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| 2007/10/15-17 [Consumer/Audio] UID:48313 Activity:nil |
10/13 The Zune has an FM Ftuner. Is there any MP3 player with an AM tuner?
I saw Panasonic makes a portable CD player that plays MP3 and has
an AM tuner, but playing MP3 from CD is not quite the same thing. |
| 2007/10/15-16 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Health/Disease/General, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:48314 Activity:high 64%like:48322 |
10/15 It occured to me this morning that treating women as equal to men has,
so far, proven to be a poor choice for our society evolutionarily.
This suggests the practice will probably die out evenutally.
\_ Too soon to tell. I suspect that the socities with faster growth
rates may be subject to a massive die-off sooner or later.
\_ What do you mean? Fewer offspring? Fewer offspring may be the
only long-term viable evolutionary strategy due to environmental
limits.
\_ That's a salient point, but it requires that all societies agree
to limit reproduction. You may get two sets of societies, 'the
moral slow reproducers' and the 'immoral fast reproducers.' There
will still be an environmental catastrophe, but the fast
reproducers will have many more people than the slow reproducers.
The result is the fast reproducers wipe out the slow reproducers
in resource wars. There is historical precedence.
\_ Oh you mean like in California, the whites are getting
wiped out by the exploding Latino population? You RACIST!
\_ Historical precedent is invalidated by technological
advantage. When the slow reproducers have a massive military
technological advantage due to not living at or below bare
subsistence, numbers won't matter.
\_ This assumes that the slow reproducers live in segregated
political states. In reality there are slow vs. fast within
each political entity, especially now with multicultural
immigrant states. Therefore in the long run we have the
same result.
Multicultural states are therefore bad for the species,
because they lead to global homogenizing of cultures.
Diversity decreases in favor of the fastest-growing
domininant subcultures, leaving the population as a
whole at greater risk.
\_ There is about five assumptions you are making here,
none of which you have justified, but I will start
with the largest. Do you honestly believe that having
a multicultural state in say The Netherlands has any
effect on culture in Chad?
\_ Not so much, but it affects the culture in the
Netherlands. Multiculturalism is happening mostly
in countries which have slower birth rates
than the countries where the immigrants come from.
Large amounts of immigrants from [3rd world highly
populated country] have the potential to, in the
long run, make the culture in the host country
more like the 3rd world country.
\_ Not the pp, but jumping in here: actually, yes.
If NL hires guest workers from Chad, and those
workers come to appreciate the liberal freedoms of
the west, they'll export those ideas along with the
cash remittals. Consumerism has been shown over and
over again to be much more prolific than any
religion or ideology, given sufficient access to
resources and products.
\_ Or you can get mass die off of the fast reproducers, which
we will probably see in a generation or two.
\_ A mass die off caused by what? Is there some magic
disease that only infects people who have more than 2.2
children?
\_ Famine, disease, warfare, the usual things that
cause mass die offs, what else? It is already starting
to happen in some of the overpopulated parts of Africa.
\_ You're begging the question; the societies which treat women
equally are significantly out-competing the societies which
don't. -tom
\_ Not in population, which is probably the most important metric
from an evolutionary perspective.
\_ Not if you're talking about survival of the society
(as opposed to the genotype). -tom
\_ In what way? If there was a world wide plague which wiped out
a few billion people, the less technically dependent people
would have an advantage in numbers and societal structure in
the aftermath.
\_ So why aren't well all cockroaches. Oh yeah, because pure
\_ The U.S. is much better equipped to deal with a world wide
plague than India or China, partly because we haven't
overpopulated in the way those countries have. If plague
with high mortality hits and the U.S. drops down to 100
million population and China drops down to 200 million,
does that mean China is doing beter? -tom
\_ So why aren't we all cockroaches. Oh yeah, because pure
biomass is not what makes something a dominant species. This
is especially true when talking about memes instead of genes.
\_ Cockroaches don't (can't?) compete in our ecological
sphere. We can eat cockroaches for example. Other humans
do compete with us: they use the same resources and inhabit
the same gene pool. Domination only matters if the dominant
ones are willing to crush the subordinate ones like
Nazis, an ideology which has been rejected. Hitler was a
Nazi. And thus the discussion is complete.
