Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2010:May:26 Wednesday <Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2010/5/26-6/30 [Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:53844 Activity:nil
5/26    anyone use lxde?  supposedly it is less stupid than xfce and
        less bloated than gnome.  thoughts?
        \_ lol, does anyone still use desktop linux?  Get with the times
           buy a mac.  Now.  DO IT.  Go NOW.
           \_ but we prefer herring to Kool-Aid
              \_ "you have to yell, he's hard of herring"
        \_ I tried it, I think it uses less memory, hard to tell.
           I work with some nerd who uses xmonad
        \_ I have struggled for years with debian and ubuntu and centos
           with gnome and kde and fluxbox and whatever... work made me
           get a mac, I secretly admit that it is pretty cool.
2010/5/26-6/30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:53845 Activity:nil
5/26    "China could join moves to sanction North Korea"
        How did Hillary manage to do that when we're also asking China to
        concede on the economic front at the same time?
         \_ China doesn't want NK to implode. NK is a buffer between SK and
            China, or in other words a large buffer between a strong US ally and
            China. As a matter of national security, they don't want to see
            Korea's unification happen, because it would put them in a situation
            where US troops would be stationed at the border with China.
            Furthermore, the occupation of NK by SK would likely result in a
            large number of NK refugees in China, which, as an ally of NK, they
            would be obligated to host, but which would cause socioeconomic
            problems. It's in their interest for NK to remain as it is, a buffer
            state between SK and China, even if that means cooperating with the
            US for now; it serves their needs. The real danger is the
            possibility of NK's internal power structure destabilizing and
            causing unpredictable behavior. Until now, NK has managed to survive
            by predictably backing off its threats when the US pays it money to
            stop being a pain in the ass.  Obama has broken this cycle of paying
            off NK, which may be causing internal turmoil.
            \_ Actually, SK has usually been the one paying off NK, not the US.
               So, I would say Prez. Lee had more to do with this than Obama.
               Especially since Bush was really the one that broke the cycle
               by insisting on the 6-party talks.  Bush wussed out a bit near
               the end because he was desperate for a diplomatic victory. I'm
               glad Obama has turned the pressure back up, but credit where
               credit is due.
        \_ It is called diplomacy. I know it has been a long time since we
           had anything other than a bully and a moron as President, but
           other tactics work better.
           \_ facepalm.
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