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| 2007/11/1-2 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:48505 Activity:kinda low |
11/1 "I surely hope those Americans who renamed French fries into freedom
fries and then those Americans who poured perfectly good French wine
down their drains, I hope they realize what foolishness that was."
http://www.csua.org/u/jvh (Yahoo News)
\_ Isn't French fries actually "french fries" which has nothing to do
with the country France?
\_ Isn't French fries actually "french fries" and doesn't it have
nothing to do with the country France?
\_ "frenched fries" -> "french fries".
To french a vegtable is to cut it in matchsticks.
\_ Or kiss it with lots of tongue.
\_ Oui.
\_ why couldn't they just call them 'chips' like the brits do.
\_ Because in the US chips = crisps. You'd have to change 2
words. I think just 'fries' would have been fine tho'.
\_ I just call them 'fries' |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Uncategorized] UID:48506 Activity:nil |
10/31 http://financialpetition.org Petition against mortgage bailouts and SIV off-balance-sheet entities |
| 2007/11/1 [Reference/History/WW2] UID:48507 Activity:nil |
11/1 Guys, WW2 is over. Move on man. |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Finance/Investment] UID:48508 Activity:nil |
11/1 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/01citi-web.html C with potential $30bn capital shortfall. Heads of structured credit and CDO groups fired. Tangible capital ratio at 2.8%. Outlook poor as MBS/CDO positions deteriorate. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pension31oct31,1,699259,full.story C takes over $400-million pension fund |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:48509 Activity:nil |
11/1 What version of Linux/Unix does Samba test on before releasing
to the public? |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:48510 Activity:low 66%like:48477 |
11/1 Ride bike!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex126.xml
\_ Ok, why is sex with bike illegal?
\_ Lots of things are illegal in England.
\_ "Sexual breach of the peace". Sounds like almost anything
sexual could be considered breach of the peace.
\_ I guess Fleshlight and RealDoll are all banned in the UK. |
| 2007/11/1-4 [Uncategorized] UID:48511 Activity:low |
11/1 ABK, MBI, MTG, PMI, bond and mortgage insurers, off 11-20% today
(down 50-75% off 52-week highs). Buy buy buy! (and Bomb Iran!)
Good thing many fund managers get their bonuses based on quarterly
results that ended on Oct 31!
\_ Nice 7-bagger on my puts, thanks
\_ My puts are a 7 banger now!
\_ Next time you buy some puts, tell the motd so we can all share.
\_ Try http://www.cakefinancial.com |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Uncategorized] UID:48512 Activity:nil |
11/1 hey motd not getting laid guy, it must be day 500 or something.
have you succeeded? |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:48513 Activity:moderate |
11/1 hi i'm too cheap to purchase Visio. What's an alternative?
\_ inkscape
\_ Some people use MS Paint.
\_ bit-torrent it
\_ MS Word.
\_ MS Word. It's good enough for simple diagrams.
\_ OpenOffice Draw is better.
\_ OmniGraffle |
| 2007/11/1-5 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:48514 Activity:moderate |
11/1 Gaza. West Bank. Good bye.
\_ yet another example of failed colonization (YES colonization,
where the government actually encouraged Israeli settlers to
move into the newly acquired land after 1967).
\_ But colonization is one of the best ways to hold territory.
I read it in The Prince, so it has to be true.
\_ What. Are you. Talking about.
\_ No. Good riddens. I totally support Israel's unilateral
disengagement plan. Instead of pouring countless resources
into military and security outposts in and out of Arab land
now can relax and watch the Arabs kill each other from afar.
As for all those the Arab Qassam rockets that are being fired
into Israel, well, better that than precision suicide bombers
on the homeland.
\_ Does this mean Isreal is finally going to abandon all the
\_ Does this mean Israel is finally going to abandon all the
settlements deep in Palestinian territory? If so, this is
the best news for the region in 20 years.
\_ If they do, do you expect the Palestinians to stop lobbing
rockets into Israel? If they continue firing rockets, what
do you think Israel should do about it?