\_ You aren't cockroaches because the cockroaches are the
cockroaches. Who says cockroaches haven't already won
from a survival and evolutionary perspective? Long after
your pathetic species has imploded, the taken for granted
little cockroaches will still be here skittering about,
doing our cockroach things. We pity you, human. We've
already won, you just don't know it. |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Uncategorized] UID:48315 Activity:nil |
10/15 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20896254 Rise in vaginal tightening surgeries a concern, reports MSNBC. |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Science/Disaster, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:48316 Activity:nil |
10/15 "Oil Futures Hit New Record Above $85"
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071015/oil_prices.html
Just Two weeks ago some economist was predicting $100 by end of next
year. It might even come sooner than that. |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Reference/Law/Court, Reference/RealEstate] UID:48317 Activity:kinda low |
10/15 2 blocks of my neighborhood were completely blocked and there
were police all over the apartment unit next to mine. They blocked
everyone and they wouldn't even let residents nearby go in/out of
the street! We were locked down for maybe 2.5 hours-- I was
starving, and almost peed in my pants. Is the lock down even
LEGAL??? Can I sue the police for creating disturbance? Anyways
rumor has it that there were shootings and some people got killed.
As I'm searching local news online I couldn't find any reported
incidents. Are there other places to find crime data and details
of the police report? -just got a pepper spray
\_ I hope you are trolling the motd for amusement. In my heart
I hope to G-d none of my fellow sodans are this dumb.
I hope to God none of my fellow sodans are this dumb.
\_ Do you live in Oakland?
\_ You don't have a toilet in your apartment bathroom?
\_ In order to sue, you'd have to prove that the police were not
acting in accordance with their duty at the time. If there were
shootings and people got killed, your odds of doing so are slim to
none.
\_ Great idea, sue the police for trying to stop shootings in your
neighborhood.
\_ There was a shooting and you bought... pepper spray. Okey dokey!
\_ You did't see the "Talk about bringing a gun to a knife fight:"
article in that other thread above? -- !OP |
| 2007/10/15-19 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:48318 Activity:kinda low |
10/15 Gotta love it when liars (CAIR) are exposed:
http://csua.org/u/jqe
\_ Links to Little Green Footballs, promoting paranoia and anti-
Islamic sentiment so you don't have to.
\_ The link has a scan of a check to CAIR, and quoting a statement
from CAIR denying it. Do you claim that they're faking it?
\_ No, I object to you posting partisan links without posting
the full URL or, barring that, identifying the source. I'm not
saying that no one should read Freeper or LGF or WashTimes or
Townhall, I'm just saying that you should give people an
opportunity to know what the source is before they click the
link. I'd do it before I sent you to Media Matters or MoveOn
or even the New York Times.
\_ I only shortened to the link because it was over 80
columns. It's not a porn site.
\_ Don't be disingenuous. It takes less than four
seconds to write a useful descriptive comment. -dans,!PP
\_ So anyway, is Cair lying or not? -someone else
\_ So anyway, is op being disingenuous or not?
\_ I neither know nor care. Were you failing to
make a point or just following in the OP's proud
disingenuous footsteps? -dans
\_ Funny. I see it the exact opposite way. I
don't care if the OP is disingenous or not
because it doesn't matter. It matters a lot
more when a monied lobbying group lies. That
is what I care about. They either did or did
not. Which is it? -!op
\_ Dunno about dans, but for me the issue isn't
the pristine integrity of the org, rather
the good that they do.
\_ My thinking tends to be similar, though
for different reasons. My working
assumption is that virtually all
politicians and/or political
organizations are, to some extent,
dirty or corrupt. Want to take CAIR to
task? More power to you, but don't
discriminate. Take every dirty
organization/politician, regardless of
political ideology, to task. -dans
\_ I'm opposed to all dirty orgs. The
op posted a link about this particular
one so that is the topic. Did they or
did they not lie? And as far as the
'good' that CAIR does, I'd be most
impressed to see a list of their
positive accomplishments for this
country. Given their foreign cash
sources, past statements, and ties
to anti-American foreign orgs I don't
think the plus column for CAIR is
very long.
\_ If you're opposed to all dirty
orgs, who do you like, then?
\_ Pet rescue. Money for children
of vets killed/injured in war
to go to college. Children's
reading book donation programs.
A few others. CAIR doesn't
make the list of 'good' orgs by
any measure. There are *no*
good political orgs I'm aware
of. I'm surprised you couldn't
think of a clean non-profit org.
\_ The Catholic Church
\_ Mother Teresa: corrupt,
malignant dwarf. -Hitchens
\_ Re: The Holocaust: oops.
But, no, really the Pope has
a direct line to God who is
infallible.
Re: Widespread sexual abuse
of children at the hands of
priests: Oops. We'll just
sweep this under the rug
because it would really suck
if people sued us. -dans |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:48319 Activity:low |
10/15 Things you may not have read about Sanchez's comments:
1) "The American military finds itself in an intractable situation ...
