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2006/10/24-26 [Health/Disease/AIDS] UID:44952 Activity:high
10/24   Is this the end of antibiotics?
        http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/the-scourge-of-skid-row/14810
        (Warning, some of the pictures are really nasty.)
        \_ In short, yes.  And this plague of staph is starting exactly
           like AIDS.  First, it gets the drug-users and other societal
           rejects.  Then, it comes for everyone else.  When it's an
           expensive killer of "normal" people, it's seen as a crisis,
           and it is, rather than being nipped in the bud.  Like all our
           other infrastructure, public health is in a state of near-total
           neglect.  Drug-resistant staph, tuberculosis, malaria, and a
           host of others are coming at us, spread in part by insecticide
           resistant bugs.  Idiots in Washington spend trillions combating
           threats to thousands of us and ignore the threats which will
           kill millions of us.  Write your congressman, please.  --PeterM
           \_ How do you figure AIDS could have been "nipped in the bud" in
              this country?  I recall at the time some were advocating enforced
                \_ That was just Lyndon LaRouche
                   \_ No, it was a lot of people.  Either way, the question
                      remains: what would you have done at the time to "nip
                      AIDS in the bud"?
                      \_ Um, mounted effective research and prevention efforts
                         early on instead of not worrying about the "gay plague",
                         for starters?
                         early on instead of not worrying about the "gay
                         plague", for starters?
                         \_ So with billions of dollars of research and
                            education efforts since then, what has happened?
                            People who wanted to engage in risky activity
                            continued to do so despite knowing the dangers
                            and still get AIDS today.  There was no magic
                            bullet that would have done anything of note.
                            After 20+ years of public education there are
                            still new cases even though the number of new
                            cases *should* be near zero.  People are dumb.
                            \_ HIV isn't easy to transmit.  If we'd had
                               clean needle and condom campaigns early we could
                               have lowered transmissability to the point
                               where the infection might have died out in
                               the US, especially with very focussed targeting
                               on the initial high risk groups.  Further,
                               there WAS NO CURE at the time and a campaign
                               of persuasion, "do this or die" might have
                               been more effective.  To this day, dirty
                               needles are responsible for much spread of
                               HIV and hepatitis because politicians would
                               rather moralize than take effective action
                               (needle exchange) for public health.
                               Convinced now? --PeterM
                               \_ Convinced?  Of what?  No.  I'll repeat my
                                  main point: to this today everyone *should*
                                  be aware that certain activity will get you
                                  HIV/AIDS yet they still choose not to use
                                  condoms or use clean needles even in places
                                  where they are given free.  People are dumb.
                                  And btw, there is still no cure, so I'm not
                                  sure why you mention there wasn't one then
                                  either but thats not the point.
                                  \_ Convinced that early vigorous action
                                     could have greatly reduced the impact
                                     of HIV on the US.  HIV isn't very
                                     transmissible:  maybe 1.1 new cases
                                     per existing case, or even less thanks
                                     to public health campaigns.  Even if
                                     early vigorous action reduced transmission
                                     by 20%, there would be .9 new cases of
                                     HIV per existing case and the infection
                                     would die out.  I'm saying that if we'd
                                     had vigorous prevention and needle
                                     campaigns early on, HIV would have had
                                     negligible impact on the US and we would
                                     not have needed the *billions* now
                                     required for treatment and research.  --PM
                                     \_ So now that we have spent billions in
                                        research and the public is as educated
                                        as possible, is the rate .9 or 1.1?
                                        If you can show me something that says
                                        .9 then I'm fully convinced.  Of course
                                        there would still be people coming from
                                        outside the country but I'm not going
                                        to push that as I'm sure it's a small
                                        number.   Either way, people are still
                                        dumb.  ;-)
                                        \_ http://csua.org/u/hb7 (Entrez PubMed)
                                           This is an NIH site.  The number
                                           today isn't .9, it seems, but lower,
                                           .05/yr.  That is, for every existing
                                           case, there is 1 new case in 20 yrs.
