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| 2000/11/10 [Uncategorized] UID:19704 Activity:nil |
11/9 http://www.newaus.com.au/us162cw.html Australian site pretty much nails it perfectly. |
| 2000/11/10 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:19705 Activity:nil |
11/9 I'm having a problem with pam and openssh. Anyone know what
the /etc/pam.d/sshd file ought to look like? |
| 2000/11/10 [Uncategorized] UID:19706 Activity:kinda low |
11/9 There are ambiguities all over Aiken's exams. The guy can't write
a fuckin straightforward exam. He must be from Palm Beach.
\_ Can I get a "do-over" on his exams until I like the results?
\_ I want to "do-over" my undergrad grades until I like them.
Should I sue the regents in a friendly court? |
| 2000/11/10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:19707 Activity:high |
11/9 Why is everyone so excited about this election. People at work
people on the motd, people on wall.log? I don't think my "guy"
will win, and I think the other "guy" is that good, but it just
doesn't seem like it matters all that much.
\_ Then *please* don't vote next time. Only people who care should be
voting. The rest of you, *please* stay home and watch sitcoms.
\_ I voted, I'm unhappy that the results are not clear, but
its not a big deal. Life goes on. Its not like the guy
who wins is going to be king for life.
\_ I picture George "Dubya" Bush as President. It strikes fear
into my heart.
\_ NO! we can't let the forces of evil win yet again.
( i still wish nader had won though)
\_ You are opposed to a Gore victory as well. WOW!
I though I was the only one.
\_ I picture him as President and its not awe inspiring.
I picutre Gore and its a little depressing, but still
it doesn't seem to matter a whole lot. In fact Clinton
looks a lot more appealing than any of the guys that
were running this time. I guess thats pretty sorry
\_ Perjury. Murder. Treason.
since Clinton is one of the worst presidents we have
ever had.
\_ Clinton is my hero!
\_ You need higher standards.
\_ so what exactly did he do to make him the worst?
come on name something so henious he did.
\_ Rape. Treason. Anything else needed?
\_ Perjury. Murder. Treason. nut kicking.
\_ The only rapist is Republican senator
Bob Packwood.
\- the only murderer is Democratic Senator
Edward Kennedy.
\_ That wasn't murder. Poor Edward was drunk
at the time and uhm... ok nevermind.
\_ Guess he was a little unluckier than
Bush Jr. when DUI.
\_ No, he had better connections and
a more "understanding" father.
\_ "Read my lips. No more abortion!"
\_ So?
\_ Wouldn't it be funny if the Speaker of the House had to
take over in January? What would we call him? iPresident?
\_ We'd call him President Hastert.
\_ It's all about Jessie the Body Ventura.
\_ So I wonder who Jessie would be "stealing votes from" if
he'd launched a 50 state campaign? Just a random though.
\_ Ventura versus Hillary in 2004. You heard it here
first. |
| 2000/11/10 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:19708 Activity:high |
11/9 Ok, looking at a close-up of the disputed Palm Beach ballot, WTF
is the problem?? The "5->" clearly points to one hole.
\_ the problem is you are looking at the ballot knowing that
there is an issue.
\_ Ok, suppose I'm a Palm Beach resident. I go into the booth
not knowing there's any problem, and knowing I want to vote
for Gore. How could I possibly punch "<-4" and not "5->"?
\_ I see Gore is second, so I punch the second hole.
\_ it was set up with the intention of confusing voters
that don't bother reading the ballot. I mean, why the
hell the second major opponent (whether democratic
or republican) be "the third hole?!!!" Most normal
ballots have the two major political forces as the
first two holes. I smell a conspiracy...as pointed
out on television, why would this type of ballot only
exist in a county there the majority of residents
(blacks and jewish) are pro-Gore? It doesn't add up.
\_ A conspiracy? Uhm, yeah. The ballot was created by
Democrats. Approved by Democrats. Published in the
newspapers. What friggin conspiracy? This wasn't
a hidden secret ballot popped up out of nowhere on
the unsuspecting populace. And while you're at it,
please explain how this conspiracy has changed the
results in other places like, oh, say, the exact same
ballot format where Jesse Jackson and "My Dad Stole
1960" Daley voted?
