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3/30 what do people think about the British memos supposedly
saying Bush/Blair were thinking of ways to fake cause
for invading Iraq in case we didn't find WMD quickly?
Excuse my poor English. I'm talking about these:
http://tinyurl.com/eabyg
I don't know where the original NY Times story is.
Just for laughs I looked around on Fox News . com for the story
but I can't find it.
\_ What?! Are you saying the NYT and Foxnews are the same since
neither has the story?
\_ No, not at all. I doubt it was ever on Fox News. Please
prove me wrong! The NY Times article is now behind
their paywall.
\_ http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183689,00.html
I typed "blair memo" into their search engine. It was the
first link. You sure tried really hard, huh?
\_ I guess your brain uses different buckets for the
hashes, i didn't think of that since there seems to be
secret BLAIR memos coming out every other month.
anyway I don't want to imply Fox News is a bunch of
scum sucking administration sycophants. I am surprised
at the lack of public outcry. I know we've been
debating whether Bush made up shit when invading
Iraq but the memo seems pretty damning.
\_ Hey that is a DIFFERENT blair memo. See, a new
shocking one comes out all the time! Please read
the above urls again. My BLAIR memo has Bush
suggesting we paint a plane in UN colors so Saddam
would shoot at it and then we can invade in
retaliation.
\_ As I said before it was overwritten: it should be
no surprise that there are multiple memos on the
same topic between the leadership of two close
allies on an important issue.
\_ Well, Dubya doubted Blix would find the WMDs, but he was sure that
Saddam had them, so he attacked in March '03 to prevent Blix from
not finding them longer. |
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| tinyurl.com/eabyg -> news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&percentage_served=100&tab=wn&q=%22saddam+fired%22&btnG=Search+News Different beat to Iran war drums Asia Times Online, Hong Kong - 22 hours ago ... The memo reports Bush as saying, "If Saddam fired on them he would be in breach." His second suggestion was to bring out Iraqi defectors, who would give public ... The aircraft would be painted in UN colors, so that if Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach of UN resolutions, the book said. |
| www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183689,00.html Tony Blair is alleged to have told Bush in January 2003 he was "solidly behind" US plans for military action, despite the continuing negotiations, according to reports in the Guardian newspaper and on a British television station. They both quote a new version of a book due to be published Friday. The book, "Lawless World," is by lawyer Philipe Sands, who practices at the same law firm as Blair's wife. The newspaper, which published the report on its Web site, and Channel 4 News claim to have seen a memo recording a meeting between Blair and Bush at the White House on Jan. During the talks, it is claimed Bush told Blair the "diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning." The reports claim Blair said he was "solidly with the president and ready to do whatever it took to disarm Saddam." A spokesman at Blair's office, speaking on the customary condition of anonymity, said Thursday he could not confirm the contents of the memo and said officials "don't comment on the prime minister's conversations with other leaders." The news organizations claim the memo records Bush as saying the United States would "put its full weight" behind efforts to secure a second UN resolution, but that "military action would follow anyway." Blair sought to win UN support with the second resolution, which would have given Hussein an ultimatum to disarm -- and carried the threat of military action. It is claimed Bush told him the resolution "would provide an insurance policy against the unexpected, and international cover, including with the Arabs". The lawyer's book also claims Bush told Blair the United States had considered a possibility of "flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colors." Bush allegedly claimed that if Iraqi forces fired at the aircraft, the country would be in breach of existing UN resolutions. He is also alleged to have expressed hopes that a defector could be found who could "give a public presentation about Saddam's" weapons of mass destruction. The memo claims Bush also told Blair there was a possibility Saddam would be assassinated. In the book, Sands claims the memo records Bush as saying it was "unlikely that there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups" in the aftermath of an invasion. "If these allegations are accurate, the prime minister and President Bush were determined to go to war with or without a second UN resolution, and Britain was signed up to do so by the end of January 2003," Sir Menzies Campbell, acting leader of the opposition Liberal Democrat party, said in a statement. "By then it was clear that there was no credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction -- the stated justification for the moves against Saddam Hussein." He said diplomatic efforts after January 2003 appear now to simply have been a case of going through the motions. "The prime minister has a lot of explaining to do," Campbell said. |