                                           That is actually more successful than
                                           I had thought.  Just under 1M in USA
                                           have HIV.  Oh, and yes, people are
                                           dumb, I fully agree on *that*.  But
                                           remember, those *billions* spent have
                                           mostly been spent treating the sick,
                                           not on prevention/education.  Early
                                           prevention efforts would have yielded
                                           a huge ROI, especially since at that
                                           time AIDS victims were dying
                                           relatively fast.  --PeterM
                                           \_ Ok, I'll buy that.  Just one
                                              last thing to keep in mind is
                                              that by the time HIV/AIDS was
                                              recognised and diagnosable there
                                              were already a lot of people who
                                              already had it since it has such
                                              a long infection -> symptoms
                                              period.  It may be the case that
                                              after the initial death toll, the
                                              level of education was
                                              appropriate since new cases are
                                              determined based on test date,
                                              not the unknowable infection
                                              date.  So the high initial rates
                                              were unstoppable and then people
                                              who were uninfected then more or
                                              less did do the right things to
                                              stay safe(r).  It also may be the
                                              case that since H/A transmission
                                              is more likely with certain
                                              activity that the virus was
                                              already mostly isolated to those
                                              populations, thus without *any*
                                              education it might have had low
                                              rates after the initial deaths.
                                              No one can say with certainty
                                              how many more, if any, might have
                                              remained uninfected if there had
                                              been earlier education (IIRC it
                                              was about 2 years that it was
                                              believed to be a 'gay disease').
              isolation a la Typhoid Mary.  What do you figure 'they' should
              be doing about all these other diseases right now?
              \_ Spend money on better public health and research. This
                 isn't exactly rocket science. -ausman
                 \_ And how would that have done anything at the time when
                    AIDS first became known in the US to stop it from
                    spreading?  Billions of dollars of research have gone into
                    AIDS, medical science has advanced, and there was a lot of
                    money going into public education, but no one really knew
                    what AIDS was, some *still* dispute what it is and we
                    are still are the very early stages of being able to deal
                    with viruses of any sort.  What was going to happen in the
                    80's to stop AIDS?
                    \_ Politicians and public health officials ignored AIDS
                       because most initial victims were gays and drug users.
                       If it had been, say, children or middle-aged white males
                       there would have been a much more effective prevention
                       campaign.  Similarly with this new drug-resistant staph
                       in LA.  Right *now* it's afflicting homeless, prisoners,
                       and drug users.  Very soon, like AIDS, it's going to
                       be mainstream, and dealing with it is going to cost
                       a lot more in lives and in money.  Tuberculosis is back
                       in many countries with a drug-resistant vengeance.
                       Malaria's returning, too, also in drug-resistant glory.
                       Remember when life expectancy was 50 years or less?
                       Continued neglect of public health and medical research
                       will bring those days back.  --PeterM
        \_ On a related note, all those anti-bacterial soaps may not be
           so good for us after all:
           http://tinyurl.com/yxa9cw (motherearthliving.com)
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E-mail The Scourge of Skid Row A staph infection threatens the lives of cops, firefighters and homeless people. But don't expect any help from county health officials By CHRISTINE PELISEK Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 6:00 pm The plague boils over: When will the county health department step in? She wondered if it had anything to do with an ankle fracture she suffered on vacation in Mexico a few months earlier. Within a half hour, the warm feeling turned into pain so excruciating that her leg went numb. Unable to walk, the 39-year-old burglary-investigations supervisor was carried to a patrol car and rushed by her partner to an emergency room. Later that day, a surgeon cut into her foot and removed an abscess. The diagnosis: Skid Row staph, or, more technically, a strain of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus that is sickening dozens of police officers, firefighters, health-care workers and homeless people. 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Rollins School of Public Health, Center for AIDS Research, Emory University, 1518 Clifton Road NE, Room 540, Atlanta, GA 30322, USA. edu The HIV/AIDS epidemic in the United States generally has been characterized by AIDS case incidence and AIDS-associated death rates; in a more limited fashion, the epidemic has also been described by AIDS prevalence; However, HIV transmission rate information (ie, the rate of transmission from persons living with HIV to HIV-seronegative persons) has received relatively little attention. The purpose of the present paper is to estimate the annual HIV transmission rate (from HIV-seropositive to HIV-seronegative persons) in the United States for the time period 1978-2000 and to discuss the practical utility of the findings. This implies a programmatic success in that for more than roughly 95% of persons living with HIV in any given year, no HIV transmission occurs. Research is urgently needed to fully understand the circumstances that allow the remaining instances of HIV transmission to take place; moreover, serostatus-appropriate HIV-related services are needed to disrupt these remaining instances of transmission.
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