\_ apart from the much publicized "x to the right of
the name," the fact that Gore was the third hole
might also make the ballot illegal since Florida
law dictates that the candidates be listed in the
order of finish in the last gubernatorial race,
and I'm pretty sure the Reform Party didn't finish
second
\_ NO! NO! NO! GO READ THE LAW! Stop getting your
news off the tube! *I* _read_ the law and it does
*not* in any way dictate any such thing! Stop
spreading lies and propoganda! --Nader'04!
\_ Well, nowhere in the Constitution does it say voters have
to have any intelligence to vote. It's their own damn
fault for not reading & understanding the ballot clearly.
\_ Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that
voters should be given illegal ballots.
\_ its not illegal. Forms like that have been
used in the past, and the Democratic Official
for that area approved that ballot.
\_ Gore people are working to prove that it
is illegal. I think that's as much as can
be said on the pro-Gore side. And control
yourself next time, Senor "Prove it, bitch".
\_ That's a much different (and weaker) assertion
than "Florida law says it's illegal." Why
not admit you simply did not speak the truth?
Bitch.
\_ People like you need to sign their names.
Really.
\_ Nah. He just need a good bitch slap.
\_ Some of us (me) actually found the law on the
official Florida website. The idea that this
ballot was in any way illegal is a sham.
\_ Actually, it is technically illegal. By
Florida state law, the Democratic option
was supposed to be placed where Pat
Buchanan's spot was (which wasn't the case).
See S101.151(4) and S101.191(1999)
\_ Go re-read the entire law. This is not
so. Don't pick and choose individual
lines that support a particular
conclusion. The lawyers get paid a lot
more than you to do that already.
\_ It's 95% clear, that is, it was clear to 95% of Gore voters
in Palm Beach.
\_ also, it penalizes only stupid gore supporters. stupid bush
supporters were not given the same dilemma.
\_ There was no dilemma, only people too stupid to vote.
\_ But they are able to vote. Some of them must support Bush.
Those ones didn't have to be smart enough to read directions.
Besides, with a margin of 0.01% or so, the too-stupid-too-vote
probably make the difference.
\_ You really want the "too-stupid-too-vote" people deciding
who the President is? Honestly, if this was the exact same
situation except the names were reversed would you be saying
the vote in Hicktown, USA should get another chance bcause
Bubba was still hungover from his moonshine binge? No,
you probably wouldn't. Don't let your political bias color
your decision making process. --Nader'04! |
| 2000/11/10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:19709 Activity:high |
11/9 Gore went to Vietmam. Bush cowered at home.
\_ No, I cowArded at home. Get it right. -gwb
\_ and the he cowered in Seminary school.
\_ Until he flunked out. "Smartest man in the world!"
\_ Still, in terms of intelligence and courage, he
beats Dan-Qualye-in-cowboy-boots.
\_ Gore went to Vietnam for 3 months, took a few pics behind the lines
and went home. A true hero.
\_ Wrong. It's 5 months. Typical Republican misinformation.
5 months / 0 = infinity.
There is no such thing as "behind the lines" in Vietnam.
(Note: Vietnam Vets serve an average of 1 year in Vietnam.)
\_ As the son of a senator, Gore spent most of his time in
"protective custody". He never went to the front lines
in a combat capacity (ie, he was never shot at or shot
back). He pulled a few official shifts guarding the
barracks. I wouldn't call this being a hero.
Okay, Bush served in the NG learning to fly, but at least
he didn't burn his draft card like Clinton.
All of these guys don't inspire me. Personally, someone
like McCain is much better. He was a *hero* and he doesn't
brag about it.
\_ McCain may be batter, but not because he's a "War Hero."
Get over it, the 1950's are over, punkass. I'd love to
see YOU go out and "be a war hero." War is not glorious.
Being in the military really sucks. You're just another
pussy with macho GI Joe fantasies.
\_ I dunno if being taken prisoner exactly
qualifies one as being a "war hero"
\_ Hey! Don't be so mean. Bush Sr. also got shot
down instead of shooting down Japanese planes.
But hey! That's war. He is still a hero, and
in terms of military service:
Bush Sr. >> Gore >> Bush Jr.
\_ Clinton opposed the war, so he burnt his draft card.
Gore went to Vietnam even though his dad opposed the
war. Bush Jr. does not know what he believes in,
but he is too afraid to go, so he cowered at home,
and played with toy aeroplanes.
