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3/22    Is Terri's CAT scan that bad?  Why has she not had PET or MRI?
        My Grandmother's Brain -- OK -- But Would I Stop Feeding
        My Grandmother?
        http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co.html
        \_ oh wow, replies by real doctors with fancy medical
           terminologies that I don't understand. I wish that I had
           done pre-med. Instead I'm just a stupid code monkey barely
           surviving in Silleycone Valley
           \_ It's never too late for medical school, if you want to go.
              We have all heard stories of the 40 year old guy in there
              with the 22 year olds.
              \_ In fact, medical schools *like* older students.  There is
                 a shortage of family/general practice doctors, and that's
                 what most older med students end up doing.  Older students
                 usually don't have the lifespan and stamina to go for the
                 longer and/or more intensive residencies.  Unfortunately,
                 family docs make the least money.
                 \_ How easy is it to work in medical research without
                    seeing patients? I never wanted to be a surgeon or see
                    people to diagnose/prescribe for them... but I get the
                    impression that's required.
                    \_ When I first read your post, I thought you said
                       "without seeing patents".
                    \_ If you are a researcher then you don't have to have
                       a practice. I know someone who does this and she
                       never sees any patients. I also know a doctor who
                       does a lot of research and selects his patients
                       based on it. This seems more interesting than being
                       a GP, but pays a lot less.
        \_ not a doctor, but I have looked at a lot of fmri and pet scans.
           There's a ton of degeneration in that brain.  I've seen some
           lesioned and post-stroke cats and mri's, too.  Nothing that bad.
           But, he is right.  There is some minimal cortex left.  He does
           leave out an important fact though.  Gradual atrophy in a fully
           functioning individual is different than severe sudden atrophy
           and recovery.  For example, a study was done of 80+ year old
           nuns, and it was found that all the nuns had similar degrees
           of massive cortex atrophy in the brain.  However, the nuns that
           had a stroke had a post-trauma sudden onset of Alzheimer's that
           the non-stroke nuns didn't have.  Likely something from the
           stroke triggered onset of Alzheimer's. Thus, comparing Terri's
           brain to fully functional 85 yr olds who have had gradual
           atrophy without functional loss is not entirely kosher.
        \_ The CT scan is old, and unless I see the original DICOM data I'd be
           hesitant to conclude anything.  My company works with that kind of
           data all the time and you can adjust contrast controls, etc. to make
           a CT look like just about anything.  Furthermore, your typical CT of
           the brain doesn't look like much.  Which is why a tool like Image
           Fusion (shameless plug: http://www.prowess.com/products-img.php
           allows you to compare the MRI (on the right) with the CT. -emarkp
        \_ I think it is all a distraction from the more pressing issues
           of war, recession and ignorance that plague this country. Bush's
           numbers are down to 45% and the Republicans are desperately
           and transparently trying to change the subject.
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Ct_scan_terri Thanks to reader "primer" I've been directed to the Uni versity of Miami Ethics program website where they posted this image fro m a CT scan of Terri Schiavo's brain in 1996. The sentence attached to t he link for this scan on the site says: CT scan of Ms Schiavo's brain, showing extensive cortical regions fille d with spinal fluid. this link you can see the scan in a larger reproduction. The Second District's first opinion in this case explained: Since 1990, Theresa has lived in nursing homes with constant care. S he has had numerous health problems, but none have been life threatenin g Over the span of this last decade, Theresa's brain has deteriorated beca use of the lack of oxygen it suffered at the time of the heart attack. By mid 1996, the CAT scans of her brain showed a severely abnormal stru cture. At this point, much of her cerebral cortex is simply gone and ha s been replaced by cerebral spinal fluid. Unless an act of God, a true miracle, were to recreate her brai n, Theresa will always remain in an unconscious, reflexive state, total ly dependent upon others to feed her and care for her most private need s First, I contest the theory that Terri's brain actively continues to dege nerate as implied by the above statement. How could they gage serial bra in degeneration without serial follow-up? And by what mechanism would he r brain CONTINUE to atrophy? Second, Terri's cerebral cortex has not bee n replaced by fluid. Third, and most importantly, given the amount of atrophy on this image I disagree with the court's inadequately considered conclusion. My Grandmother's Brain -- OK -- But Would I Stop Feeding My Grandmother? First of all, the University of Miami's appellation for this scan is inac