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| 2005/9/19-21 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:39746 Activity:nil |
9/18 I just installed Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1 and everything
seems to work ok except my httpd cannot be reached outside
of the box. I have no problem pinging and sshing into the
system, but http connection would not work. However, it does
seem to work when I launch firefox within (same machine).
What could cause this? I'm not familiar with PAM and I'm
wondering if that's the culprit, and how I can check/fix it. Thanks.
\_ PAM is a system for authentication and has nothing to do with httpd
(barring certain login mechanisms, but that's another story). Your
problem sounds like a firewall issue. You probably need to poke a
hole in RedHat's default firewall to allow inbound connections to
whatever port httpd is running on (probably 80 if it's started on
boot or 8080 if you start it manually, but it's configurable). -gm
\_ I'm going to guess you're a fucking idiot, but that's just a
guess.
\_ U = teh ghei. Check firewall rules, and whether the listening
addresses in httpd.conf are correct. -John
\_ Yes I'm an idiot, I've never done this before. So where do I
configure firewalls? What files?
\_ Ignore dim, he's just some out-to-lunch math guy at JPL.
\_ I apologize for my harsh language. I had a bad day
yesterday. I think RH 2.1 still uses ipchains, but it might
use iptables. Look to see which one you are running, if any. You
can do this with '/sbin/chkconfig --list'. Post your findings.
\_ Ok I looked up and it's due to ipchains. I tried to correct
it by "ipchains -A input -s 0.0.0.0/0 http -p TCP -j ACCEPT"
and other crap and after about 35 minutes fiddling and
reading horribly written man-pages without a godamn simple
example, I just turned it off. /etc/init.d/ipchains stop
did wonders. I'm just learning so I don't really care about
firewalls. People need to learn to WTFM (write the fucking
manpage) better. And btw you're a mean, mean guy, dim. You
almost made me cry. -op
\_ There are some good examples and tutorials online. Would
you like links to some? -John
\_ yeah yeah, please! Thank you John! -op, newbie
\_ Google says:
http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner
http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner
http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorials/Linux/Getting-Started/1
http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3496046 |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:39747 Activity:low |
9/19 Holy crap, NK give up nukes:
http://csua.org/u/dfa (ruters)
\_ Well, they're just lying about it again because they're desperate.
\_ What makes you think NK's commitment to Bush is any more meaningful
than their commitment to Clinton?
\_ So, I don't really. However, in this case pretty much all
the concerned countries are involved, so there should be less
bait-and-switch and divide-and-conquer going on.
\_ see post below about x from Japan, y from China, etc.
\_ LA Times is a bit more complete: http://csua.org/u/dfb
Also, it's true that one of the biggest problems is NK habit of
strongly denying things that we have verified evidence of. For
example, before the 1994 treaty it was shown that NK had already
unloaded fuel rods from Yongbyon. NK denied and there was a big
hubub. Now they're denying that they have a program
based on enriched uranium sheesh.
\- the second plank of the non-proliferation treaty is
the recogized nuke power are supposed to move toward
nuke disarmament ... so there is bogosity on all sides.
BTW, i dont actually think it makes any sense to move
toward zero nukes. if you have 1000 nukes and the enemy
has 1000, it doesnt really matter if they "cheat" and
build 100 more. if you go down to 10 or zero and somebody
does cheat, then the relative gains make a big diff.
you may wish to see adelphi paper #???: the spread of
nuclear weapons: more may be better, by K. Waltz. --psb
\_ I think the issue is that we don't really punish
those who managed to get the nukes, Pakistein, especially.
if anything, we should of invaded Pakistein for
\- is that the jewish
province of pakistan?
1. having nuke, and 2. give nuke technology to
'axis of evils' May be we should of impose
ecnomic sanctions against India. We might save
some American jobs at the same time.
\_ Pakistan doesn't have oil, does it?
\_ didn't we see this before under Bubba?
Light-water reactors funded by Japan and S Korea, oil from China,
a statement of non-aggression from the U.S. -- in exchange for
no-nukes until the UN inspectors get kicked out again?
