Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 47135
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2007/6/30-7/5 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47135 Activity:nil
6/30    Democrats, not very popular:
        http://www.csua.org/u/j22
        \- anybody who compares the approval ratings between the
           president and congress is either stupid or disingenuous.
           to say "congress's rating have slid more in the last
           6mos while the president's rating have gone up" might
           be meaningful, but the only virtue of comments like this
           "President Bush is doing terribly -- an average of 30 percent
           job approval in six recent polls. Congress is doing worse --
           25 percent on the average in five polls." is to signal you can
           add this dood to your KILL file. that article is the journalistic
           equivalent of a college paper with the thesis "the iliad
           is a poem by homer about the trojan war, which was difficult."
           \- see also:
              http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2007/06/broderism-watch.html
        \_ The only poll that matters happens in November every two years.
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Ronald Reagan Diary Watch June 29, 2007 Broderism Watch: Congressional Approval Ratings Robert Moomaw writes: As has been pointed out before, Congress as a whole traditionally gets lower approval ratings than the President for the simple reason that people on BOTH sides of the ideological aisle can disapprove of it -- the people backing the minority party will naturally disapprove of it, but a lot of the people backing the majority party will also say THEY disapprove of it because they don't think their party is doing an enthusiastic enough job of trampling the opposition underfoot. Well, the latest pollster to ask it is Fox News today -- and, like all other post-2006 election polls on the subject, they indicate that at the moment the Dems have very little to worry about, election-wise. Broderism Watch: Congressional Approval Ratings: Comments The presidential primaries have been going on forever already. Everything has moved up a month and when the day comes, poof, not much of a bump. For the Republicans I am looking forward to the guy who tries to emulate that handsome hunk George Clooney and not shave for a weekend. Miami Vice to go with the Old Spice, the "I'm not a Republican suit" suit. June 29, 2007 at 09:23 AM Good questions to Broder on his chat today, including this one: New York: Brad DeLong (an economist who was in the Clinton administration) argues that much of what Becker and Gellman report could have been reported as long ago as July 2001. Was the overall content of this report about Cheney's role really a surprise to you? Cheney had overruled Treasury Secretary O'Neill and Federal Reserve Chair Greenspan on budget policy "2. Cheney had overruled EPA Administrator Whitman and Treasury Secretary O'Neill on global-warming policy "3. Cheney had overruled Secretary of State Colin Powell on North Korea policy "4. George W Bush had neither the patience nor the intelligence to master the issues "5. It looked as though Bush had decided to rely on Cheney's opinion on pretty much everything." David S Broder: I do not know Brad DeLong and I have no wish to quarrel with him. But as I just said in answer to another question, I think it would have been nearly impossible to duplicate the Cheney series reporting until after the reelect of the Bush-Cheney ticket. June 29, 2007 at 09:58 AM ben, thanks for bringing that to our attention: could broder possibly be more willfully obtuse? If Broder says that Gellman-Becker taught him a lot of new things, he looks like an uninformed idiot; if Broder says that he knew the broad outlines of Gellman-Becker beforehand, he looks like somebody who has been lying to his readers for half a decade. June 29, 2007 at 10:36 AM Yeah, the most depressing thing about Broder's non-answer is that it shows how willful and non-senile his disingenuousness is. 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