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2007/6/15-19 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:46976 Activity:low
6/15    Hilary has *no* *chance* in 2008, I read it in the motd:
        http://www.csua.org/u/ixn (WSJ)
        \_ At a glance, which one of the candidates _does_ have a chance?
           \_ Cthulhu 2008. Why vote for a lesser evil?
        \_ Clinton with Obama VP would be an interesting combo I think.
           Still, the only thing that matters is when you get down to
           election day. That's pretty far off yet and I think a lot of
           states may not really vote Democrat when we get down to it,
           or vote for a woman CIC etc etc.
        \_ I do not think Hilary can win. I think it's because she's a
           woman and a polarizing one at that. I never vote Republican,
           but I don't think I'd vote for her. I'd probably vote for a
           3rd party candidate.
           \_ A lot has to do with who her opposition is at the time.
              If the GOP pushes forward a Spiro Agnew, she might not need much
              more than the votes of the faithful to win.
              If the GOP pushes forward a Spiro Agnew, she might not
              need much more than the votes of the faithful to win.
              \_ Spiro Agnew -> grow a penis
              \_ Someone's going to win, and none of the candidates are strong.
                 Sort of like a 'lesser evil' vote, the winner will be the
                 least weak.
                 \_ So far, the GOP has given us adulterers, flip-floppers,
                    and cranky old men. Oh, and Ron Paul. Which of these is
                    lesser evil you speak of?
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