Wasn't Dubya all about no concessions, no negotiations? Oh yeah,
that's what got the UN inspectors kicked out in the first place!
\_ No he wasn't. Go back and read the back articles.
\_ Revisionist historians is what I call them!
\_ Revisionist historian is what I call you!
Seriously, though, there are some differences: For one,
the U.S. is not promising a light water reactor.
Dubya is not promising a light water reactor.
\_ I'm not sure I understand what you've posted. Bush is
no concessions because he didn't give them light water
reactors?
\_ Bottom line: Dubya was about no negotiations, but he
negotiated. Theoretically freepers should be calling
Dubya an appeaser now -- but as long as their guy does
it, they give him the benefit of the doubt.
"Dubya appeases Kim Jong-il with oil and aid!"
http://slate.msn.com/id/2076697
http://csua.com/?entry=32930
Bottom line 2: I'm glad Dubya negotiated.
\_ From "How To Negotiate the Best Deal on a Car"
(http://www.miata.net/faq/newmx5.html "Learn to
keep a 'poker face' and be prepared to walk away
one or more times until the seller agrees to a
reasonable price."
\_ In the matter of NK, the biggest problem is that US want to have
the regime toppled. The other countries in the region want
to have NK regime evolve. And the shortie in NK wants to
survive. To survive, it needs to evolve, but at the same time
if it doesn't have nukes, US may try to topple it.
\_ Perhaps the China elite convinced Kim Jong-il that he could have
his dictatorship and capitalism at the same time.
\_ they tried. The problem is that N.Korea does not have the
market size to lure investers.
\_ While it's true that the US would probably be fine with NK
crumbling, we haven't been working with that assumption.
That was the assumption Clinton went in with, Bush has
decided that NK is probably gonna be around for a while.
This is mostly because there is not any "safe" way for us to
invade them.
\_ China nor the other Korea want to see N.Korea collapse for
the same reason why you don't want to see Mexico's economy
went tank. After all, it's their backyard and it's China
and S.Korea have to put up with refugees and nuclear
fall outs. |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:39748 Activity:nil |
9/18 http://www.eyezmaze.com/grow/cube/index.html Same idea as that sphere game a while back where you select from 10 items and try to do so in the right order so that everything grows to its fullest. -bz |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Health/Sleeping] UID:39749 Activity:kinda low |
9/19 sodans in their 30s+, do you have sleeping problems? What do you
do about them? When I was at Berkeley I can't wake up in the
morning, I could go to sleep anytime and sleep very well. Now
my brain is awake at 7am yet my body is tired. Every once in a
while I will sleep well, but often times it's just OK. Anyone
else have similar issues? What do you do about them?
\_ http://csua.com/?entry=37713
You the same guy who posted the above?
\_ I have friends who found Ambien very helpful. -dans
\_ I went to stanford sleep clinic. I ended up having sleep apnea.
But if you aren't having mental issues like cloudy thinking
then sounds like you are just out of shape. Go excercise 4 days
a week (cardio) and take vitamins.
\- I have evolved beyond sleep.
\_ What, no more lamppost collisions?
\_ when i started working out 4x a week and doing 20+ miles of
running coupla years ago, my insomnia actually got worse.
\_ If you're overweight, lose weight. Eat healthy.
Exercise every day. Don't eat after 8pm.
Work hard and efficiently. Post to motd as little as possible.
Have a social life. Talk to new people, see new places.
If you do all the above, you should have no problems.
\_ Exercise, a few glasses of wine with dinner and daily sex
work for me. If I don't get all of these, I sleep poorly.
\_ We don't all have access to yermom.
\_ Actually, I use my hand on the nights my wife is tired.
\_ "tired" i.e, all of them.
\_ A few glasses of wine? You get buzzed every day?
\_ Two or three yeah. Two is optimal for longevity, three
is probably pushing it a bit. Are you white? My European
enzymes have no problem with two or three drinks spaced
out over 4 hours.
\_ I was gonna say. The guy gets a buzz from 3 glasses of
wine over 4 hours? He's a lightweight.
