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2008/10/14-17 [Uncategorized] UID:51510 Activity:nil
10/13   what happened to the on-line, searchable MOTD archive?
                                kngharv
        \_ http://csua.com
           \_ Ausman Internet Consulting kicks ass
              \_ Thanks, kchang did all the hard work. -ausman
2008/10/14-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Recreation/Humor] UID:51511 Activity:moderate
10/14   Biggs, Wedge, let's close it up.  We're going in.  We're going in full
        throttle.
        \_ You think you're funny or clever, but you're not.
           \_ yep, I was very reluctant to quote Luke, but ... also, I do not
              think I am funny or clever in this post.  There is nothing funny
              at all about the U.S. financial system and its looming effects on
              the average American.
              \_ Then why all the Star Wars trolls?
                 \_ I do not think THIS post is funny/clever.  It's Luke.
                    And I'm not looking forward to more Luke quotes.  I'll
                    stop for the time being.  -op
                 \_ You're right.  I'll stop. -op
                    \_ Too bad, it was funnier when only a few people could
                       figure out what you were talking about.
                       \_ but Luke is so dang annoying -op
        \_ I think you are funny, please keep it up. I can't wait to find out
           who plays the ghost of Obi-Wan.
           \_ Obi-Wan == Volcker
              Luke == Mass of not very well run hedge funds/SWFs
              Yoda == Nouriel Roubini
              \- er, ok:
                 http://gawker.com/5063337/the-secret-pleasures-of-dr-doom
                 i think PVOLKER is probably more the yoda. or maybe
                 FROHATYN
              Palpatine == Greenspan
              Leia == Sheila Bair
              Galactic Senate == Congress
              \_ Who's Jar-Jar Binks?
                 \_ ob Jar-Jar == Dubya
                 \_ Paulson looks more like Jar Jar.
                    \_ take off Vader's helmut - it's Hank!
           \_ You are all too nerdy to live.
              \_ You == Storm Trooper #2
2008/10/14-16 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51512 Activity:nil 50%like:51551
10/14   Another "Kill Him!" moment at a Palin rally
        http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/articles/2008/10/14/news/doc48f4ba8994588930223377.txt
        http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palin_supporter_on_obama_kill.php
        \_ Obviously referring to Ayers.
           \_ Uhhh....wow.
2008/10/14-16 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51513 Activity:nil
10/14   Palin quotes Westbrook Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous
        for his anti-Semitism, racism, and violent rhetorical excess.
        http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/10/the_pegler_factor.php
        \_ But he's not a terrorist like those dangerous ACORN Community
           Organizers.
           \_ Le sigh.
              http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/10/more_fraud.php
        \_ Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?
2008/10/14-17 [Uncategorized] UID:51514 Activity:nil
10/14   Krugman's well deserved Nobel Prize:
        http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/honoring-paul-krugman
2008/10/14-17 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:51515 Activity:low
10/14   Too much debt from law school? Be a prostitute!
        link:www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_10622483?nclick_check=1
        \_ This link is not working?
        \_ Clearly the lesson here is that you should only study something
           if you're rich!
           \_ heard of "Go to grad school only if you can afford it" ?
              \_ In what way does your statement contradict mine?
        \_ At least it's honest work.
        \_ Bah, they're getting her on tax evasion!  Fer chrissake.
        \_ I love how she ended up marrying a rich Dot Commer. I personally
           would have liked to hit that.
           http://preview.tinyurl.com/473r48 (NSFW)
           \_ That link doesn't work.
              This does:
              http://insiderescortsecrets.com/wordpress/tag/touchofbrazilnet
              It would be nice to screw a lawyer instead of the opposite
              for a change.
              \_ Weird, it worked this morning. Someone must have gotten
                 it pulled.
2008/10/14-16 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:51516 Activity:nil
10/14   What are some of the safer CA muni bond fund you guys have?
        Just researching right now into 1-5 year safe investments that
        would hopefully beat CDs...
2008/10/14-16 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51517 Activity:nil
10/14   William Ayers: Funded by Republicans
        http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/3027
        \_ You are obviously a terrorist.
           \_ Yup, and apparently so are the Annenburgs!
2008/10/14-16 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:51518 Activity:nil
10/14   LOL...Venezuelan govt. now calling Bush "comrade"
        http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/717074.html
2008/10/14-17 [Finance/CC] UID:51519 Activity:nil
10/14   Credit card questions:
        1) how long do credit card info stay on your credit report?
           I just saw my cred report for the first time and was pissed
           to see certain things over 10 years ago!!!
           \_ Positive ratings can stay on indefinitely. Was it a positive or
              negative thing? I think negative things have to come off after
              seven years.
        2) I just tried to cancel a bunch of cards (and I have perfect
           record with them) and they gave me a hard time saying that
           I don't want to cancel my card because I've had over 13 years
           with them and that doing so will hurt my credit, therefore,
           I should keep them. WTF? Is that really true even though you
           have a card that you never intend to use?
           \_ Yes.  Your score includes the age of your oldest account,
              and the average age of your accounts.  http://csua.org/u/mn7
           \_ Keep the one that has the longest credit record. Total credit
              history is important. For some reason my student loan fell off my
              credit history and my credit score dropped (not much, like 10
              points, but still it was annoying)
           \_ Get your credit limit set to as low as you can and
              then cut up the card.  Your history
              will remain.
2008/10/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51520 Activity:nil
10/14   Palin supporter shouts "Obama Bin Laden"
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=577hQ3NRb88
        \_ Obviously he's talking about Ayers.
           \_ Obviously you've never served.