America has no choice but to continue our efforts in Iraq,"
2) "What is clear to me is that you are perpetuating the corrosive
partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our
service members who are at war. My assessment is that your profession,
to some, has strayed from these ethical standards and allowed external
agendas to manipulate what the American public sees on TV, reads in
newspapers and what they see on the Web," Sanchez said.
http://www.fairandbalanced.com/story/0,2933,301676,00.html
\_ Did he say this to a Fox News reporter?
\_ In his speech to the Military Reporters and Editors Association
in Washington, D.C., on Friday....
\_ I love the lefties who censor the URL. Shows their hypocrisy so
\_ Yes, I know, I was making a joke. Even funnier that he said
it to a bunch of Stars and Stripe's reporters.
\_ Full transcript
http://www.militaryreporters.org/sanchez_101207.html
\_ I love the commies who censor the URL. Shows their hypocrisy so
well.
\_ Sup jblack, long time no motd!
\_ I'm not jblack. -pp |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Uncategorized] UID:48320 Activity:nil |
10/13 People say blondes are dumb. Is this primarily due to genes,
environment, or media rumor? What does The Bell Curve say about
blondes?
\_ Really, blondes aren't any dumber than anyone else. They're
just seen as more beautiful and desirable, so everyone else
wants to put them down somehow just out of envy.
\_ While that's true, I've also noticed that, in general, people
who can get by on looks tend to do so. This tends to reduce the
amount of experience they get in other areas. Experience creates
knowledge, which is a commonly used as a metric for intelligence.
\_ I'm not so sure how much people can actually "get by on looks".
If they're "getting by on looks" it often means they're
getting used because they've got looks.
\_ Lots of movie stars are as dumb as rocks.
\_ These are not mutually exclusive and in fact often go
hand-in-hand. People who get by on their looks often
expect to be used for their looks, if they think about it.
\_ People who dye their hair blonde are probably dumber than the
average--and that accounts for most "blondes".
\_ I did see a blonde do the "roll on you bears" cheer in the
opposite direction at a game few weeks ago. |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Uncategorized] UID:48321 Activity:nil |
10/15 Talk about bringing a gun to a knife fight:
link:www.mercurynews.com/ci_7183508?source=rss
\_ Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn! |
| 2007/10/15 [Uncategorized] UID:48322 Activity:nil 64%like:48314 |
10/15 It occured to me this morning that treating trools as equal to real
thoughts so far, been a poor choice. This suggests the practice
will probably die out eventually.
\_ Why delete my reply? |
| 2007/10/15 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic] UID:48323 Activity:nil |
10/15 Sexist and racist remarks deleted, regardless of proofs & facts.
\_ Can facts be sexist? I've always thought only untrue statments can
be sexist or racist. Is "men are generally stronger than women"
sexist? What about "black people are darker than white people?"
Or, "men cannot become pregnant?"
\_ Reality doesn't have liberal bias after all. |
| 2007/10/15 [Politics/Domestic] UID:48324 Activity:nil 66%like:48325 |
10/15 Harry Reid sucks (yes, even in NV)
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/10/at-home-in-neva.html |
| 2007/10/15-18 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48325 Activity:kinda low 66%like:48324 |
10/15 Reid sucks (yes even in NV) [restored, after someone deleted it]
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/10/at-home-in-neva.html
\_ Tied with Bush!
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
\_ Except one terms out. The other we're stuck with til he dies
of old age.
\_ If he's as unpopular as op implies, he'll be out at the next
election. Want to make a bet?
\_ His popularity appears to me to be linked to his leadership
position. People see the congress as ineffective, and that
goes to his leadership of it.
\_ Actually Bush is now at 24%, according to Zogby:
http://www.csua.org/u/jqu (WashPo)
But who do you believe, Fox News! which has Bush
at 35% or Zogby which has him at 24%?
\_ I bet he gets re-elected, since he won last time by
26% and he does not face re-election until 2010.
\_ Depends on who runs but betting against an incumbent, any
incumbent, in this country is always a bad bet. That says
nothing about how good our incumbents are and everything
about the process of electing people. Reid is still a
do-nothing. |
| 2007/10/15-18 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:48326 Activity:low |
10/15 The House pushing a resolution about the Armenian Genocide,
The president asks the Speaker of the House to pull the legislation
from the floor.
Year: 2000
Speaker: Hastert
President: Clinton
http://csua.org/u/jqi
(Washington Post)
\_ In 2000 we didn't need Turkey to short path supplies to our
soldiers. Was that your point?
\_ Setting up for the old Dolchstosslegende so soon? I guess
you guys have finally seen that your crazy crusade is going
to fail.
