Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 54212
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2018/09/21 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
9/21    

2011/11/6-30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:54212 Activity:nil
11/6    By a 2:1 ratio Americans think that the Iraq war was not worth it:
        http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
        \_ Bad conservatives. You should never change your mind, and you
           should never admit mistakes.
           \_ Most "tea party" conservatives still support the war. It is the
              weak-kneed moderates that have turned against America.
2018/09/21 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
9/21    

You may also be interested in these entries...
2012/7/21-9/24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:54440 Activity:nil
7/21    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cold_War_pilot_defections
        This week's food for thought, brought to you by People's
        Republic of Berkeley: Did you know that many US pilots defected to
        communist Cuba?  South Korea pilots defected to communist
        North Korea? Iran<->Iraq pilots defected to each other?
        W Germany pilots defected to E Germany? Taiwan/ROC pilots
	...
2012/3/26-6/1 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:54347 Activity:nil
3/26    Things I learned from History: Lincoln was photographed with
        killer. Lincoln had 3 male lovers (he was bisexual!).
        Kennedy had an affair with a Nazi spy. Elenore Roosevelt
        was a lesbian!!!  Nerdy looking Ben Franklin was a suspected
        killer and quite a ladies man. WTF???
        \_ Did it mention anything about Washington and the cherry tree?
	...
2011/2/16-4/20 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:54041 Activity:nil
2/16    "Iraqi: I'm proud my WMD lies led to war in Iraq"
        http://www.csua.org/u/sl0 (news.yahoo.com)
        \_ Duh.  the best thing that could ever happen to a country is
           the US declaring war on it.  cf: japan, germany, and now iraq.
           the US winning a war with it.  cf: japan, germany, and now iraq.
	...
2010/11/2-2011/1/13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:54001 Activity:nil
11/2    California Uber Alles is such a great song
        \_ Yes, and it was written about Jerry Brown. I was thinking this
           as I cast my vote for Meg Whitman. I am independent, but I
           typically vote Democrat (e.g., I voted for Boxer). However, I
           can't believe we elected this retread.
           \_ You voted for the billionaire that ran HP into the ground
	...
2010/9/26-30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53966 Activity:nil
9/24    Toture is what gave us the false info on WMD and Iraq.
        http://video.nytimes.com/video/2010/09/25/opinion/1248069087414/my-tortured-decision.html
        Where is the apology jblack?
	...
2010/7/20-8/11 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53889 Activity:low
7/20    Is jblack still on? What about the rest of the pro-war cheerleaders?
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100720/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_iraq_inquiry
        \_ War is fought for the glory of generals and the economics of the
           war machine.  Looking for "justifications" for it is like looking
           for sense in the necronomicon.  Just accept it and move on.
        \_ When we fight with Red China, what nation will we use as a proxy?
	...
2010/2/22-3/30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53722 Activity:nil
2/20    Ok serious question, NOT political.  This is straight up procedural.
        Has it been declared that we didn't find WMD in iraq? (think so).
        So why did we go into iraq (what was the gain), and if nobody really
        knows, why is nobody looking for the reason?
        \_ Political stability, military strategy (Iran), and to prevent
           Saddam from financing terrorism.
	...
2009/10/1-12 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:53421 Activity:kinda low
10/1    Signs that Communist China is really opening up!
        http://www.csua.org/u/p6f (news.search.yahoo.com)
        \_ WOW that is TOTALLY AWESOME. I'd love to see a porn
           of this genre. Asian. Lesbians. Military. That
           is just awesome.
           \_ This unit has unusually good drill and ceremony discipline.
	...
