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2008/2/11-14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:49116 Activity:nil
2/11    Awesome. Pennies and Nickels are now worth twice their face value in
        metals.
        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/07/60minutes/main3801455.shtml
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We're talking about those insignificant one cent pieces in your pocket or purse. It may or may not come as a surprise that it now costs the US Mint almost two cents to make a penny and almost a dime to make a nickel. As correspondent Morley Safer discovered, even in Washington, where they literally have the right to print money and where anything under a billion is chump change, there is an ongoing debate over whether it's worth the trouble to keep making cents. Every year, the US Mint turns out eight billion shiny new pennies, using hi-tech presses that operate faster than the eye can see, stamping out Abe Lincoln on blank pieces of metal. And, says US Mint Director Edmund Moy, despite inflation, despite their lowly status, eight billion pennies still add up to $80 million. Trouble is, to get $80 million in pennies, the government spends $134 million; to produce 13 billion nickels, as the Mint did last year, costs $124 million, even though the coins are worth about only half that much. "It's weird economics, when you really come down to it, isn't it?" "Well, from our perspective at the United States Mint it's unsustainable. You can't sustain losses on pennies and nickels and expect to be a viable organization that benefits the American people," Moy says. And worldwide demand for copper, nickel and zinc have dramatically increased over the last three years. That's what's primarily driving up the cost of making the penny and nickel," Moy explains. On the frenzied commodity exchange, the price of copper has tripled in the last five years; Both are in heavy demand, used in everything from electrical wiring to suntan lotion, so both coins are worth less than the metals they contain. But if you're thinking of putting in a backyard smelter and melting down your spare change to make a profit, forget it. Asked if there was a fear that people would melt their pennies and sell them by the pound, Moy tells Safer, "Well, you know, other countries that have been in the same situation have ended up having shortages because people melt them. My colleagues in India at the Indian mint have noted that once the rupee became more valuable melted down as razor blades they disappeared overnight. And there was a shortage of rupees that India is still recovering from." In the five o'clock shadow of the rupee's close shave, Washington is considering ways to reduce the cost of making pennies and nickels. Among them, giving the mint authority to use cheaper metals, like steel. And though efforts in Congress to retire the penny altogether have failed in past years, its detractors say the time has come. "Inflation has rendered the penny nearly valueless, right? If you cant buy anything with a penny, if it takes at least a nickel or a dime to buy anything, then that individual unit just doesn't serve much good," argues Stephen Dubner, the co-author of the bestseller "Freakonomics," a zany look at money and American culture. He puts the penny in the same category as your pesky appendix and other useless relics. "Its like having a fifth and a half finger on your hand," Dubner says, laughing. "I have to trim the nail, I gotta buy five and a half fingered gloves. Dubner concedes the country suffers from "pennycitis" - a love affair with the penny that's hard to shake. After all, who's on it but that true American Idol honest Abe Lincoln, who, as a young store clerk, walked three miles to return six pennies he'd overcharged a customer. "I think that the two big reasons to keep the penny are inertia, 'cause it takes a lot of work to get rid of something thats ingrained, and nostalgia. But you need to put a price on even nostalgia," he says. What about the sentimental attachments people have to the penny? "But I would argue that, you know, in the old days you might have said 'A penny for your thoughts' as a nice kind of way of saying, you know, whatever youre daydreaming about, its worth something. A penny for my thoughts, what are you, what are you, its only worth a penny? So I try to teach them early on not to get any pennies to get rounded up or rounded down at any opportunity," he explains. "When we play Monopoly at home we get rid of the ones and the fives. Eye To Eye: Antarctica's Penguins(3:42) How will Antarctica's penguins adapt to climate change? John Blackstone spoke to a researcher studying penguin colonies at the bottom of the world. Hillary Clinton(13:12) Katie Couric interviews Hillary Rodham Clinton as the race for the Democratic presidential nomination between her and Barack Obama grows tighter.