11/10 Besides providing endless material for comedians, what will Clinton
be remembered for? ie, what difference did he make in our lives?
\_ (1) NAFTA
\_ Started by Bush. Clinton didn't have much to do with it.
\_ Why don't you do a search on google using "NAFTA Clinton"?
(2) Suckering China into lots of WTO concessions.
\_ Getting suckered by China is more like it.
\_ In that case why did the Republicans in Congress
voted overwhelmingly for it, and Clinton had to
put great efforts into convincing the Democrats
to vote for it? Are you saying that the Republican
representatives are all suckers?
\_ I'm quite unhappy about that.
\_ Maybe you should vote for Democratic congressmen
next time then.
\_ No they went along with it too. Buchanan
should run. I'd vote (and have voted) for
him. He'd do the right thing.
\_ I feel sorry for you. Thanks for letting
us know though.
(3) Prevented trade protectionism from rearing its ugly head.
\_ Sold out American jobs to cheap far east slave labor.
\_ (3.5) Reduced unemployment to lowest level in decades.
\_ Unempolyment was reduced because companies needed
workers in order to expand and increase profitability.
They were able to expand because of the tax breaks
and reduced regulation enacted by Congress not
because of anything that Clinton did.
Clinton can be given minor credit for not screwing
it up.
\_ You think M$, Dell, Cisco, Motorola and Sun can
expand during a trade war with Europe and Asia?
(4) Reduced crime all across America.
\_ While breaking countless laws.
\_ The only law breaker is Ronald Reagan during the
Iran-Contra affair.
\_ That Col. North, not RWR, get your facts
straight.
\_ Senator Bob Packwood: "I can't remember."
Ronald Reagan: "I can't remember."
\_ And Al Gore with his illegal arms deals hidden
from congress.
(5) Improved race relations.
\_ Didn't the LA Riots happen under his watch.
\_ Sure. April 1992, right after 12 years of Republican
rule.
\_ Bush was president in 4/92.
\_ There you go. I stand corrected.
(6) Trashing Milosevic and the Serbian nationalist butchers.
\_ (1) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(2) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(3) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(4) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(5) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(6) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(7) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(8) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(9) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(11) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(12) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(13) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(14) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(15) MTBE
\_ Putting American soliders in danger to divert
attention from his crimes.
\_ Defeated the biggest threat to Western Civilization
since the fall of the USSR with zero combat losses.
\_ Butted in where he had no business being.
\_ Another nice little democracy created as
a result of actions of President Clinton.
(7) Spanked Saddam Hussein whenever he tried to be naughty.
\_ see (6)
\_ If that's what you think, you should blame Bush
Sr. for not finishing the war.
\_ I do.
(8) Turned budget deficits into budget surpluses.
\_ No. Please see yesterday's refutation of this.
The Republican congress is solely responsible
for this.
\_ Nope. Bill gets credit for it.
\_ Prove it. The numbers say otherwise.
\_ Your numbers only show a corelation between
a Clinton/Republican Congress combination and
a healthy budget.
\_ No, Clinton's true nature is displayed
in his first two terms. Also the growth
was limited in the first two years where
he fought congress. When congress prevail
despite Clinton, America was prosperous.
Clinton didn't do anything except know
when not to screw up a working formula.
\_ The "numbers" for which you are so
proud of has been reduced to just
an opinion / interpretation.
Me? My opinion is that a divided
presidency/congress is good for the
budget. A Republican presidency
and congress results in
(9) Reduced tension in the Korean peninsula.
\_ Yeah, now that N Korea has nukes.
\_ Are you that dumb?
\_ Are you?
\_ Clinton stopped N Korea from continuing
with its nuclear bomb program.
\_ No. He gave it enough time to cover it
up. They are still as deadly as ever.
(10) Promoted the development of the Internet.
\_ No. Unless you count increased traffic from the
White House to "adult-content" sites.
(11) Good effort at attempting to solve the Northern Ireland
problem.
\_ Attempting to solve? The Catholics and the Protestant
got together and promised to stop killing each other.
(The IRA still hasn't lived up to its part). Clinton
didn't do jack, except make things worse.
\_ How did Clinton "make things worse"?
(12) Good effort at attempting to solve the Palestine problem.
\_ Yeah. The killing of Israeli soldiers by Palestinian
mobs quite a good effort at peace.
\_ So what do you suggest? Kill all the Palestinians?