\_ They're going to bomb the hell out of them. -!pp
\_ They are lobbing rockets into Israel from the West Bank? |
| 2007/11/1-6 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Industry/Startup] UID:48515 Activity:high |
11/1 Intelligient writeup of Google's OpenSocial platform by Marc
Andreesen: http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/10/open-social-a-n.html
I got a chance to start working with OpenSocial before the public
release as part of my job at Slide, and it's been a pleasure to work
with. If you're looking for an interesting new platform to hack on,
I'd suggest giving OpenSocial a look. Incidentally, Slide is hiring.
Shoot me an email if you're interested in working for Slide. -dans
\_ You are advertising well: "come work with that motd idiot."
\_ Clearly, since you think I'm an idiot, you don't want to work
with me. Since you lack the courage or the common courtesy to
stand behind your opinion by signing your name I don't want to
work with you. Aww, the feeling is mutual. It's like we're
bonding! -dans
\_ I think you're an idiot, I don't want to work with you,
and I'll sign my name. -tom
\_ No offense tom but I'd rather work with dans. At least
there's a chance of getting IPO and getting laid.
\_ Don't all those hot UCB co-eds want to get laid?
\_ not to old grumpy sysadms.
\_ "hot UCB co-eds" is an oxymoron
\_ Come to Carnegie Mellon, where you won't find anyth\
ing if you don't speak Korean. -jeffwong
\_ Come to Carnegie Mellon, where you won't find
anything if you don't speak Korean. -jeffwong
\_ Exactly, there are no hot blondes.
\_ http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=733919
\_ I forgot about our pole vaulter, but I'll
admit some exceptions. That girl who posed
for Playboy was hot. A dozen hot girls
among 13K ugrad coeds doesn't cut it, though.
\_ Karen was and is hot. -dans
\_ HAve you snuck her into a bar yet?
\_ I'm pretty sure she's of age, and,
even if she wasn't, I don't see how
it would be my place to do that.
-dans
\_ Seriously, we should call a truce and have a beer one of
these days and see if we still think of each other so
poorly. -dans
\_ You don't come across better in person, imo. -- ilyas
\_ For once I agree with ilyas.
\_ Ouch!
\_ Ditto. -dans
\_ You come across worse in person.
\_ My friends disagree. -dans
\_ That's selection bias. -- ilyas
\_ P.S. The "motd idiot" is one of the principal authors of an
application that, according to current public estimates,
has over 12.5M users. The M is for millions, not the roman
\_ Update: 12.75M
numeral M. -dans
\_ I thought it was 12.5 Male users, which would be about
right.
\_ Everyone is hiring.
\_ Not everyone has anywhere near the reach of Slide:
http://www.quantcast.com/top-sites-1
I should further note, that just counting web site visitors
lowballs our numbers spectacularly.
-dans
\_ you: http://www.quantcast.com/slide.com/traffic
competitor: http://www.quantcast.com/rockyou.com/traffic
They have more page views, and more views per visit which
means they're "stickier" than slide. Mmmmm, fun with
\_ Actually we went to great pains to make
http://Slide.com *less* sticky. If you actually
understood what we do, then you'd
understand why that's a smart move. -dans
\_ I've never heard of a business model
where users going away is a good thing.
Seriously, best of luck to you and your
company. Done here.
\_ Slide makes embeddable content.
Create -> Embed -> Repeat. Note that
our embeddable content feeds people
back to the site. You're right, you
are done here since you clearly don't
understand what you're talking about.
-dans
statistics!
\_ You should re-read the data. Actually we have more page
views globally, double the uniques in the US and over
20M more uniques globally then they do. We have also
managed to soundly trounce them on every platform where we
have competed. You're right, statistics are fun! -dans
\_ we are SO impressed that you work for the 400,000th
Friendster clone, and that you think you're beating
the 399,999th Friendster clone. Woo. -tom
\_ Slide is not a social network. And hey, we're only
bigger than Digg. And Craigstlist. And http://cnn.com.
bigger than Digg. And Craigslist. And http://cnn.com.
But, yeah, you're right. It's probably just a
gimmick. -dans
gimmick. Update: we dipped below Craigslist again.