\_ The washington post, right wing super conservative news
organ, disagrees with you. If you think pissing off your
closest allies during war is good diplomacy.... |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:48327 Activity:moderate |
10/15 First Baby Boomer files for Social Security. DOOM!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071015/ap_on_go_ot/boomer_social_security
\_ Oh shit! They're going to bankrupt the nation. Let's kill them.
\_ How so? Social Security is a cornerstone of the socialist
promise. You don't want SS but you want universal health care?
*boggle*!
\_ *I* don't want either.
\_ Your disk has turned black. Please report to the Carousel.
\_ lifeclocks turn flashing red at time of renewal. |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Health, Health/Men] UID:48328 Activity:nil |
10/15 New "the Wire" out soon
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_talbot?printable=true |
| 2007/10/15-17 [Health/Dental] UID:48329 Activity:nil |
10/15 Brit socialized medicine so great that they're pulling out their own
teeth: (cnn.com)
http://csua.org/u/jql
\_ obAustinPowersJoke |
| 2007/10/15 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:48330 Activity:nil |
10/15 It occured t'me dis mo'nin' dat treatin' honky chicks as equal t'men
has, so's far, been some poo' choice evolushunarily. Slap mah fro! Dis
suggests de practice gots'ta probably kick d' cud out eventually. Slap
mah fro!
\_ What do you mean? Fewer offspring? Fewer offspring may be the
only long-term viable evolutionary strategy due to environmental
limits.
\_ That's a salient point, but it requires that all societies agree
to limit reproduction. You may get two sets of societies, 'the
moral slow reproducers' and the 'immoral fast reproducers.' There
will still be an environmental catastrophe, but the fast
reproducers will have many more people than the slow reproducers.
The result is the fast reproducers wipe out the slow reproducers
in resource wars. There is historical precedence.
\_ Historical precedent is invalidated by technological
advantage. When the slow reproducers have a massive military
technological advantage due to not living at or below bare
subsistence, numbers won't matter.
\_ This assumes that the slow reproducers live in segregated
political states. In reality there are slow vs. fast within
each political entity, especially now with multicultural
immigrant states. Therefore in the long run we have the
same result.
Multicultural states are therefore bad for the species,
because they lead to global homogenizing of cultures.
Diversity decreases in favor of the fastest-growing
domininant subcultures, leaving the population as a
whole at greater risk.
\_ Or you can get mass die off of the fast reproducers, which
we will probably see in a generation or two. |
| 2007/10/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48331 Activity:moderate |
10/15 "Obama is a Muslim" smear campaign still around
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=9137C354-3048-5C12-000A32656C8CAEA4
\_ Let's assume he is a Muslim. So what? Romney is a Mormon. So
what? The person least likely to get elected in this country is
an atheist.
\_ And still they feel the need to attack him as a Muslim, mostly
on guilt by association. "You know, that Obama Hussien guy,
he looks awful swarthy to me." It's racist pandering pure
he looks awful dark to me." It's racist pandering pure
and simple. Racist pandering bugs me.
\_ And Romney gets attacked for being a Mormon. So? Does that
bug you, too?
\_ But isn't Romney really a Mormon? Isn't Obama actually
an Episcapalian or something?
\_ Frankly, Romney getting attacked for actually being a
Mormon is less disturbing to me than Obama getting attacked
for being a Muslim when he is not. The issue here is not
Obama's religion (a dumb reason to attack anyone, even
Romney), but scandalous lies spread to harm a candidate.
Cf. John McCain's black babies. |
| 2007/10/15-18 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:48332 Activity:moderate |
10/15 Republicans working on the "Stab In The Back Myth"
for use after our defeat in Iraq:
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/06/0081080
\_ More at:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071015/alterman
\_ that sounds like traitor talk to me!
\_ It is funny to watch the Right in full on paranoid melt-down mode.
Just wait until after Commander-In-Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton
is inaugurated!
\_ will the hills be far enough a place to head for?
\_ Oh boy, utopia, 4-8 more years of corruption, law breaking, lies
and *-gate scandals along with the troops staying in Iraq past
2013. Can't wait. Sounds like an American success story.
\_ Fortunately, Bush can't run again, Cheney won't run, and
BushCo has made it extraordinarily unlikely that a Repub
will win, so the problem is solved!
\_ Uh yeah, like I said. Elect Clinton to get 4-8 more years
of corruption, lies, *gate and troops in Iraq past 2013.
\_ If Hillary can figure out how to get fellated in the
Oval Office, more power to her.
\_ Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
We won't get fooled again!
\_ Looks like the Sanchez speech was all part of the mythos building:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_disgruntled_general
\_ No, the article in your link is about "Sanchez was an idiot and
he's bitter so this is him moaning and griping about his failures
and blaming everyone but himself". |
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