Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2006:October:20 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2006/10/20-23 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:44878 Activity:nil
10/20 (
        Super-moron Krauthammer confirms his "special" status
        "The nuclear Japan card remains the only one that carries even the
        remote possibility of reversing North Korea's nuclear program."
        \_ Heh.  "Super-moron".  Again with the lefties who dismiss people by
           calling them dumb.  Can't you guys learn a new trick?
           \_ How about this: Flip-flopping cut-and-runner Krauthammer....
              \_ Ah, this is your knee-jerk about what righties say?
           \_ Don't let me spoonfeed it to you.  C'mon.
2006/10/20-24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:44879 Activity:nil
        'Kim told the Chinese delegation that "he is sorry about the nuclear
         test," the newspaper reported.'
        Why do I get the impression that this is a load of bollocks?
        \_ "I'm sorry you're pissed off"
        \_ Why would you trust what he says?
           \_ I wouldn't. I also highly doubt that he said that. It reeks of
              PRC propaganda. You know, the highly scripted attempts at
              impromptu speech that totalitarian media hacks are so very, very
              bad at.
              \_ it's more interesting to think that China can say "Kim Jong
                 Il eats shit and enjoys it", and NK won't do much
        \_ because Kim knows that China is about to throw a big party and
           not in the mood to do anything spoiling the mood (such as having
           3-4 million N.Korean flood across YaLue river and later claim
           that part of China NorthEast part of Korea Proper).   Don't worry
           though, China is not going to take this kind of crap from its
           protectorate.  China will deal with N.Korea when it is time.
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44880 Activity:nil
10/20   Flying Spaghetti Monster Costume for Halloween:
        \_ This is going to spawn violent Pastafarian riots worldwide.
        \_ Oh no!  This is going to spawn violent Pastafarian riots worldwide.
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44881 Activity:nil
10/20   Under the Tusken Sun:
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44882 Activity:nil
10/20   Review of Double Agent: (
        \_ Awesome.  Exploding sticky cams!  I am really looking forward to
           this game.
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44883 Activity:nil
10/20   Negative index of refraction is k3wl: (
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44884 Activity:nil
10/20   Lightroom Beta 4 updated:
2006/10/20-23 [Reference/Military] UID:44885 Activity:nil
        Army Ranger Kevin Tillman (discharged '05), brother of Pat Tillman,
        both of whom signed up because of 9/11, writes about Pat's b-day.
        \_ another Democratic conspiracy !
           \_ This thread has been pulled. Anyone archived it?
              \_ there wasn't much anyway.  threads like this don't generate
                 many freeper posts.
           \_ It has been censored.
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44886 Activity:nil
10/20   I want a sample of a clicking sound, or of the sound of skateboard
        wheels on pavement, and of a whooshing noise.  Is there a free library
        somewhere of such things?  It doesn't have to be fancy, and it's not
        going to end up in anything commercial.
        \_ YouTube
2006/10/20-23 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:44887 Activity:nil
10/20   Why do government officials waste time to travel to and back from
        foreign countries to meet with their counterparts where there is
        something to discuss?  E.g. Rice to Beijing, Tang Jiaxuan to Pyongyang.
        Why don't they just install some advanced video conference equipment?
        That would save a lot of time, and I think time is an essence during a
        political crisis.
        \_ Photo ops--but having worked with remote groups, I can say from
           experience that face-to-face is much different from (and better than)
           experience that face-to-face is much different from (and better
           than) teleconferencing.
        \_ Also, it signals how seriously someone is about something.
        \_ more than that.  A lot of it is negotiation.  in a negotiation,
           body languages and other non-verbal ques are very very important.
        \_ much of the time, the real work is carried out by diplomatic staff
           in the foreign country under specific guidelines from the home
           country.  thus, the deal is made BEFORE the big wigs come for the
           photo-op.  so yes, the head honchos travel ... for the photo-op,
           and the photo-op's definite geopolitical effects.  they don't come
           if there is no deal, thus saving time.
2006/10/20-24 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44888 Activity:nil
10/20   Economic Hypochondriacs?  (George Will)
2006/10/20-24 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:44889 Activity:nil
        House Appropriations chair, himself under investigation, fires all 60
        contract employees who had been tasked with investigating government
        waste/fraud, leaving 16 perm staff
        \_ Ah the new Republican "don't ask, don't tell" policy re:
2006/10/20-24 [Computer/HW, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:44890 Activity:nil
10/20   My Gnome Desktop makes lots of noises at me.  I rarely know where
        they are coming from (filtered mail I don't see maybe?).  Is there
        some (way to set up a) sound log that I can check to see which app
        fired off which sound file at time X, or anything like that ?
2006/10/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:44891 Activity:nil
10/20   Mannequins want to be free: (
2006/10/20-24 [Uncategorized] UID:44892 Activity:nil
10/20   The YouTube copyright smackdown has started:
        \_ And there go 60% of the interesting videos on YouTube.
