7/6 [Uncategorized] UID:47203 Activity:nil 75%like:47201
7/6     What is best in life?:
        SHARP STICK IN EYE:
        new Transformers movie:
        Anal sex with a busty 16 year old: .
2007/7/6-10 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:47204 Activity:nil
7/6     The planet used to be warmer than we thought.
        http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070705191403.gahmdtoi
        \_ Well, an actual quote from the atricle is:
           "What we've learned is that THIS PART OF THE WORLD was
           significantly warmer than most people thought."
           \_ You're right, it is not in the planetary averages at all.
2007/7/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:47205 Activity:low
7/6     Forget about the first female future president or the first minority
        future president.  Here's the first white male future president in
        110 years.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070627/ap_on_re_us/mr_pta
        \_ 'Susan Bailey of Wellesley Centers for Women at Wellesley College
            said the election of a man to the PTA's top post is "exactly the
            kind of thing we would hope would happen more often."'
           Wouldn't it be great if the average American voter could say the
           same thing about a female or minority POTUS?
        \_ Forget the 'First' anything.  The first minority was already elected
           when Kennedy got in, btw.  I don't give a fig about 'First XYZ'
           based on color or gender.  I want honest, competent people in
           office who give a shit, not power mad selfish people who just might
           also happen to be a 'First' or not and I don't care what their
           'party' is.  Currently not seeing anyone running who fits the
           description though, sadly.  That would be my 'First': honest,
           competent, not there for their ego or the personal power, looking
           out for Americans first, not the rest of the world before the
           people who elected them.
           \_ But ask the average joe whether he thinks Kennedy is a minority.
              Look at the Irish community in SF.  Their need as a minority
              group has been largely ignored.
              \_ Ask anyone at the time if Kennedy was a minority.  It was a
                 *huge* big deal at the time and everyone said there was no
                 way a Catholic could get elected and the country just wasn't
                 ready for a Catholic POTUS.  I'm not sure what your point is
                 about SF Irish.
                 \_ Like you said, "at the time".  The average joe nowadays
                    knows more about Paris Hilton's sex life than about US
                    history.
                    \_ It doesn't matter if it was 'at the time' and no longer
                       true.  The fact that Kennedy was the 'First' Catholic
                       puts to rest all further claims of 'a Catholic can
                       never be elected POTUS' because obviously that is not
                       true *after* Kennedy was elected.  This isn't a history
                       quiz and has nothing to do with what the average joe
                       knows about Kennedy.  I don't understand why you bring
                       that up.  I still want an honest, competent person in
                       office of any race/gender/whatever/bullshit and I'm not
                       getting it.  Being a female, a minority, a Catholic, a
                       white, a black, a purple, or anything else does not
                       make for a better -or- worse POTUS.  The content of
                       their character is what matters, not the color of their
                       skin.
          \_ Romney.  Extremely competent, detail oriented, and honest.
             http://economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9441455
2007/7/6-7 [Recreation/Media] UID:47206 Activity:nil
7/6     opinions on jsl watching the transformers movie?
        \_ hot
2007/7/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/California, Recreation/Dating] UID:47207 Activity:kinda low
7/6     We know how predictably southern male will vote. But what about
        southern women?  Will they vote for a woman of a different party?
        \_ I have lots of in-laws in The South. I just came back from
           Georgia and Alabama and in April I was in Louisiana, Alabama,
           and Mississippi. Like anywhere else, you cannot reliably
           predict how any single person will vote. Remember, too, that
           The South is not just comprised of evangelical whites. Polling
           people I know and met, none of them are too happy with Bush at
           the moment. Will that translate to them voting Republican in
           2008? That depends on the candidates both parties put up. I
           also want to say, regarding Southern women, that I had almost
           forgotten that tall, slender, light-eyed women exist. Well, not
           forgotten completely, but forgotten that there are places where
           they are in the majority. Atlanta in particular was brimming
           with attractive white women, if you spent time in the upscale
           areas. The (upper middle class) black women there were very
           attractive and put together, too, but it was all the blonde
           women with light eyes that really stood out to me. California
           has some fine women, but not so many of the fairer variety,
           unless you count blonde out of a bottle.
           \_ If you like blondes, you will love the upper midwest. Wisconsin
              and North Dakota are something like 50% blonde.
              \_ Yes and 98% of them will never date anything but white.
                 \_ You know this how exactly?  No matter what your color no
                    one decent will want someone with a giant chip on their
                    shoulder like you have.
                    \_ http://neuropolitics.org/defaultfeb07.asp
                       The more conservative you are the more likely you
                       will only want to date white.
                       \_ Yeah yeah you found a new website with tons of
                          what you consider high quality troll material.
                          Got anything to actually say on any of these
                          topics?
              \_ Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they tend to be
                 overweight up there? The South is full of fit, athletic
                 women - at least when they are 40 and under. If you look
                 at the older women, a lot of them have let themselves go.
                 \_ You are correct, but you're also assuming that all
                    men like skinny skanks. I like my women to be full
                    grown and I don't mind them being a bit chunky.
                    \_ Why does skinny == skank to you?  Any woman that didn't
                       stuff her face and maybe put in some time staying fit is
                       a skank?
        \_ Mmmmmm, yeah, because people aren't individuals.  They're just
           demographic clumps.  You already know in advance exactly what each
           person is going to do based on their race and gender.
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