\_ I am relatively "light weight". But I was thinking
more like 4 glasses over 2 hours from the desc.
Actually 2 in a row is enough to give me that
alcohol mood shift, I dunno if that can be called a
buzz.
\_ Stop waking up when your wife is trying to smother you.
\_ Cut off all caffeine. Remember that it has a half-life and takes
quite a while to metabolize.
\_ 6 hour 1/2 life to be exact..
\_ You clearly need a Sleep Number (TM) bed! (j/k those are dumb)
\_ i do have problem sleep, and I don't have access to sleep clinic.
There are couple things I've done that helps me:
* no caffine after 4:30pm. people say caffine last up to
6 hours in the body. I guess for my case, it last a lot longer
than that.
* physical exercise. jogging couple miles helps. sex also helps.
do both if you can.
\_ I got arrested the last time I had sex while jogging.
* don't stuff yourself with food 2 hours prior to sleep.
* no TV 1 hours prior to sleep
* no computer/net surfing 1 hour prior to sleep. I found TV
and computer usage are some sort of stimulant. Read a book
instead.
* hate to say this, but try to keep a regular sleep pattern.
i.e. always sleep at the same time of the day. allow yourself
wake up naturally in the morning if you have enough. Do this for
about 2 weeks, you will be fine.
\_ Caffeine is metabalized proportional to the amount in your
system. For an adult male the half life is about 6 hours. So it
isn't "out of your system" in 6 hours--only half of it is. In a
day over 90% is gone. But that time changes based on body
weight, chemistry, etc.
\_ Thank you. no computer/net/tv 1 hour before sleep would
be difficult to do, but I am gonna give it a try.
\_ Back to masturbating to the Victoria's Secret catalog |
| 2005/9/19-20 [Computer/SW/OS, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:39750 Activity:nil |
9/19 So I have this proprietary logger that writes into a temporary
directory, and to rotate it, we simply rename it, gzip it, and
the logger is smart enough to create a new log file. However,
I've noticed that even after we rename it, the logger still
APPENDS to the log file, and during the time we gzip and delete
it, the stuff that is appended, is lost. So I'm wondering if
there is a command in UNIX that'll CHANGE the inode so that
I can tell the logger to create a new file as soon as I rename
it? ok thanx.
\_ That is because the logger already has the file descriptor open.
Renaming it doesn't change that. Typically you would rename file,
send logger the -HUP signal which should cause it to reopen the log
file, creating a new one if it doesn't exist.. Then you can gzip the
old one.
\_ That is because the logger already has the file descriptor
open. Renaming it doesn't change that. Typically you would
rename file, send logger the -HUP signal which should cause
it to reopen the log file, creating a new one if it doesn't
exist.. Then you can gzip the old one.
\_ And if your logger doesn't handle -HUP, you will have to kill
and restart it. |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Science/GlobalWarming, Reference/Religion] UID:39751 Activity:nil 77%like:39736 |
9/17 Interesting article re the Dolly Llama's take the relationship btwn
\_ Dalai Lama, maybe?
\_ Someone keeps changing it.
Science and Religion:
http://www.nysun.com/article/19969?access=278096 |
| 2005/9/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:39752 Activity:high |
9/19 motd boring. Where have all the flame wars gone?!
\_ Yay! Today's motd is very civil. Let's see, we've talked about
linux, sleep disorder, fedora, etc. Motd is being useful again!
As long as left wing right wing nuts stay away motd is cool.
\_ Nope, motd boring. And clearly, you love George Bush, you
fascist.
\_ And clearly, you're a left-wing nut who loves sodomy,
wears "Earth Day" clothes and actually recycles.
\_ In Nazi Germany, they didn't recycle either. |
| 2005/9/19-20 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39753 Activity:nil |
9/19 Flamebait:
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2005/09/19/tomo/story.jpg
\_ I don't know, I think better flamebait would be, "Tom Tommorow
is so funny! Check this out!"
\_ That was actually pretty funny compared to previous ones.
