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2007/8/23-27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:47716 Activity:nil 75%like:47714 80%like:47718
8/22    What is a controller?  What is a model?  What is a view?
        \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller
2007/8/23 [Transportation/Car] UID:47717 Activity:nil 73%like:47712
8/22    There are car insurance companies.  There are car insurance
        brokers.  Is there any reason for me to go through a broker (and
        Why not just go directly to the car insurance
        company site?  Opinions?
        \_ I guess it's the same as mortgage companies vs. mortgage brokers.
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47718 Activity:nil 80%like:47716
8/22    What is a controller?  What is a model?
        \_ what is a view?  did I win something?   -brain
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47721 Activity:nil
8/23    and why do i keep popping out?
2007/8/23-27 [Consumer/Camera] UID:47723 Activity:nil
8/23    Dear Nikon experts, can you enlighten me on the complex
        compatibility issues with Nikon G/E/etc lenses? I'd like to
        understand how they fit/don't fit with each other, and
        what features I'd miss (AF, etc) I'd miss if I don't fit
        them correctly. The whole Nikon thing's pretty
        DAMN COMPLICATED, compared to Pentax.   -Old Pentax expert guy
        \_ http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1224.htm
           Scroll to the alphabet soup. Also look at the history:
           http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/dslr.htm
           http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikortek.htm
           The main website's pretty good too.
        \- if you arent buying/inheriting old lenses the only thing
           you need to be aware of is D and G. The Nikon mounts are all
           the same physically [unlike Canon]. G lenses are "cheaper" and for
           digital only. The differences are for the lenses that will
           with for digital sensors size only and the full frame, and some
           of the cheepers digital lenses dont have an aperture control ring,
           you can only control aperture form the dial on the camera body.
           now once you get into the most complicated bodies [F200, F5, F6]
           and the advanced metering, then you get into the super-complicated
           lens by lens, but by and large if you get lenses the same vintage
           as camera bodies things generally work. i assume the "problem you
           are trying to solve" is something narrow and not "i am trying to
           understand everything about nikon lenses and bodies".
           \_ G lenses are not for digital bodies only.  The F6, for example,
              is a film body and it works with G lenses.  DX lenses, on the
              other hand, are for digital bodies only, because the image that
              they project only covers the size of Nikon's "DX format"
              (16mm x 24mm), i.e. the image sensor size in Nikon's current
              digital SLRs.  You can still use DX lenses on film bodies, but
              you'll get a vignetting effect because a 35mm film frame is
              24mm x 36mm.  (BTW, the upcoming D3 digital body will have a
              24mm x 36mm image sensor.)  --- yuen
              \- oh sorry, that;s right. the 3 series to concern yourself with
                 are D, DX and G. but best is to research hold the body to
                 a small set and concern yourself with a small set of lenses.
                 like if you dont even have a film camera, you dont haev to
                 researc the "partial functionality" of the DX zooms. [those
                 series refer to slightly different things. G refers to lens
                 design and D to focusing, so G lenses are D w.r.t. to metering
                 and such].
            \_ i agree that Nikon has made their lenses a lot more complicated
               than they should.  They should of stuck with the gun and
               be compatible with everything from AI and down.  Since I
               am an old school, I want two things:  1. all my lenses should be
               compatible with 135 frame size (e.g. full frame"  2. I want
               to be able to adjust aperature on the aperature ring on the lens
               Because I want these two things, I just avoid any DX or G lens.
               DX == APS frame size lens which would make lenses useless once
               the frame size increases in camera (e.g. D3).  G lenses doesn't
               have the mechanical aperature ring, which means you need to
               use camera's dial and buttons to adjust it. Nothing wrong with
               that per se, just that i find it less intuitive than the good
               old mechanical ring.
               Then again, Pentax is not exactly easy to figure out neither.
               what is the difference between K-, KA-, KAF-, KAF2 and regular
               "K" mount?                               kngharv
2007/8/23-27 [Science/GlobalWarming, Computer/Companies/Google] UID:47724 Activity:nil
8/23    how do i view a private livejournal RSS feed in Google Reader?
        \_ I've tried this, and I don't think you can.  Livejournal provides
           a couple of (pretty poor) mechanisms for feeds, but Google
           Reader does not (last I checked) support any form of authentication.
           I had a script set up to screen-scrape LJ, log in as me and spit
           out an rss feed, but it broke and I haven't had the energy to
           look into it.  -niloc
2007/8/23-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:47725 Activity:nil
8/23    Typoon 2001, and awesome free remake of the Atari Jaguar hit Tempest
        2000.  Currently Windows only.  Try it out , it's a really great game.
        http://typhoon.kuto.de/download.html
2007/8/23-27 [Consumer/Camera] UID:47726 Activity:nil
8/23    Nikon D80 for only $279.00 and $609.00. What's the catch?
        http://www.pricingdepot.com/compare.asp?item=25412
        \_ Too good to be true.  I only trust B&H and CameraWorld.
           \_ Check this out:
              http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Express_Cameras
              0.71 out of 10 baby!
              \_ "Cannon 30D was previously opened and entire contents smells
                 like cigarette smoke.
              \_ http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/priceritephoto-abusive-bait-
                 and-switch.html http://redirx.com/?7mel
                 "I will make sure you will never be able to place an
                 order on the internet again." "I'm an attorney, I will\
                sue you." "I will call the CEO of your company and play
                 him the tape of this phone call." "I'm going to call your
                 local police and have two officers come over and arrest
                 you." "You'd better get this through your thick skull."