2006/10/20-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:44893 Activity:nil
10/20   I have a free extra ticket to the cal game tomorrow in the young
        alum if you want it
2006/10/20-23 [Computer/Networking] UID:44894 Activity:nil
10/19   I installed openVPN here at work as our VPN solution for now but
        the Mac's have real issues with DNS. They basically don't pick up
        the internal DNS server after connecting. Anyone know the solution
        to that one or know of a better VPN solution for macs?
        \_ Does it have to be SSL-based?  Is commercial an option?  Do you
           need HA?  Is this for roving clients or working at home?  How
           many?  What kind of traffic?  Some more detail would help.  If
           you can do ipsec, I'd look at FreeS/WAN or KAME if you need it
           to be free.  Otherwise M0n0wall has a pretty good OpenVPN
           implementation and does PPTP as well as ipsec VPNs, with good docs
           on site-to-site VPNs for a number of manufacturers (PIX, VPN-1,
           Nortel and others.)  -John
2006/10/20-24 [Industry/Startup, Finance/Investment] UID:44895 Activity:moderate
10/19   Ok it's REALLY time to short GOOG   -not the original short guy
        \_ On 10/19 (when you wanted to short GOOG), GOOG's stock price
           was 420.23 at the start of that day.  It closed on 10/19 at
           426.06.  It opened on 10/20 at 458.99.  Closed on 10/20 at
           So assuming that you actually want to make money instead of losing
           money, I'd say that the answer to your question is this:
           ABSOLUTELY NOT.
        \_ Is this you? Price was around $420
        \_ (
        \_ Why would you short a company that just reported outstanding
           revenue and earnings growth?  -tom
           \_ Shorting isn't my thing but in general because they get 99% of
              their revenue from ads which could dry up overnight for any
              number of reasons.  There is more to evaluating a company than
              \_ Are you also suggesting shorting all the TV networks?
                 I don't think there's any likelihood that Google's ad
                 revenue dries up in the short term; they are clearly the
                 dominant force in Internet advertising and there is no
                 credible challenger.
                 More to the point, if your concern is that Google's ad
                 revenue may dry up, why was that not true when the stock
                 was at 100, 200, 300, 400?  Why get in the way of a frieght
                 train *now*?  -tom
                 \_ The TV networks have an age old and somewhat predictable
                    ad model.  The internet is not TV.  It's only barely got
                    off the ground.  So it went from IPO 80ish to 400+.  Past
                    performance, especially something like the stock value,
                    does not in any way guarantee future performance.  In 98
                    everyone thought it was a New Economy and "all the old
                    rules are broken!  Its the Intarweeb ya know!"  Anyway, no,
                    I have never traded nor would ever trade google.  They hide
                    too much information to make an informed decision about
                    their true value.
                    \_ My point is not that Google will go up indefinitely;
                       it's that shorting should be done of companies with
                       it's that shorting should be done to companies with
                       significant, identifiable business problems, not
                       companies making gobs of money and growing rapidly.
                       It is virtually impossible for a common investor to
                       time the turn of a market or a stock correctly.  -tom
                          But yes, I do agree that one should not try to time
                          an individual stock ever or the market in general.
                          Trying to time a secretive company like google would
                          be financially suicidal.  Their stock price will
                          continue to rise... until it doesn't.  Once the "it
                          is google!  it is the New Economy Intarweeb!" shine
                          rubs off, their stock will plummet and drop back to
                          something reasonable, but no one can say day that
                          will be.  It could be next quarter, it could be
                          years.  Check out the link, it describes internet
                          ad business's time bomb waiting to go off.
                          \_ For me, the scariest thing about Google isn't
                             their business model but their approach to
                             "managing" their engineers - and I use those
                             quotation marks wisely.  -!tom
                             \_ How so?  It isn't all that different from a lot
                                of other companies created in that time.
                                \_ Yeah and most of them have failed. The
                                   no management approach to management might
                                   be appropriate for a startup, but I just
                                   don't see how a company of 5000 can
                                   operate that way.
                                   \_ Most of them failed for business reasons.
                                      Their engineers mostly created all sorts
                                      of amazingly cool stuff.  Don't blame
                                      lack of engineer skill or dedication for
                                      the dotcom bust.
                                      \_ Believe me, I don't. I blame bad
                                         management and insane financial
                                         expectations. But aren't these
                                         exactly Google's problems now?
                             \_ Please explain.
2006/10/20-23 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44896 Activity:nil
10/20   Johnson's successful campaign ad for the 1964 presidential election
        New GOP commercial (under "Top Story")
        \- the '64 tv comercial is super famous ... enough to have its own
           wikipedia entry.
           hmm, i never noticed the WHAUDEN line.
        \_ Response.
           You know the trouble with this GOP administration is that
           the things I hate about them have little to nothing to do with
           traditional left vs. right political issues. That's why I don't
           even think that matters anymore at the federal level.
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