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2002/9/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:25847 Activity:high
9/11    http://www.msnbc.com/news/806174.asp?cp1=1 on Nelson Mandela saying
        the United States is a threat to world peace.  I gave up on the second
        line where it says "Sentenced to life in prison on desolate Robben
        Island...".  Yes he was held by the government but at least be honest
        about it; it was a palatial estate the likes of which I can never
        dream of affording.  I'd gladly give up my job and life here to be
        held captive at his former prison/estate.
        \_ would you really want to be captive in one spot for 25
           years?  not that I think mandela is the greatest, no one mentions
           that he used to be a terrorist.  granted, fighting the aparteid
           policies of south africa almost excused just about anything.
           his wife waited for him for 25 years, then he divorced
           her for some sweet young thing just as soon as he was
           released from jail. - danh
           \_ 25 years in paradise?  Would you turn down a ticket to Heaven
              for eternity too?  Don't forget all those burning tires around
              the necks of non-ANC blacks.
        \- from the pictures i have seen of his cell it didnt seem palatial.
           do you have a picture? being married to winnie mandela was probably
           a worse sentence. ok tnx.
           \_ He was held in confinement (yes, prison) not in a cell for most
              of the time on a gorgeous estate.  I saw pics in a magazine.
        \_ Other views around the world are similar:
           http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/oneyearlater/livesChanged_good.html
           I had no idea the Koreans hated us that much. Anyone got a link
           to the video mentioned in the article?
           \_ http://koreawave.sohu.com/66/80/article201698066.shtml
           \_ OBYankeeGoHome!
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