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2011/2/16-4/20 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:54041 Activity:nil
2/16    "Iraqi: I'm proud my WMD lies led to war in Iraq"
        http://www.csua.org/u/sl0 (news.yahoo.com)
        \_ Duh.  the best thing that could ever happen to a country is
           the US declaring war on it.  cf: japan, germany, and now iraq.
           the US winning a war with it.  cf: japan, germany, and now iraq.
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The Guardian newspaper published an interview Wednesday with Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, who has been identified as the informer called "Curveball," whose claims about weapon labs formed part of then-US Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech to the UN Security Council in 2003, shortly before the war began. The Guardian quoted al-Janabi as saying: "I had the chance to fabricate something to topple the regime. Although some intelligence agents were skeptical of Curveball's story, the US Senate Intelligence Committee reported in 2004 that the Central Intelligence Agency "withheld important information about Curveball's reliability" from analysts dealing with the case. The Guardian interviewed al-Janabi in Karlsruhe, Germany in a mixture of Arabic and German. The US Senate panel's report said Curveball spoke in English and Arabic when he was interrogated by intelligence officers. Asked about his feeling's about the deaths and destruction during the war and in the years following, The Guardian said al-Janabi said there was no other way. "I tell you something when I hear anybody not just in Iraq but in any war (is) killed, I am very sad. "Saddam did not (allow) freedom in our land," the Iraqi said. You have to believe what Saddam says, and do what Saddam wants. So I did this and I am satisfied, because there is no dictator in Iraq any more." Report Abuse Roadscolar said it perfectly: The PRESIDENT wanted war at any cost. I was sick as a dog when we launched this entirely unprovoked attack against a tinpot dictator. It is a breach of the USA Constitution and in my view President Bush should be stripped of his immunity and should stand trial for treason against the United States. America is not some cruscading force against each and every regime we don't happen to like. The Constitution only allows us to attack a country if we have a demonstrated, real threat against our security. In every possible respect the administration failed this test and played on our 9/11 fears to prosecute and illegal, immoral and incredibly expensive Holy Cruscade. I do not apologize for our forces, but I am mad as heck about our former president.. Report Abuse Now that we know that a bunch of young people with internet access and 18 days can topple a regime, it makes it a whole bunch more difficult for me to tolerant of the lies that brought about war in Iraq. Report Abuse What is most amusing is odds are that those who support the Bush/Cheney slaughter of those innocent 4,800 American soldiers never served in the military. It is so easy to be brave and yell "Invade" "Kill" "Fight" when it can be done on a computer and in total security. It is too bad there no longer is a civilian military that forces everyone to serve. Report Abuse I'm guessing most of the commentators here were born in this country and have not had the chance to truly experience life under a regime like Iraq had or under a government like the Soviet Union. Most Americans, born and raised here and not being fully immersed in another culture assume that we are intruding on other countries and that they don't want us there when America gets its nose into their business. What is true is that the leaders probably don't want us there - but that is usually who America is up against - the leaders - often times, the civilians who have an understanding of what freedom is are hoping for America to intrude. I was born here to immigrant parents who have raised me within our culture - but at the same time they have always said that America is the greatest country in the world, no other country in the eastern or western world cares enough to sacrifice themselves for the sake of another. 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