Cache (6549 bytes)
www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
India 10 Iran Iraq 11 Israel 12 Korea 13 Japan 14 Liberia 15 Mexico 16 Northern Ireland 17 Pakistan 18 Russia 19 Saudi Arabia 20 Serbia/Yugoslavia/Kosovo 21 Vietnam Iraq All data are from nationwide surveys of Americans 18 & older. Worth Fighting Not Worth Fighting No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 49 47 5 4/15-18/04 51 47 2 3/4-7/04 52 44 3 2/10-11/04 48 50 2 1/15-18/04 56 41 3 12/18-21/03 59 39 2 12/14/03 53 42 5 11/12-16/03 52 44 4 10/26-29/03 54 44 2 10/9-13/03 54 44 2 9/10-13/03 61 37 2 9/4-7/03 54 42 4 8/20-24/03 57 37 5 7/9-10/03 57 40 3 6/18-22/03 64 33 3 4/27-30/03 70 27 4 . Does Does Not No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 38 57 5 4/15-18/04 45 53 2 3/4-7/04 43 53 3 12/18-21/03 48 47 5 10/9-13/03 42 53 5 9/10-13/03 42 55 2 . Bogged Down Good Progress No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 60 35 5 4/15-18/04 59 41 0 . Very Closely Some- what Closely Not Too Closely Not Closely At All No Opinion % % % % % 5/5-6/04 36 39 16 8 1 . Approve Disap- prove No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 48 35 17 . Isolated Wide- spread No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 62 31 7 . Quickly Enough Too Slowly No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 42 42 16 . Investigate Cover It Up No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 44 43 13 . Resign Keep His Job No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 20 69 11 . What's your own personal reaction to the apparent abuse of Iraqi prisoners? Not Concerned Concerned, Not Upset Upset, Not Angry Angry No Opinion % % % % % 5/5-6/04 7 39 27 24 2 . Not a Big Deal A Big Deal No Opinion % % % 5/5-6/04 28 69 3 Gallup Poll. Approve Disap- prove No Opinion % % % 5/2-4/04 42 55 3 4/16-18/04 48 49 3 3/26-28/04 51 47 2 1/29 - 2/1/04 46 53 1 1/2-5/04 61 36 3 12/5-7/03 50 47 3 11/3-5/03 45 54 1 10/6-8/03 47 50 3 9/8-10/03 51 47 2 8/25-26/03 57 41 2 7/25-27/03 60 38 2 7/18-20/03 57 39 4 7/7-9/03 58 39 3 6/12-15/03 63 34 3 4/14-16/03 76 21 3 3/29-30/03 71 27 2 3/24-25/03 71 26 3 3/14-15/03 56 41 3 1/31 - 2/2/03 54 42 4 1/3-5/03 55 40 5 12/02 55 39 6 10/02 52 40 8 . Worth Going To War Not Worth Going To War No Opinion % % % 5/2-4/04 50 47 3 4/16-18/04 52 46 2 4/5-8/04 50 47 3 3/26-28/04 56 41 3 3/5-7/04 55 43 2 1/29 - 2/1/04 49 49 2 1/9-11/04 59 38 3 12/15-16/03 65 33 2 12/5-7/03 59 39 2 11/14-16/03 56 42 2 11/3-5/03 54 44 2 10/24-26/03 54 44 2 10/6-8/03 55 44 1 9/19-21/03 50 48 2 9/8-10/03 58 40 2 8/25-26/03 63 35 2 7/25-27/03 63 34 3 7/18-20/03 63 35 2 6/27-29/03 56 42 2 4/14-16/03 73 23 4 4/9/03 76 19 5 4/7-8/03 67 30 3 3/24-25/03 68 29 3 1/3-5/03 53 42 5 . Very Well Moder- ately Well Moder- ately Badly Very Badly No Opinion % % % % % 5/2-4/04 4 33 32 30 1 4/5-8/04 5 30 31 33 1 3/5-7/04 9 46 28 15 2 11/3-5/03 4 34 34 27 1 10/6-8/03 6 36 34 24 - 9/8-10/03 6 41 31 21 1 8/25-26/03 6 44 30 19 1 7/25-27/03 10 46 28 15 1 7/18-20/03 6 48 30 15 1 6/27-29/03 5 51 29 13 2 5/30 - 6/1/03 11 59 22 7 1 CBS News/New York Times Poll. Approve Disap- prove Don't Know % % % ALL 41 52 7 Republicans 77 18 5 Democrats 15 79 6 Independents 37 53 10 Trend: 3/30 - 4/1/04 44 49 7 3/10-14/04 49 43 8 2/24-27/04 46 47 7 2/12-15/04 49 45 6 1/12-15/04 48 46 6 12/21-22/03 57 36 7 12/14-15/03 59 35 6 11/10-12/03 48 48 4 10/20-21/03 49 45 6 9/28 - 10/1/03 