Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2010:February:22 Monday <Sunday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2010/2/22-3/12 [Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:53718 Activity:nil
        \_ Hello China+Apple!!! Soon anti-communist rhetoric and anything
           suggestive of it will be banned on the iPhone apps as well.
2010/2/22-3/12 [Industry/SiliconValley] UID:53719 Activity:nil
2/20 is this just pro-apple hype?
2010/2/22-3/12 [Uncategorized] UID:53720 Activity:nil
2/20    ChromeOS: Can anyone comment on how it performs, specifically on
        older systems?  Some sort of "min system reqs" would be nice to know
        if you can't comment on performance due to NDA.  Thank you.
2010/2/22-3/12 [Uncategorized] UID:53721 Activity:nil
2/20    wtf happened to soda again?
        \_ aand again just now?!
           \_ aaand again 3 x in one day, wtf is going on?!
2010/2/22-3/30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53722 Activity:nil
2/20    Ok serious question, NOT political.  This is straight up procedural.
        Has it been declared that we didn't find WMD in iraq? (think so).
        So why did we go into iraq (what was the gain), and if nobody really
        knows, why is nobody looking for the reason?
        \_ Political stability, military strategy (Iran), and to prevent
           Saddam from financing terrorism.
           \_ Ok, fair answers. I grant you 2 and 3 probably actually worked
              was that the political stability we were looking for?
              what i mean is, wasn't that area "stable" under saddam?
              \_ This is somewhat of a guess, but it wasn't stability of Iraq
                 that was the concern, but stability of the entire Middle East.
                 During the first Gulf War, Sadaam demonstrated that he was
                 more than willing to launch missles at Israel and Saudi
                 Arabia. That was largely the reason why the US had troops
                 in Saudi Arabia. And the presence of troops in Saudi Arabia
                 was one of the major reasons (among many I'm sure) why OBL
                 was so angry the US. After Sadaam's capture, the US pulled
                 its troops out of Saudi Arabia.
                 \_ So basically the people threatened with Saudi and Israel
                    and we got the whole world to help the two nations that
                    arguably the rest of the world hates more than the US.
              \_ I think it is pretty clear that the Gulf War strengthened
                 Iran strategically.
                 \_ Did you notice iran went for a nuclear enrichment
                    program just to save themselves?  I guess they learned
                    from iraq and dprk, if you have no nukes, you are
                    screwed.  Will it be a balance of power in the region
                 \_ Having a battle-tested US army on your border is not
                    a position of strength if you are anti-US.
                    \_ This is a temporary situation. A weak, divided Iraq
                       is a huge win for Iran. Remember Iraq fought two bloody
                       wars with Iran in the 80s.
                       \_ Well, yes, but largely at our behest (cf. pix of
                          Rusmfeld shaking hands with Saddam) and mostly
                          because we were still pissed about the hostages
                          and the Iranians overthrowing our puppet, the Shah.
                          The biggest win for Iran here is that Iraq no
                          longer _wants_ to fight with Iran, even if it
        \_ The reason was that the GOP needed to find a way to funnel taxpayer
           dollars to their big donors and the cover of a war was the easiest
           way to do this. Don't you remember the "Permanent Republican
           \_ But isn't this the case for any administration- that the
              funneling comes regardless of whatever policy happens?
              \_ Sure, but defence contractors don't donate to Democrats.
                 Remember how Clinton slashed the DoD budget?
        \_ The reason that no one in the Administration is looking is that
           Rahm Emmanuel has the Prez's ear on policy right now, and RE's
           take on the whole thing is don't look back, don't investigate.
           Cf. RE blowing his top when Eric Holder started looking into
           whether CIA operatives could be prosecuted for tortuure.
2010/2/22-3/12 [Computer/HW] UID:53723 Activity:nil
2/20    There was a failure validating the SSL/TLS certificate for the server
        The reason for the failure was
                          self signed certificate in certificate chain (details)
        We have not verified the identity of your server. If you ignore this certificate validation
        problem and continue, you could end up connecting to an imposter server.
        If the certificate validation failure was expected and permanent you may avoid seeing this
        warning message in the future by adding the option
        to the name of the folder you attempted to access. In other words, where\
ver you see the characters
        in your configuration, replace those characters with
        Is anyone else getting this error trying to send email?
        \_ motd format policy was here.
        \_ using pine?
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2010:February:22 Monday <Sunday>