Bummer. -dans
\_ You had me going for a while until you said you
were bigger than Craigslist. I believe you are
now talking out of your ass.
\_ Believe what you like; the numbers don't lie.
-dans
\_ Bigger is a funny word. In what way are you
bigger than Craigslist, for example? They have
been making oodles of raw cash for years with a
tiny staff and nearly no hardware. They have a
proven business model. What's yours?
\_ Apply to work here, and, if we're interested,
we'll bring you in to sign an NDA and you can
find out. I mean, hey, we were only founded
by the former CTO of PayPal, and he clearly
\_ PayPal sucks
has no idea what he's doing. -dans
\_ PayPal is a very political company and
most of the original engineers became
disgruntled and started their own company
... it's called YouTube. Read some of
their employee's blogs on their former
employee, PayPal. In short it's
hardly impressive and mostly crap.
\_ URL? I would like to read these blogs.
\_ Yeah, YouTube is a PayPal cabal company.
It was funded by the Founder's Fund,
which is run by Peter Thiel, the founder
and former CEO of PayPal who recruited
Max to be the CTO of PayPal. Slide is
funded in part by the Founder's Fund.
Ditto for Yelp, and a bunch of other
PayPal cabal companies. You may not
find the engineering challenges that
PayPal solved to be impressive, but then
I suspect you don't really understand
what PayPal is at it's core. Yes,
PayPal does payment processing, but
that's not the interesting or
challenging part of the business.
Fundamentally, PayPal is a
risk-management company, and there are
some pretty cool problems to be solved
there. Also, I find it amusing that you
write off a company that had a 1.5B
liquidity event as crap. -dans
\_ I think Youtube guy is engaged to
the daughter of the Netscape/SGI
guy
\_ Their business model is to sell advertising
through their widgets which users of friendster
clones add to their profiles. I find the
thing plausible but questionable given
that they don't really own the space they are
playing in and the widgets are dispensable/
interchangeable. How valuable is having an
ad on that stuff and how do you measure it?
How much would users or the host sites put
up with? I'm not in that industry so, shrug.
\_ Oh, that's our business model. Thanks for
enlightening me. -dans
\_ Oh. So that's our business model. Thanks
for enlightening me. -dans
\_ You could have just looked at:
http://www.slide.com/advertise
But hey, glad I could help.
\_ It's cute how you see that and assume
to have complete knowledge of our
business model. -dans
\_ I don't understand why you have a
secret business model. Is it the
slave trade? Drugs? Small arms?
\_ So I used to believe that
running everything out in the
open was the smartest way to run
a company. Working at Slide has
made me reconsider that.
Sometimes there's value to be
had in playing things more close
to the vest. -dans
\_ So the advertising program is
just a sham? I don't assume to
have complete knowledge of it.
I don't really understand how
youtube or imageshack make $$$.
I run adblock so maybe I miss
things sometimes. Anyway, the
advertising is obviously part of
the model at least. Aren't all
these companies based on ads?
Isn't that why you care about
page views? I can't see anyone
paying to use these widgets.
Really though I was trolling
you for information.
\_ Of course the advertising is
part of it. -dans
\_ Here's the fun part you missed out on because you think
these numbers are either accurate or mean something:
this is just a statistics game. The numbers don't
mean anything. Here's something that does for those
looking to get some startup money: your company has
over 120 people on staff these days, right? Your
competitor has about 20, right? When/if each company
sells, someone hired at your company now will have a
much smaller option package than your competitor.
They can sell for half as much as yours (unlikely) and
still make individual employees more money in the
transaction. Like I said, fun with statistics, which
btw yours are wrong. You: global views: 542,034,086
Them: 635,964,222. And as I said, your stickiness is
way lower. Uniques are just people who signed up and
went away. But I guess you have to find something to
hang your hat on.
this is just a statistics game. The numbers don't mean
anything. Here's something that does for those looking
to get some startup money: your company has over 120
people on staff these days, right? Your competitor has
\_ That's an interesting number. You can look on our
website to see if we've publicized the actual
number. I can't disclose it under the terms of my
NDA. -dans
\_ Uhm whatever.