\_ Bush disapproval rating at record high 58%
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/19/bush.poll/index.html |
| 2005/9/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack] UID:39754 Activity:high |
9/19 Having fun yet, jblack? Do me a favor. Take a shower and take an
etiquette class so that you can get yourself a girlfriend.
Please get a fucking life and fucking stop your freeper crap.
\_ So, what, did you delete another jblack link?
\_ It continues to crack me up that you post this crap anonymously. I
may have to start posting freeper links just to irritate you.
-emarkp |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Uncategorized] UID:39755 Activity:nil |
9/19 Can anyone recommend the best way to get CCNP certified. Who to go
through, what resources to use to study, etc..
\_ Do CCNA first, you can do that by yourself. I really liked the
courses from Global Knowledge, but that was a few years ago (I
understand they're not so great anymore.) Cisco press has good
study books for the individual tests too. -John |
| 2005/9/19-20 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:39756 Activity:nil |
9/19 Gay Penguin goes straight:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169653,00.html
(yes, its faux news but that doesn't make it any less amusing).
\_ Coming soon to your local video store: Bi Penguin Sluts do Antartica
\- so is this fox's subtle attempt at showing that homosexuality
is really a choice? |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39758 Activity:nil |
9/19 Bush disapproval at record high of 58%, while 67% disapprove of his
handling of Iraq.
For the first time, more Americans say that the labels "honest and
trustworthy" and "a strong and decisive leader" do NOT apply to Dubya.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/2005-09-19-poll.htm
\_ 59% now say Iraq War a mistake. I wonder where all the warmongers
on the motd went. -ausman
\_ I think Aaron's in Bellvue. -tom
\_ jblack is still trying to convince us ignorant liberals
that his view point is correct and we're stupid and wrong
by pointing out facts and figures from well respected
web sites like Free Republic, Fox News, taemag, etc.
Emarkp on the other hand is a different story. To recap,
towards the end of 2004 emarkp point out why the Iraq War
has made US and the world safer, that it was the right
decision, and that we should all support our brave and
wise commander in chief. Lately though he has been pretty
quiet, either because he is still waiting for the shining
moment that will prove Bush was right all along, or he
simply doesn't like interacting with people who have very
different perspectives than he does.
\_ False dichotomy. -emarkp
\_ "Just your best guess, do you think George W. Bush has taken steps
to help victims of Hurricane Katrina mostly because he sincerely
cares about the victims, or mostly for political reasons?"
56% say ...
\_ you know what, though, he still gets what he wants. And i am not
sure he really cares about the polls now that he is on his
second term.
\_ yeah, if the senate or the house goes Demo majority in '06, then
conservatives will have someone to blame again! |
| 2005/9/19-21 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:39759 Activity:moderate |
9/19 Oh look, North Korea is saying they won't be disarming until they get a
light water reactor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1487719/posts
\_ obviously the got the idea from the motd...
\_ The U.S. better get moving with a robust NPT prohibiting uranium
enrichment, plutonium creation, and a catch-all clause
prohibiting technology which can lead very quickly to a bomb.
The excuse I read 6-12 months ago with not doing a real NPT was
"it would take too long".
The U.S. has the answer, but just needs to follow through.
\_ Yes, clearly the problem with Iran and North Korea is that
the language in the non-proliferation treaty isn't complete
enough.
\_ dude, this latest agreement is not about N.Korea and its nukes,
it's about dubya get some headline with a positive spin.
\_ Interestingly this is the FIRST freerep. link that I have found
useful. I agree with many of the comments that basically state
"the north koreans will just use material in the reactors to
build more weapons and get another concession from the US."
-mrauser
\_ You need thousands of centrifuges to weaponize the enriched
uranium fuel used for light water reactors into a single bomb.
And, the enriched uranium would be fed to North Korea peacemeal,
given more as it used up more in the reactor.
