6/20    For the purposes of user apps, what would the approximate performance
        equivalents be for Sun's SPARC{5,10,20,Ultra10} on the Intel scale,
        assuming same specs on everything but CPU? (user apps is meant to
        refer to non-realtime, non-graphics/DSP intensive, non-float intensive;
        just, say, an office suite)
        \_ you are a stupid idiot with poor critical thinking skills.
        \_ http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu95/results/res99q4/cpu95-19991206-03938.html
           As far as user apps, you're going to have a hard time finding
           the equivalents of Office 97 or PhotoShop on Solaris systems.
                \_ Doh, staroffice, what a bloated piece of junk. My P166
                   runs MS Office apps faster all at once than a brand new
                   Ultra5 runs StarOffice.
                \_ StarOffice or Applix, PhotoShop or Gimp, not that hard.
           \_ don't start this holy war; that was meant as a hypothetical
              situation. thanks for the spec95 link
        \_ Most of the machines you list are 7-8 years old, around the time
           \_ I realize that. It's not an issue of whether Sun or Intel
              r00L3z more. These are the machines I have available
              unfortunately, so I just wanted to see where they fit in.
              \_ Ultra10 is Ok desktop box. SS5/10/20 are fine as long as
                 they have decent CPUs (+100Mhz), 128MB RAM, and decent
                 disks (2GB or larger).
              \_ basically Intel is cheaper and faster CPU, but SPARC
                 workstations are used more often to do real work
                 because Sun offers a complete performance package.
                 \_ Would you call Ultra5 or Ultra10 a "performance package"?
           of the 486 and very early (very hot) Pentiums (60-90Mhz).
        \_ For me, one SETI@home work unit usually takes 26-27 hours on a
           Sparc20 with a 150MHz "Ross RT626" CPU (whatever that is), while it
           usually takes 11-12 hours on a PII 350MHz.  Both are running text
           versions.  So maybe a PII 350MHz is more than twice as fast as a
           Sparc20.  But then this is floating-point intensive, so maybe it
           doesn't count.  --- yuen
           \_ Did they do a lot of optimizing?  I was doing 26.5 hours per
              \_ I don't know, but on the PII it has been roughly the same
                 speed for me since v1.2.  -- yuen
              unit on a p2-450 6 months ago.
              \_ Times were A LOT shorter if you disabled the graphics.
                        \_ Linux is 3-4 times faster at setiathome than
                   \_ Aw, it's just a fancy Qume terminal.
                \_ Uh, i dont think that sunray is a workstation...do me
                   a favor: Type "/usr/platform/sun4u/sbin/prtdiag" and
                   "uptime" tell us the machine model, the amount of RAM,
                   the number of CPUs, and the amount of cache on each CPU,
                   the memory banks size and intrlv.
                        \_ caught by the troll, hook line & sinker.
                        \_ If anyone is curious: Sun Enterprise E4500
                           159 users, 10240 MB RAM, 8 CPUs(each with
                           8MB cache running at 400Mhz).
                           Never seen anything so fast.
                        \_ Except an E10000 that I had to myself for awhile :)
                           Windows 9x on identical hardware.  -tom
                        \_ I was using NT.  I don't think it had an option to
                           disable graphics.  I got bored and uninstalled it
                           after they started feeding the same packets for
                           three days.
           \_ A co-worker set up some seti stuff on my workstation.
              It produced 5871 WU today. What does that mean?
              I dont know what kind of CPU it has, but my computer is about
              3/4th the size of a laptop and has "SunRay" written on it.
                \_ You're using an old model SunRay - the new ones are much
                   faster and look just like a monitor or flat panel display.
                   SETI WU's fly through them.