\ Bush Jr. flew F-18s. not exactly toy airplanes.
\_ When I grow up, I want to be an air force pilot,
flying in friendly skies. |
| 2000/11/10 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:19710 Activity:nil 57%like:19722 |
11/9 Typical Liberal, can't handle the truth. Here's the URL:
http://www.newaus.com.au/us162cw.html
Damn fine article.
\_ Here are some of the highlights:
Americans are facing a deadliest [sic] political force. The type that
spontaneously emerges overtime [sic]...
Gay Alcorn is another example of that destructive breed of lefitwing
[sic] journalists who are driven by ideology. [as opposed to this
guy]
Monopoly is one of those economic concepts that's slippier [sic] than a
greased pig on steroids...
Obviously, a well-reasoned and balanced article, written by an
articulate journalist. -tom |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Uncategorized] UID:19711 Activity:nil |
11/10 Real pictures of real protestors in FL.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a0b768f3649.htm
Very dramatic. Check it out.
\_ The last pic is quite funny. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:19712 Activity:nil |
11/10 http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/10/latimes.election.official For those of you wondering why all vote counts have been increasing in the recount. \_ Quote remove in the interst of space. Go to the URL if you care. Summary: punchcard machines don't work right if you fail to read directions and punch out your ballot without making sure the little piece of paper gets separated from the ballot. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:19713 Activity:nil |
11/10 http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment111000d.shtml Non-citizens voting? How can this be? |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Recreation/Humor] UID:19714 Activity:high |
11/10 this is for the "i will kick you in the nuts" censor and all the
other anonymous, cowardly censors: fuck you. mabeye everyone else thinks
these posts are stupid, and they can say so on their own. perhaps
they would think they are funny, but if you decide what people read and
don't read we'll never know. you are
the worst kind of bastard. doesn't anyone but me think "i will kick you
in the nuts"is funny?
\_ No. --Galen
\_ not really. -mice
\_ Not funny. ----ranga
\_ if it's so funny, why don't you sign your name, lafe? -tom
\_ I didn't think the nut kicker was censoring, just adding his one
line. -never kicked anyone in nuts
\_ fine! it's not funny. I won't do it anymore, and will suggest
that my partners in crime also stop. It would perhaps have been
kind of funny to some people for one day, and then it would ended
had certain censors not pissed me off so much. i'm sorry if people
really found it that annoying.
-lafe [motd formatting god was here]
\_ you're pathetic. maybe you should grow up before posting
to the motd again. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:19715 Activity:very high |
11/10 Besides providing endless material for comedians, what will Clinton
be remembered for? ie, what difference did he make in our lives?
\_ (1) NAFTA
\_ Started by Bush. Clinton didn't have much to do with it.
\_ Why don't you do a search on google using "NAFTA Clinton"?
(2) Suckering China into lots of WTO concessions.
\_ Getting suckered by China is more like it.
\_ In that case why did the Republicans in Congress
voted overwhelmingly for it, and Clinton had to
put great efforts into convincing the Democrats
to vote for it? Are you saying that the Republican
representatives are all suckers?
\_ I'm quite unhappy about that.
\_ Maybe you should vote for Democratic congressmen
next time then.
\_ No they went along with it too. Buchanan
should run. I'd vote (and have voted) for
him. He'd do the right thing.
\_ I feel sorry for you. Thanks for letting
us know though.
(3) Prevented trade protectionism from rearing its ugly head.
\_ Sold out American jobs to cheap far east slave labor.
\_ (3.5) Reduced unemployment to lowest level in decades.
\_ Unempolyment was reduced because companies needed
workers in order to expand and increase profitability.
They were able to expand because of the tax breaks
and reduced regulation enacted by Congress not
because of anything that Clinton did.
Clinton can be given minor credit for not screwing
it up.
\_ You think M$, Dell, Cisco, Motorola and Sun can
expand during a trade war with Europe and Asia?
(4) Reduced crime all across America.
\_ While breaking countless laws.
\_ The only law breaker is Ronald Reagan during the
Iran-Contra affair.
\_ That Col. North, not RWR, get your facts
straight.
\_ Senator Bob Packwood: "I can't remember."
Ronald Reagan: "I can't remember."
\_ And Al Gore with his illegal arms deals hidden
from congress.