On the other hand, North Korea already has enough plutonium for
eight bombs: As many as two bombs while they were playing with
their graphite reactors in three separate incidents '89-'91,
and six more since inspectors were kicked out in '02-now since
six bombs: As many as two bombs while they were playing with
their graphite reactor in three separate incidents in '89-'91,
their graphite reactors in three separate incidents '89-'91,
and four more since inspectors were kicked out in '02-now since
Dubya didn't want to finish building the light water reactors
Bubba promised back in '94 that would be done by '03 -- because
Kim Jong-il had confessed to a secret nuke program earlier in '02
(violating NPT) and Dubya didn't know what else to do.
\_ And this way they get FREE REACTOR. Do you believe that the
moment they unpack their shiny new peaceful toy, they're going
to spontaneously erupt into bursts of nuclear-abhorring song
and dance? (No, I can't see the Chinese doing anything but
pressuring the US into giving the reactor _before_ NK does
anything in return.) Bombs or not, they're a bunch of evil
little pests. -John
\_ You need thousands of centrifuges to enrich enough uranium
from light water reactors for a single bomb.
That's why people say that even if Iran kicked out all the
inspectors and went full-bore for bombs, it would take them
5-10 years for a bomb.
Bubba promised back in '94 that would be done by '03.
\_ The fun part is they don't need nukes to serious screw
with the world. A couple of hundred artillery shells would
put a serious damper to South Korea's economy, which
affects the US economy, and force the US to engage in
a third war front. It's goes downhill from there. In truth
the nukes or threat of nukes is what is keeping NK an
independant state.
\_ Personally, I think, without nukes, NK is a paper
tiger. Unlike Iraq, where are continued
unrest, resistance and bloodshed, for NK, once the
Kim regime is removed from power, the NK people
will happily welcome the SKoreans. The initial
attack could be destructive due to the
destruction could be destructive due to the
proximity of Seoul, but I wouldn't overestimate
\_ yup, who cares about civilian casualties
when they are not white.
the NK conventional forces. The conventional
war would probably last a little longer than
Iraq but not much. But yes, US will be really
stretched, but it won't be for very long. The
PLA would gether along the border in case of
unrest, etc., but it won't cross the Yalu. China
stretched, but it won't be for very long. China
would want to play a role in terms of establishing
influence, but really, there isn't too much that
it can do, without appearing very bad since
it can do, without appearing rather very bad since
the NK regime is morally, and literally, bankrupt,
and because China would want to maintain good
relations with S. Korea. Unfortunately, with
nukes, things become very scary. Mr. Kim knows
the above, that's why he will always keep his
nukes, unless and until he can transform NK, and
be viewed as some sort of authoritarian modernizer in
the mold of Deng, Putin, Chiang Chingguo, Lee
Kuan Yew, etc., but I doubt he has what it takes,
and because unlike the other countries, there is
a dynamic, succesful, equal-sized South Korea whose
existence make a mockery of the legitimacy of his
regime. Still, with nukes, the prudent thing for
the surrounding countries to do, is to find a way
out for Kim somehow. China will probably offer
him a villa somewhere in China if his regime falls,
but it would still be a hot potato for China if
a united Korea demands his arse back.
\_ They've been selling rockets like hot cakes,
I thought. I would imagine that Pakistan
proved pretty conclusively that states which
want to be evil little shitbags will be so,
regardless of "rational". I don't understand
why the US doesn't just walk away from the
table and let Japan, the Chinese and S. Korea
handle it--they seem to think themselves well
capable of it. -John
\_ NK will only negotiate with the US for
some crazy reason.
\_ The thing is, China, S.
Korea and Japan doesn't care as much as
the US as to whether Pakistan has
rockets or not.
\_ Exactly, and that's part of the problem-
China wants to play regional superpower,
and uses N. Korea as a check to US power.
S. Korea/Japan need US protection on a
strategic level, but not on an immediate
level, so they don't realize the importance
of a balance to the Chinese, and India
seems like they find the US pathetic. The
logical conclusion seems either to leave
them to sort their shit out, or to let
themselves blow each other to kingdom come.
If the US can resolve (ha ha) the tiny
issue of energy dependency on the middle
east and central asia, pulling out would be
the best option. -John
a united Korea demands his arse back.