                 "You have no idea who you are dealing with."
                 and-switch.html
                 http://redirx.com/?7mel
                 "I will make sure you will never be able to place an order on
                 the internet again." "I'm an attorney, I will
                 sue you." "I will call the CEO of your company and play him
                 the tape of this phone call." "I'm going to call your local
                 police and have two officers come over and arrest you." "You'd
                 better get this through your thick skull." "You have no idea
                 who you are dealing with."
                 I think you should refrain from ordering that camera.
                 \_ Damnit I was hoping to get a good deal. Guess I'll
                    keep surfing for good deals.
                 \_ thomashawk is kind of a nut.  But there are lots of
                    shady camera stores.  Buy from B&H.  -tom
        \_ I ordered it and it was cancelled within two hours as being
           "out of stock" but it is still listed on their site.
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47727 Activity:nil
8/23    why am i not getting laid?  goddamn you Andrea Dworkin.
2007/8/23-27 [Uncategorized] UID:47730 Activity:nil
8/23    Save the earth, kill the mooses!
        http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,501145,00.html
        \_ i guess this is better than motd dog guy
2007/8/23-27 [Health/Women, Health/Sleeping, Health/Men] UID:47731 Activity:low
8/23    what are SSRI?
        \_ Prozac, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Paxil, etc.
        \_ it's FDA approved as an anti-depressant, but like all medications
           out there this SSRIs have been prescribed for countless other
           uses as well.  It is not uncommon for SSRIs to be used for
           anxiety (public speaking, talking to women, stress),
           hyper-activity, sleep aid, LIBIDO SUPPRESSANT, shyness,
           OCD, etc. If you think you may need it, chances are it'll
           profoundly affect your life.
        \_ Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, etc.
        \_ I looked it up in wikipedia.  It looks like a family of anti-
           depressant drugs which can have the side effect of helping men
           who have premature ejaculation problems.  I didn't see anything
           in there about it being prescribed as the poster the other day
           was talking about but hey it's just a wiki article.
           \_ Most (all?) SSRI's are known for some percentage of users
              experiencing reduced libido.
              \_ Everything I know I learned from Wikipedia.  (Oh God, please
                 save me!)
                 \_ I wasn't quoting from Wikipedia.  I actually have
                    considerable background on the subject. -pp
                    \_ I know.  I wasn't saying your thing was wrong, I was
                       saying I really don't know what I'm talking about since
                       I'm only quoting WP.  It would be hard for someone to
                       know less than I do about it.
                       \_ Ah.  The Wikipedia article on SSRI's is actually
                          reasonably accurate and well-written.  Learning
                          is fun. :) -pp
2007/8/23-27 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Disease/General] UID:47732 Activity:nil
8/23    "Infectious diseases spreading faster than ever: U.N."
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070822/hl_nm/un_dc
        "It warned that global efforts to control infectious diseases have
        already been "seriously jeopardized" by widespread drug resistance,
        a consequence of poor medical treatment and misuse of antibiotics."
        \- one of the best non-fiction books i have read is THE COMING PLAGUE.
           \_ Second that--and I'll add it's by far the scariest book
              I have ever read.  That's including fiction.
        \_ But the housing bubble will kill us all before this ever happens!
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47733 Activity:low
8/23    I heard 'SUCK IT!' on TV the other day.  Is that legal now?
        \_ Was it ever not? -dans
           \_ SUCK what?
2007/8/23-27 [Academia, Academia/GradSchool] UID:47734 Activity:moderate
8/23    CS dudes you all suck and Phil Greenspun is here to tell you why.
        http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/08/23/improving-undergraduate-computer-science-education
        \_ That's an interesting reading of the link you posted.  Notably,
           there's not much new content here.  Not that I don't agree with
           some of his points, but Greenspun's been banging this drum for
           years. -dans
        \_ "The calendar was designed for rich families, [so they can have]
           Grand Tour of Europe during the summer" Wha?  The summer break was
           designed for farmers who needed the kids at home for harvest.
           Now people go on vacation during the summer because that's when the
           break is.  What a maroon.
           \_ Why would you want to be in the EU during summer?
           \_ Farmers did not begin sending their children to University in
              significant numbers until long after the University calendar
              and the semester system were chosen.  You seem to be conflating
              the University calendar with the public school calendar. -dans
              \_ Well, I'm assuming college inherited the calander from
                 secondary education.
                 \_ "calendar"
                    \_ "colander"
2007/8/23-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:47735 Activity:nil
8/23    how do you run firefox with extensions off ?
        \_ Use the "Mozilla Firefox (Safe Mode)" icon?
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47736 Activity:nil
8/23    You know, Lindsay Lohan's breasts just aren't that big.
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47737 Activity:nil
8/23    Screw you, g-d!
2007/8/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47738 Activity:nil
8/23    number of times today:  3, and it's only 11AM
2007/8/23-27 [Consumer/Camera] UID:47739 Activity:nil
8/23    While we're on the topic of Nikons, I'm really pissed about my
        new Nikkor 18-135mm lense. When I bought my Nikkor 18-135mm for
        only $330 I thought I was getting an awsome deal, only to find
        out that it has pretty much the *same* view angle as my vintage
        1977 SLR with a newer Sigma 28-85mm lens. Why did they advertise
        it as 18-135mm when it is not? This is really misleading. Does
        Canon do the same thing?
        \_ http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Optical/Focal_Length_01.htm
2007/8/23-24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:47740 Activity:high Entry has been invalidated. Access denied.
2007/8/23-27 [Health] UID:47741 Activity:low
8/23    DAY ONE OF NO MORE PR0N
        \_ Remember, SSRI calms you down and helps you suppress your
           urges. If you fail, go to your doctor and ask for SSRI.
        \_ You're going to purge the net?
           \_ WHERE DO I GET THIS SSRI STUFF?
              \_ Ask your doctor if Cymbalta is right for you!
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