47 48 5 9/15-16/03 46 47 7 8/11-12/03 57 33 10 7/03 58 32 10 5/03 72 20 8 3/26-27/03 69 27 4 3/24/03 71 24 5 3/23/03 75 22 3 3/22/03 72 23 5 3/20-21/03 69 25 6 3/15-16/03 55 41 4 3/7-9/03 51 42 7 3/4-5/03 54 39 7 2/24-25/03 52 44 4 2/10-12/03 53 42 5 . Better Worse No Effect Don't Know % % % % 4/23-27/04 10 71 10 9 . Worth It Not Worth It Don't Know % % % 4/23-27/04 33 58 9 3/30 - 4/1/04 37 54 9 3/10-14/04 42 51 7 2/24-27/04 42 52 6 2/12-15/04 41 50 9 1/12-15/04 43 51 6 12/21-22/03 42 47 11 12/14-15/03 44 49 7 11/10-12/03 40 51 9 10/20-21/03 42 52 6 9/28 - 10/1/03 41 53 6 9/15-16/03 43 47 10 8/26-28/03 46 46 8 8/11-12/03 46 45 9 . Iraq was a threat to the United States that required immediate military action. Required Immediate Action Could Have Been Contained Not a Threat At All Don't Know % % % % 4/23-27/04 32 48 17 3 3/10-14/04 42 45 12 1 2/24-27/04 40 46 12 2 2/12-15/04 39 43 15 3 12/21-22/03 44 39 14 3 12/14-15/03 44 37 15 4 7/03 43 43 9 5 6/03 53 35 10 2 . Did Right Thing Should Have Stayed Out Don't Know % % % ALL 47 46 7 Republicans 80 15 5 Democrats 24 69 7 Independents 44 47 9 Trend: 3/30 - 4/1/04 55 39 6 3/10-14/04 58 37 5 2/24-27/04 54 39 7 2/12-15/04 58 37 5 12/21-22/03 62 34 4 12/14-15/03 63 31 6 . Tried Hard Enough Too Quick Don't Know % % % 4/23-27/04 34 61 5 . On Its Own Bring in the UN Don't Know % % % 4/23-27/04 17 76 7 5/03 34 61 5 . Entire Truth Hiding Something Mostly Lying Don't Know % % % % 4/23-27/04 20 56 20 4 . Has a Clear Plan Does Not Don't Know % % % 4/23-27/04 32 58 10 12/14-15/03 34 53 13 11/10-12/03 31 60 9 . Less Than 1 Year 1 to 2 Years 2 to 5 Years More Than 5 Years Don't Know % % % % % 4/23-27/04 8 27 33 25 7 . Stay as Long as It Takes Turn Over Control ASAP Don't Know % % % 4/23-27/04 46 46 8 12/14-15/03 56 35 9 11/10-12/03 49 43 8 . Increased Decreased Same Don't Know % % % % 4/23-27/04 41 18 39 2 10/20-21/03 26 21 51 2 9/15-16/03 25 17 55 3 8/26-28/03 32 19 48 1 5/03 34 15 49 2 . Yes No Don't Know % % % 4/23-27/04 39 51 10 3/30 - 4/1/04 36 47 17 9/28 - 10/1/03 43 42 15 5/03 52 38 11 4/11-13/03 53 38 9 4/2-3/03 53 34 13 3/03 45 40 15 2/03 42 42 16 9/02 51 33 16 Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. Approve Disap- prove Don't Know % % % 4/21-25/04 44 48 8 4/1-4/04 40 53 7 1/6-11/04 59 37 4 9/17-22/03 52 40 8 . Right Wrong Don't Know % % % 4/21-25/04 54 37 9 4/1-4/04 57 35 8 3/17-21/04 55 39 6 2/24-29/04 60 32 8 2/11-16/04 56 39 5 1/6-11/04 65 30 5 12/19/03 - 1/4/04 62 28 10 12/15-17/03 67 26 7 10/03 60 33 7 9/03 63 31 6 7/14 - 8/5/03 63 30 7 6/20 - 7/2/03 67 24 9 4/10-16/03 74 19 7 4/8-9/03 74 19 7 4/2-7/03 72 20 8 3/28 - 4/1/03 69 25 6 3/25-27/03 74 21 5 3/23-24/03 74 21 5 3/20-22/03 71 22 7 . Very Well Fairly Well Not Too Well Not At All Well Don't Know % % % % % 4/21-25/04 12 43 26 15 4 4/1-4/04 14 43 26 13 4 3/17-21/04 16 45 26 11 2 2/11-16/04 17 46 23 11 3 1/6-11/04 22 51 18 6 3 12/19/03 - 1/4/04 23 47 18 7 5 12/15-17/03 28 47 16 6 3 10/03 16 44 25 11 4 9/03 15 47 26 9 3 7/14 - 8/5/03 19 43 24 11 3 6/20 - 7/2/03 23 52 16 5 4 4/10-16/03 61 32 3 1 3 4/8-9/03 60 32 3 3 2 4/2-7/03 55 37 3 2 3 3/25 - 4/1/03 39 46 8 2 5 . Keep Troops Bring Home Don't Know % % % 4/21-25/04 53 40 7 4/1-4/04 50 44 6 12/19/03 - 1/4/04 63 32 5 10/03 58 39 3 9/03 64 32 4 . Has a Clear Plan Doesn't Have a Clear Plan Don't Know % % % 4/21-25/04 36 54 10 4/1-4/04 32 57 11 12/03 44 45 11 10/03 35 54 11 9/03 32 58 10 .