\_ Let the Israelis and the Palestinian criminals
work it out. If you read the WSJ, you will know
that the entire Palestine thing is a crock.
\_ That's what Clinton is trying to do!
\_ Uh, no. Clinton is trying to get Israel to
give up everything. Palestine is a crock.
The Palestinians are criminal terrorists.
Israel should deal with them as such.
(13) Improved education.
\_ Sex Ed?
(14) Improved relations with India.
\_ Went to India != improved relations. India still doesn't
like the US because Presidents like Carter and Clinton
want to tell everyone else how to live, and India can't
stand that.
\_ It's a start.
\_ No. Clinton's policy to India is a setback.
India wants to be left alone to determine
its own destiny, Clinton by refusing to allow
this has created problems for future relations.
\_ Nope, India wants and needs a good
relation to the US.
\_ No it doesn't. India has the technical
ability to build everything it needs in
India. It doesn't rely on any nation for
support.
(15) Showed that he is a president who cared about ordinary
Americans unlike Newt I-was-slighted-on-AirForceOne-so-
the-American-people-should-suffer-with-me-and-not-get-their-
paycheck Gingrich.
\_ Shutting down the government saved millions of dollars.
It was a good move. The American people did not suffer
because of Newt. The Contract With America was a huge
success.
\_ What the heck is "Contract With America"?
\_ It was a 10+ point plan for revitalizing and
rescuing America from the Clinton vision. It
worked.
(16) Bash up Big Tobacco, proving that they lied to Congress and
the American people about the harmful effects of smoking.
\_ Hi, I'm a poor idiot who never knew that smoking was
bad for me eventhough the carton said that it was
harmful to my health. Yeah, only the democrats would
pursue this.
\_ Get a clue. That's not the problem.
\_ What's the damn problem. If some bone head wants
to smoke, let him.
(17) Stopped Microsoft from continuing to use its monopolistic
powers to bully other people.
\_ No. A federal judge (Republican, Reagan Appointee) did
this.
\_ Thank goodness he did, but the prosecution is the
US government, headed by Clinton.
\_ The procesutions case was pretty damn weak. The
judge made a big leap in writing his verdict.
(18) Reduced the number of people on welfare.
\_ The got jobs. The only way that the got them jobs is
if the federal gov. hired them; some perhaps, but not
most. The jobs were created by a strong economy which
came about because of tax cuts from a Republican
congress. Supply Side Economics. It works.
\_ He reduced the number of people ELIGIBLE for welfare,
so THEN they got off their lazy asses and got jobs.
\_ Garbage! The strong economy is due to
productivity growth.
\_ The economy is due to business expansion and
revenue increases. These are due to businesses
having greater capital to work with and fewer
limitations. These are due to Congress.
\_ All the economists agree that high growth
without inflation only happens with
productivity growth.
\_ You both have condom lubricant for brains.
What will Bush Sr. be remembered for?
\_ For chipping away at the rule of law. Not much else.
\_ He kept the Internet tax-free and uncensored. He ordered the
removal of built-in error in GPS systems. He helped initiate the
break-up of Microsoft and the beginning of the fall of tobbacco
companies. -tom
\_ The internet is tax-free because of the senate. Specifically
bills co-sponsored by Sen. McCain (R-Az). Uncensored, well
that's good and bad, not really that important. Breaking up
M$ is good, but the actual legal action was taken by a
Reagan appointee. The anti-tobacco bs was completely wrong.
Its like the prohibition, and we all know how effective that
was.
Clinton will be remembered for the failure in Haiti, the
failure of the camp david accords, the death of 17 sailors
on the USS Cole, the death of dozens of US citizens in
\_ err?? Are you that wasn't terrorist's work? If you
want to blame a defense embarassment, don't forget Somalia
Sure Bush sent them, but it was Clinton appointee Aspin
who denied them armor.
\_ Okay, the Somalia debacle is one more thing that
Clinton will be remembered for.
embassy bombings, the sell out of our national security to
the chinese, the weakening of our national defense, a total
and utter disregard for the constitution and the law, and
perhaps most appropriately, he will be remembered for getting
a "Lewinsky".
The sad part is that compared to Bush and Gore, Clinton looks
pretty good. I guess he understood (to some degree) the role
of the president, which is not to wield power, but rather to
draw attention from it through acts of finely judge outrage
(to paraphrase Douglas Adams). |
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