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2005/7/27-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:38847 Activity:low
7/27    http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/07/27/game.lawsuit.ap/index.html
        What a dumb bitch.
        \_ She's a bitch regardless, but only dumb if she can't win.
        \_ I remember back when Tipper Gore and the PMRC were pulling all their
           idiotic shenanigans over explicit song lyrics.  Remember when Dee
           Snyder and Frank Zappa came in and made them all look stupid?  Where
           are the heroic game designer equivalents of those musicians?
           Who will reveal Hillary Clinton and Orrin Hatch to be the
           grandstanding tools that they are?
           \_ I haven't seen anything by Hatch, what did he say?
              \_ Sigh.  Google Orrin Hatch video games.  Like the War On Drugs,
                 the War On Indecent Anything is a bipartisan fallacy.  All
                 politicians love to grandstand.
           \_ Well I like how the article never mentions the obvious, uh what's
              the right phrase here? anyway that the game was already rated
              "Mature (17+)" and these idiots are buying it for kids. And they
              are so concerned about essentially harmless sex scenes that a kid
              cannot see without specifically looking for how to access it and
              then using a 3rd party patch/tool, whereas with far less effort
              he can type "lolitas" into google, or whatever, and furthermore
              they couldn't care less about the game's extreme violence. Fuck
              'em.
           \_
         Sen. Danforth:  "There is nothing on the face of the album which would
           notify you if the record has pornographic material or
           material glorifying violence?"
         Tipper Gore:    "No, there is nothing that would suggest that to me."
         Frank Zappa:    "I would say that a buzz saw blade between the guy's
           legs on the album cover is good indication that it's
           not for little Johnny."
           -- The Senate Commerce Committee hearing on rock
              lyrics, from The Village Voice, 6 Oct 1985
        \_ Have you at least played through 50% of the game?
           Don't tell me, "I haven't but I know what's going on Hillary's a
           dumb bitch!!1!" or "I only saw it at a friend's house".
           \_ No, Hillary is a very smart and venal bitch. -- ilyas
              \_ as opposed to dubya being ...
                 \_ I am sorry what does this entire thread have to do with
                    Bush? -- ilyas
        \_ fyi hot coffee video for proper background
           http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2673401
                    \_ by presenting one fact without another highly related
                       fact, there is the perception of misleading information.
                       For example, the statement, "The CIA's judgment is that
                       there are no WMDs in Iraq" is true.  However, you
                       need to specify also, "But at the time Dubya made
                       the decision, the CIA's judgement was there were WMDs
                       in Iraq".  Withou the 2nd sentence, there is the
                       perception of misleading information ... an incomplete
                       picture not including critical elements.
                       It's what lawyers do everyday anyway.
                       \_ But that's not what pp said.  He brought up Bush
                          because I said a Bad Thing about Hillary. -- ilyas
                          \_ That's 'cause we all know you're a BUSH LOVER,
                             ilya.
                             \_ Yes, I am apparently an administration
                                apologist. -- ilyas
                                \_ Yes. Motd says you are. Now go stand in the
                                   corner and hang your head in shame.  -motd
           \_ Actually yes, I have. What is your point? I was actually
              referring to the old woman plaintiff but as for Hillary I'm
              gonna go with ilyas' assessment. GTA is definitely a "mature"
              game but it has nothing on a lot of R rated movies. For example
              the movie "Colors".
              \_ being able to control my rate of screwing and vary my sexual
                 positions among 5 different virtual girlfriends while viewing
                 it with sound effects in an MA+-rated product from arguably
                 the most popular software publisher (Rockstar) using an
                 easily downloadable and well-known activation mod is
                 revolutionary (not to mention the simulated oral sex)!
                 \_ You should sue women for having hidden sexual body parts.
        \_ fyi hot coffee video for proper background
           http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2673401
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www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/07/27/game.lawsuit.ap/index.html
NEW YORK (AP) -- A woman upset that she bought the video game "Grand Thef t Auto: San Andreas" for her 14-year-old grandson without knowing it con tained hidden, sexually explicit scenes sued the manufacturer Wednesday on behalf of consumers nationwide. She sought unspecified damages on behalf of herself and all consumers nat ionwide, saying the company should give up its profits from the game for what amounted to false advertising, consumer deception and unfair busin ess practices. Cohen said in the suit that she bought the game in late 2004 for her gran dson when it was rated "M" for mature, for players 17 and older. Accordi ng to the suit, she directed that it be taken away from her grandson, wh ich was done. After a storm of neg ative publicity about the hidden scenes, the Entertainment Software Rati ngs Board, an industry group responsible for rating games, changed the r ating to "AO" for adults only. Laurence D Paskowitz, the lawyer who filed the lawsuit on behalf of Cohe n, said no parent would knowingly buy an adult-only video game for their children. "They should really make sure this doesn't happen again," he said. Hidden areas in video games that can be unlocked with special codes or mo difications are not uncommon. Take Two Interactive initially said the scenes were not part of the retai l version of the game but later admitted they were. A message left for a company spokesman was not immediately returned. On T uesday, Take-Two announced that it had been notified by the Federal Trad e Commission's Division of Advertising Practices that it was conducting an inquiry into the game's advertising claims. The company said it planned to cooperate fully with the probe. "Rockstar Games and Take Two Interactive regret that consumers may have b een exposed to content that was not intended to be accessible in the pla yable version of 'Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas'," it said in a statemen t The company said it had halted production of the game in the controversia l form and was working on a version of the game without the hidden sexua l content. "Going forward, the company will refine the process by which it edits gam es and will enhance the protection of its game code to prevent such futu re modifications," it said. Earlier this week, the House voted 355-21 for a resolution asking the FTC to investigate the company. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N ew York, asked the FTC to investigate Rockstar, saying the company had " gamed the ratings system" by concealing sex scenes in the game that can be unlocked by computer programs available on the Internet. have pulled the game -- last year's top-seller among console games -- from their shelves following the rating change.
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