curate. "Cortical regions" are not and can not be filled with spinal flu id. The sulci (spaces between cortical ribbons) are enlarged secondary t o cortical atrophy and these sulci are filled with cerbrospinal fluid. The most alarming thing about this image, however, is that there certainl y is cortex left. Granted, it is severely thinned, especially for Terri' s age, but I would be nonplussed if you told me that this was a 75 year old female who was somewhat senile but fully functional, and I defy a ra diologist anywhere to contest that. I HAVE SEEN MANY WALKING, TALKING, FAIRLY COHERENT PEOPLE WITH WORSE CERE BRAL/CORTICAL ATROPHY. THEREFORE, THIS IS IN NO WAY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT TERRI SCHIAVO'S MENTAL ABILITIES OR/OR CAPABILITIES ARE COMPLETELY ERADICATED. I CANNOT BELIEVE SUCH TESTIMONY HAS BEEN GIVEN ON THE BASIS OF THIS SCAN. The worrisome, no alarming thing, for me, was that I heard a bioethicist and several important figures on the major media describe Terri's brain as MUCH WORSE. One "expert" said that she had a "bag of water" in her he ad. Several experts described her as a "brain stem preparation" These statements are wholly inaccurate. If you starve this woman to death it would be, in my professional and exp erienced medical opinion, the equivalent of starving to death a 75-85 ye ar old person. All That Glitters is a SHUNT Next mystery: Why is there a shunt in Terri's ventricle? This CT image is "flipped" (ie the CT scan is mirror-image backwards which is just an inconsequential error made when scanning the image into the computer), s o the right side is LEFT and vice versa. However, everyone can see, easi ly, the ovoid white object sitting in the front of the big black butterf ly in the center of Terri's brain, correct? A shunt is a tube inserted i nto the brain to reduce pressure caused by build-up of cerebrospinal flu id (CSF) in the brain. That big black butterfly in the middle of Terri's brain is her ventricular system, which holds the CSF and in Terri's cas e, it is enlarged (dilated). First, if Terri's brain damage was due to oxygen deprivation, her enlarged ventricles would be by a pa ssive mechanism -- which is not amenable to shunting -- not by obstructi on of the egress of CSF. To me, the presence of a shunt indicates obstru ction to the flow of CSF that needs to be circumvented. Obstruction to f low is hard to postulate given the mechanism of Terri's brain injury (ox ygen deprivation). It would NOT be hard to postulate, however, if she had BLOOD in her head at some point in the past. I would like to see the BONE SCAN taken of Terri that purportedly showed e vidence of traumatic type osseous uptake! It is quite unusual to see high-pressure hydrocephalus when the mechanism of brain injury was INFARCTION; IF it is then her atrophy is SEVERE, BUT not as bad as has been implicate d by the press and the courts IF it is then why did she have hydrocephalus six years after her non trau matic infarction IF it is... IF Terri DOES have hydrocephalus from ventricle blockage, was there traum a that caused bleeding that lead to hydrocephalus on the basis of a bloo d clot obstructing ventricular outflow? IF Terri had hydrocephalus in 1996, she may still have hydrocephalus now; some patients with hydrocephalus respond to shunting with increased men tal functioning! Based on this evidence Terri Schiavo should have a CT scan repeated. She should also have an MRI and a PET scan to gage the severity of her brain dysfunction. Doctor: The "Water" in Terris Brain is a Myth from MediaCulpa You have probably heard Michael Schiavos attorney George Felos say thing s such as this about Terri Schiavos brain: "CT scans just don't lie. "This Brain is Not That Bad" from Oh How I Love Jesus From CodeBlueBlogs is a very interesting article which shows what is repo rted to be a 1996 CT scan of Terri Schiavo's brain, and an explanation b y a radiologist as to what it all means to him. from Fat Steve's Bla therings According to the stories by the "Kill Schiavo Now" crowd, the CAT scan of Terri's brain showed her cerebral cortex has disappeared, rendering her a vegetable. Terri's CT Scan, from a physician from Cao's Blog Sue Bob's Diary has a post referencing a physician, Code Blue Blog, which talks about Terri's CT Scan. The Anchoress draws and interesting conclu sions from Code Blue Blog's analysis of the CT Scan: Codeblue blog's Dr. The Politics Of The Terri Schiavo Case from Right Wing News Across the blogosphere, many people have expressed dismay that Capitol Hi ll has chosen to get involved in the Terri Schiavo... The Politics Of The Terri Schiavo Case from Right Wing News Across the blogosphere, many people have expressed dismay that Capitol Hi ll has chosen to get involved in the Terri Schiavo... Tracked on March 22, 2005 07:12 AM Comments Unless someone can find evidence that Ms Schiavo ever had a shunt placed , this is not her head CT. Elementary radiologic interpretation: make sure the name on the film matches the name of the patient. Craig H | March 21, 2005 05:18 PM There is no name on the CT (I assume) because HIPPA regulations forbid it . however, when you have the type of ex perience I DO (I've seen 10,000 brain CT's) you can pretty well infer th e rest of the study. however, I can judge the severity of GLOBAL ISCHEMIA-caused atrophy bas ed on this cut, and I'm willing to BET on it. You are correct about that shunt -- that is really remarkable. CodeBlueBlogMD | March 21, 2005 05:31 PM Karen Quinlan's pathology was disproportionately subcortical -- bithal...