2008/10/14-17 [Recreation/Humor] UID:51521 Activity:nil
10/14   Cover of LA Times makes a funny:
        http://www.latimes.com/includes/sectionfronts/A1.pdf
        \_ I have to buy a copy of this one.
2008/10/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:51522 Activity:nil
10/14   New Army Manual Showcases Softer Side - Yahoo! News:
        http://www.csua.org/u/mn6
        'The Army ultimately decided that such an aim (spreading democracy) is
        unrealistic. "We have to step back and say, you know, it's not about
        democracy, it's about effective governance and a stronger economy and
        well-being for the people," Leonard says. "If they develop democracy,
        that's great, but they have to have a government that suits their
        culture. And of course we had that debate."'
        \_ please forward the link to Mr. Bush please.
2008/10/14-15 [Health/Disease/AIDS] UID:51523 Activity:nil
10/14   I don't understand this whole AIDS walk BS. Instead of saying
        "I'm going to walk X miles, can you donate $1 per mile?" why
        don't they just simplify it and say "Give me whatever $ you got"?
        Why make it so complex? Sheesh
        \_ Because charity events get more people involved in asking for
           money.  Duh.  -tom
2008/10/14 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51524 Activity:nil 80%like:51531
10/14   This is what election fraud looks like
        \_ http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-actual-election-fraud-looks-like.html
2008/10/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51525 Activity:nil
10/14   Republicans descending into serious tinfoil hat territory:
        http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/10/the_coverup_3.php
        \_ Can they somehow shoehorn killing Vince Foster into the mix?
           \- I killed Vince Foster just to watch him die. --wjc
2008/10/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51526 Activity:nil
10/14   Wait, I thought earmarks were the Worst Thing Ever.
        http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/21/mccain-ferry-earmark
2008/10/14-20 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:51527 Activity:nil
10/14   2 apache 2.0.52 servers running on Linux boxes.  Identical httpd.conf
        files (except for ServerName).  But on one, if a CGI script takes
        longer than 300 seconds, it times out.  The other, not.  Why is that?
        \_ Perhaps network equipment configuration. Or try comparing settings
           in /proc/sys/net.
           \_ I ran /sbin/sysctl -a | grep tcp, all settings are the same.
              The only difference I've found so far is that one httpd binary
              is 32 bit, the other 64 bit.
              \_ That's a huge difference. Why is that? Your systems
                 aren't even close to similar. Start with that thesis
                 instead of the "identical" thesis. Is one of them a
                 Pentium Pro and the other one a quad core P4, too?
                 \_ They are two separate systems.  But the question still is
                    why does one time out, while the other one does not.
                    \_ Could be lots of reasons. What are the differences?
                       Why is one running a 64bit binary, for instance?
                       As it stands your systems don't seem similarly
                       configured or spec'd at all so it's not surprising
                       they behave differently. So what are the differences?
                       Answer that and you have your answer. Also switch
                       network ports (A<->B) and IPs to eliminate that
                       from the equation.
2008/10/14-17 [Consumer/Camera] UID:51528 Activity:nil
10/14   Are DX/EF-S lenses in general less well built than FX/EF lenses?
        \_ Don't know about Nikon, but there are no L-class EF-S
           lenses, which means no environmentally sealed (mostly
           anyway) EF-S lenses.  They also don't make big metal cased
           telephoto primes for EF-S, so obviously, you won't find
           such tank-like builds in EF-S, but it's not an issue of
           "less well built" but rather "non-existent."
        \_ why you are even WORRY the build quality of these lenses?
           Most of people, you probably included, tend to be very careful
           about their lenses that the build quality is not really an issue.
           More lenses got damaged during the process of cleaning it than
           anything else.   Secondly, since camera are moving towards full-
           frame, your DX lenses are probably going to get outdated before
           you really use it.
2008/10/14-17 [Reference/Military, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:51529 Activity:low
10/14   This is why people shouldn't own guns:          -anti-gun nut
        http://cbs2.com/local/Porter.Ranch.Murder.2.833728.html
        http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-porterranch7-2008oct07,0,7425239.story
        \_ The guy made 1.2 mil (convert paper to money), then another
           0.5 mil from the house. How could he have just run out of
           money? This is baffling. I hope he didn't blow it up on hookers.
           \_ On margin investments are how you make (and lose) 1.2 mil.
        \_ You're an idiot.  You probably think the $50M to put up a net on the
           GG bridge is a good investment?
           \_ Jumping off the bridge: jumper dies
              Shooting guns: someone may grab your gun, or you go nuts
                and shoot innocent people, or your child shoots accidentally
                \_ Jumping off the bridge: Causes a traffic jam,
                   politicians waste time and money talking about it.
                   Shoots self: No traffic jam, politicians waste time
                   and money talking about it anyway.
                   The bigger picture, of course, is that it is
                   completely acceptable loss to the gains, just like
                   allowing people to have massive weapons that are
                   cars.
                   \_ What is worse, causing traffic jam or accidentally
                      or intentionally killing your family members and
                      by-standers because you went balistic?
                      \_ You could probably kill a bunch of people with a car
                         if you decided to do so.
        \_ right. Exactly.  People also shouldn't have cars, or swimming pools
           Or be allowed to take their kids to mcdonalds.  Why don't all these
           fools see how right we are and how wrong they are.
2008/10/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51530 Activity:nil
10/14   See!  Obama really is a terrorist!
        http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2008/10/why-obamas-colu.html
        Or wait, maybe he's just a gay pedophile!
        http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/13/obamas-special-relationship
        And I thought them thar Liberals were supposed to be the unhinged ones.
        \_ Is it too early to talk about ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) ?
2008/10/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:51531 Activity:nil 80%like:51524
10/14   This is what election fraud looks like
        http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-actual-election-fraud-looks-like.html
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