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2008/3/11-13 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:49421 Activity:high
3/10    Exhaustive Pentagon review finds no Saddam/Al Qaeda link:
        http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/v-print/story/29959.html
        "An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were
        captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that
        Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin
        Laden's al Qaida terrorist network."
        \_ 600k documents really isn't that many although it sounds impressive
           there are still many millions no one has looked at yet.  I find it
           amusing that the article states several times the Saddam was
           distrustful of religious terrorists being a secular strongman and
           then gives a list of all the religious terrorist groups he
           supported.
        \_ We're busy trying to find the link between Al Qaida and Barack
           Hussein Obama now!
           \_ Obama with an 's' is Osama, what bigger link do you want?
              \_ Barack -> Iraq
                 Hussein -> ...
                 Obama -> Osama
                 It's all there right under our noses! Really, it's
                 careless of the Illuminati. They are getting cocky and
                 toying with us. Of course, Obama is really an artificial
                 being, engineered to be the optimally appealing candidate
                 at this point in time. Thus the ethnic mix, the
                 speechmaking styles that are a composite of Kennedy and
                 MLK Jr, and the exhortations of change designed to
                 perpetuate the facade of democracy while They continue
                 to pull our strings.
                 \_ Hey good point. I never considered the possibility that
                    Obama might be an Alien-Human hybrid created by MJ12.
                    Obama might be an Alien-Human hybrid created MJ12.
                    \_ MJ12 isn't a "thing" like a creature.  It is an
                       organization.  If you're going to get all conspiracy,
                       get it right.  --UFO lover
                       \_ Corrected. I was missing the "by."
                          \_ So you claim!  How do we know you're really you?
                             What agency do you work for?  Why are you trying
                             to create a disinformation campaign?
                    Obama might be an Alien-Human hybrid created MJ12.
                             \_ It's all to throw us off the real scent. Just
                                like Obama's name. I don't think it's careless.
                                There is always a meaning, we just need to find
                                it. Think! What would "created MJ12" mean?
                                It's a clue about the origin of MJ12! And
                                hybrid? Hybrids... Toyota is involved somehow.
                                Layers upon layers...
                                \_ Toyota and Templar both start with T,
                                   curiouser and curiouser.
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Print This Article Posted on Mon, Mar 10, 2008 Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam and al Qaida Warren P Strobel | McClatchy Newspapers last updated: March 10, 2008 07:39:58 PM WASHINGTON -- An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 US invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network. The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, US officials told McClatchy. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime. 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