\_ Um, yeah. Stop making shit up. -dans
about 20, right? When/if each company sells, someone
hired at your company now will have a much smaller
option package than your competitor. They can sell for
\_ Funny I explained precisely this to my last friend I
recruited. Our grants are still big enough to be
worthwhile. Also, you have a bunch of facts wrong
regarding both Slide and our closest competitor.
-dans
\_ Ok, correct me. What are the facts? And if
yours are 'worthwhile' your smaller competitor's
should be 'more than merely worthwhile', yes?
\_ If you apply, you can sign an NDA and all
shall be revealed. -dans
only half as much as yours (unlikely) and still make
individual employees more money in the transaction.
Like I said, fun with statistics, which btw yours are
wrong. You: global views: 542,034,086 Them:
635,964,222. And as I said, your stickiness is way
lower. Uniques are just people who signed up and went
away. But I guess you have to find something to hang
your hat on.
\_ Actually those are the public numbers. I could also
point you to Alexa numbers which are, compared to
Quantcast, crap. Unfortunately, I can't point to
our internal numbers, as they are way more accurate,
alas, that's privileged information. -dans
\_ Ok, again, you're missing the core concept here.
I'll try again. Slowly. These numbers don't
mean anything. You could have 10x or 1000000x
those numbers. It would mean nothing. I'm
curious: were you working during the last dotcom
round in the 90s to 2001 or so? We believed all
sorts of crazy shit then, too.
\_ No, I think you're the one misssing the point,
which is that when enough people use a
company's products every day, you have to
acknowledge that maybe there's more to it than
just hype. For the record, I came out here in
'97. I dropped out of Berkeley in '99 to
start a company, and closed a $500K angel
round literally months before the bubble
burst. That company cratered, but it was a
valuable learning experience. -dans
\_ people used http://pets.com and webvan, too.
\_ How many people used them? I seriously
doubt either one ever got anywhere near
our size. Also, we don't have the
overhead of shipping 50 pound bags of
dog food or running a shipping fleet.
-dans |
| 2007/11/1-5 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:48516 Activity:moderate |
11/1 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/31/BAUIT3FBN.DTL&tsp=1 "Each car costs about $15,000 to convert. The program is being funded by the California Energy Commission and the state Air Resources Board." God damn idiots. \_ Dude it's a test. Those things cost more. Moving to all electrical power means you have centralized power production. Which means less waste, less emissions and less spillage. (If you fill up a tank of gas and spill a few drops that's as much pollution as burning the whole thing given our good smog regulations.) In the scheme of things 10 cars at 15k each is nothing. Start caring about stuff that matters. \_ laugh.. batteries are the dirtiest things on the planet it also takes a lot of energy to make batteries, to make eletricity, tons of nasty chemicals to make computer chips to control these things. \_ Can you point me to research on the effects of batteries and chips in aggregate vs. the effects of fossil fuels in aggregate? It's a nice bit of devil's advocacy there, but where's the beef? -dans \_ Chips? Or Crisps? Or French Fries? \_ Freedom Fries \_ That's a huge cost. There are much more cost-effective ways to reduce emissions. There's no reason to test this, it's nothing new: it's just using really expensive batteries. Total waste. It's 100 cars, not 10. How about just simply buying modern, cost-effective, efficient small cars with conventional diesel technology? Offer people high trade-in deals for their old polluting cars. \_ No, it's not a huge cost. Seriously. The tests are expensive. The batteries are expensive. Tech goes down in price. And read the article. 10 cars. 100 families. 