\_ genau und der ist ein Teil des Problems
China regionalen Superpower spielen möchte
und benutzt N. Korea da eine Überprüfung
zur US Energie. S. Korea/Japan
Notwendigkeit US Schutz auf einem
strategischen Niveau, aber nicht auf einem
sofortigen Niveau, also sie verwirklichen
den Wert einer Balance nicht zum Chinesen,
und Indien scheint, wie sie die US
pathetisch finden. Die logische
Zusammenfassung scheint entweder, sie zu
lassen, um ihre Scheiße heraus zu
sortieren, oder lassen Sie sich zum
Königreich sich durchbrennen kommen. Wenn
die US (ja ja) die kleine Ausgabe der
Energieabhängigkeit auf dem Mittler-Osten
und dem zentralen Asien beheben können,
würde das Ausziehen die beste Wahl sein.
Heil Hitler! - John
\- demurring on the paper tiger question, they can
still sell stuff to non-paper tigers. and they dont
have to sell fully functioning nuclear icbms to be
a problem. say the regime falls aparts and somewhere
you find a receipt for delivery of a couple of kg
of highly radioactive material to Mr. Albert Queda
(i dunno if they have made ricin or other low tech
chem/bio agents) what happens then? this would not
be the rational behavior of a state, but the side
effect of anarchy.
\_ Come to think of it, yes, things could be
a little thorny especially since it's not just
Kim, but an entire NK generals, officials
ruling class. As much as it's a pain to see
justice compromised, it's always a good idea
to assure them their safety, and a role to
play in a united korea. Not doing that for
the Baath Party members and Iraqi Army officers
is one of the biggest mistakes US made.
the Baath Party / Iraqi Army officals is one
of the biggest mistakes US made, in my opinion.
Still to the people of NK, South Koreans are
their brothers, unlike the relationship
between Iraqis and Pax Americana, so there
won't be much resistance once the regime
falls.
out for Kim somehow.
between Iraqis and Pax Americana.
\_ You know that the capital of S.Korea is
within the artillery range of N.Korean, right?
can you imagine what would happened to S.Korean's
economy if they suffered just a hour of bombardment?
(~60% S.Korean population lives in Seoul)
Do you care if hundreds of thousands
of refugee across the Yalu river to Chinese border?
Do you really think S.Korea has the will and economy
to absorb N.Korea? Chances are, you don't care.
Since the Korean War, US only wanted one thing:
the collapse of N.Korea regime. Mean while the
Chinese/S.Koreans, being at N.Koreans, has a lot
of pratical things they need to worry about. This
is why S.Korean's stance is more aligned with the
Chinese. US need to think about WHY S.Koreans,
being an ally with USA for past 5 decades, is
deviating from USA in terms of N.Korea policy.
*FURTHER* I was hoping Iraq would taught USA
a lesson of post-war planning...
\_ You know that the capital of S.Korea is
within the artillery range of N.Korean, right?
can you imagine what would happened to S.Korean's
economy if they suffered just a hour of bombardment?
(~60% S.Korean population lives in Seoul)
Do you care if hundreds of thousands
of refugee across the Yalu river to Chinese border?
Do you really think S.Korea has the will and economy
to absorb N.Korea? Chances are, you don't care.
Since the Korean War, US only wanted one thing:
the collapse of N.Korea regime. Mean while the
Chinese/S.Koreans, being at N.Koreans, has a lot
of pratical things they need to worry about. This
is why S.Korean's stance is more aligned with the
Chinese. US need to think about WHY S.Koreans,
being an ally with USA for past 5 decades, is
deviating from USA in terms of N.Korea policy.
*FURTHER* I was hoping Iraq would taught USA
a lesson of post-war planning...
\_ That was sort of my point above--the Chinese
have a stake in what happens, while the US is
obviously just playing neo-imperialist games.
Maybe China should be left to figure out how to
deal with N. Korea. Regarding refugees, they
generally tend to stream away from the direction
the artillery's coming from... -John |
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