8 weeks each. \_ Ok fine, I didn't see that. Still an utter waste of effort if you ask me. What will we learn from this program? Why should CA funds be used for this rather than say Toyota's? \_ Because it is in California's long range interest. As I said, the money involved is pretty damn minor. Start actually looking at what is spent where and start caring about things that actually matter. Let me give you a hint. In general state funded grants are a benefit to society. \_ Really? Where do I sign up for my grant? I would like to benefit society. \_ You welcome to write all the grant applications you want. However you'd better have a good explanation of what the money will be spent on, as grant fraud is frowned upon. Oh wait, you are just talking out of your ass aren't you? \_ Gee being frowned upon would be horrible. Anyway, I'd like to hereby frown upon this hybrid grant. \_ I frown upon your frowning upon their frowning upon the general frowning upon. \_ Grant proposal to give me lots of cash to provide benefits to society: You (the gvt) give me (the recipient) lots of other people's money you don't care about (tax payers) to live a life of luxury and slack. Goal: one less grumpy tax payer. Improvement to society is lessening of grumpiness among citizens. Why do you think my grant proposal requires me to commite fraud? You're so cynical. commit fraud? You're so cynical. \_ for that same extra $15k you could buy a small electric NEV like say Xebra to use instead of the prius for 'short trips'. And then still have the prius. \_ Yes, if the tech never gets cheaper than $15k it will never be a real solution. However the tech WILL get cheaper than $15k. \_ or 100 cheap bikes! And none of them would use any gas or electricity at all. RIDE BIKE!!! \_ You're an anti-environmental terrorist! If you truly cared about the environment you wouldn't ride a bike. You'd walk. Do you have any idea how much energy went into designing, marketing, producing, and shipping your bike? Then there will be repairs and the entire industry behind the spare parts mill. And then you'll eventually get a new one and the cycle of death continues! If you loved this planet you would walk. \_ Are you walking bare-foot, or are you walking with shoes and socks that also required energy for designing, marketing, producing, and shipping? \_ Duh, no of course not. That's why your feet will get tougher over a short period of time. Before the modern era you think cavemen wore Nike's? Sheesh, get over your big bad modern environmentally destructive self. Ride Bike! if you want to rape the Earth. USE FEET! if you're at one with the planet's life energies. \_ everyone already has shoes and clothing so it's an overlap \_ The more you walk, the faster the shoes wear out. -- PP \_ ditto with bikes but less parts to repair \_ But which one costs less per mile? \_ probably the bike, if you're trying to optimize for cost/resource saving. A cheesy racing bike is expensive to maintain, but a good touring bike is quite cheap. -tom \_ earth hater. \_ The more you live, the faster you will die. \_ the more you drive, the less intelligent you are. - Miller, the Repo Man. \_ http://www.edrivesystems.com has been building the same thing. \_ yes, but in Los Angeles. \_ yes, but ONLY in Los Angeles. |
| 2007/11/1 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:48517 Activity:nil |
11/1 West Bank belongs to Israel!!! |
| 2007/11/1-3 [Reference/Military] UID:48518 Activity:high |
11/1 Human Weapons, Kung Fu, this Friday night. Don't miss it!!!
\_ If the show is treating Kung Fu as a single discipline like Karate
or Thai boxing, it's not worth watching.
or Jujitsu, it's not worth watching.
\_ What do you mean by discipline here? It's not like there's only
only style of Karate of Jujitsu either.
only style of Karate or Jujitsu either. Although, of course,
Kung Fu is much more diverse than either of those.
\_ Human Weapon has lost me ever since I was watching a few minutes
and the wrestler in the pancreation ep. was saying he had to be
careful or he might smash his opponent's nose, sending bone fragments
into his brain, killing him. that just doesn't happen.
careful or he might smash his opponent's nose, sending bone
fragments into his brain, killing him. that just doesn't happen.
\_ A wrestler said something stupid? Say it ain't so! |
| 2007/11/1-2 [Recreation/Food] UID:48519 Activity:moderate |
11/1 I'm the feeling tired after beating-off guy #2. I've been avoiding
wheat + dairy and have been on mostly rice + soy diet for almost
2 wks and I still feel really tired after beating-off. I don't think
wheat gluten and cassein cause tiredness. The good thing is that
I've lost about 2 pounds in the process.
\_ WHAT. NO. I am really tired after eating guy. Fucker.
\_ WHAT. NO. I am really tired after beating-off guy. Fucker.
get your own handle.
\_ Alright fine. I'm #2 -op
\_ Maybe you are in early stages of diabetes. Especially if you
pee more than usual. -- ilyas |
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