(5) Improved race relations.
\_ Didn't the LA Riots happen under his watch.
\_ Sure. April 1992, right after 12 years of Republican
rule.
\_ Bush was president in 4/92.
\_ There you go. I stand corrected.
(6) Trashing Milosevic and the Serbian nationalist butchers.
\_ (1) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(2) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(3) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(4) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(5) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(6) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(7) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(8) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(9) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(11) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(12) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(13) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(14) Hey! I defeated Saddam Hussein.
(15) MTBE
\_ Putting American soliders in danger to divert
attention from his crimes.
\_ Defeated the biggest threat to Western Civilization
since the fall of the USSR with zero combat losses.
\_ Butted in where he had no business being.
\_ Another nice little democracy created as
a result of actions of President Clinton.
(7) Spanked Saddam Hussein whenever he tried to be naughty.
\_ see (6)
\_ If that's what you think, you should blame Bush
Sr. for not finishing the war.
\_ I do.
(8) Turned budget deficits into budget surpluses.
\_ No. Please see yesterday's refutation of this.
The Republican congress is solely responsible
for this.
\_ Nope. Bill gets credit for it.
\_ Prove it. The numbers say otherwise.
\_ Your numbers only show a corelation between
a Clinton/Republican Congress combination and
a healthy budget.
\_ No, Clinton's true nature is displayed
in his first two terms. Also the growth
was limited in the first two years where
he fought congress. When congress prevail
despite Clinton, America was prosperous.
Clinton didn't do anything except know
when not to screw up a working formula.
\_ The "numbers" for which you are so
proud of has been reduced to just
an opinion / interpretation.
Me? My opinion is that a divided
presidency/congress is good for the
budget. A Republican presidency
and congress results in
(9) Reduced tension in the Korean peninsula.
\_ Yeah, now that N Korea has nukes.
\_ Are you that dumb?
\_ Are you?
\_ Clinton stopped N Korea from continuing
with its nuclear bomb program.
\_ No. He gave it enough time to cover it
up. They are still as deadly as ever.
(10) Promoted the development of the Internet.
\_ No. Unless you count increased traffic from the
White House to "adult-content" sites.
(11) Good effort at attempting to solve the Northern Ireland
problem.
\_ Attempting to solve? The Catholics and the Protestant
got together and promised to stop killing each other.
(The IRA still hasn't lived up to its part). Clinton
didn't do jack, except make things worse.
\_ How did Clinton "make things worse"?
(12) Good effort at attempting to solve the Palestine problem.
\_ Yeah. The killing of Israeli soldiers by Palestinian
mobs quite a good effort at peace.
\_ So what do you suggest? Kill all the Palestinians?
\_ Let the Israelis and the Palestinian criminals
work it out. If you read the WSJ, you will know
that the entire Palestine thing is a crock.
\_ That's what Clinton is trying to do!
\_ Uh, no. Clinton is trying to get Israel to
give up everything. Palestine is a crock.
The Palestinians are criminal terrorists.
Israel should deal with them as such.
(13) Improved education.
\_ Sex Ed?
(14) Improved relations with India.
\_ Went to India != improved relations. India still doesn't
like the US because Presidents like Carter and Clinton
want to tell everyone else how to live, and India can't
stand that.
\_ It's a start.
\_ No. Clinton's policy to India is a setback.
India wants to be left alone to determine
its own destiny, Clinton by refusing to allow
this has created problems for future relations.
\_ Nope, India wants and needs a good
relation to the US.
\_ No it doesn't. India has the technical
ability to build everything it needs in
India. It doesn't rely on any nation for
support.
(15) Showed that he is a president who cared about ordinary
Americans unlike Newt I-was-slighted-on-AirForceOne-so-
the-American-people-should-suffer-with-me-and-not-get-their-
paycheck Gingrich.
\_ Shutting down the government saved millions of dollars.
It was a good move. The American people did not suffer
because of Newt. The Contract With America was a huge
success.
\_ What the heck is "Contract With America"?
\_ It was a 10+ point plan for revitalizing and
rescuing America from the Clinton vision. It
worked.
(16) Bash up Big Tobacco, proving that they lied to Congress and
the American people about the harmful effects of smoking.
\_ Hi, I'm a poor idiot who never knew that smoking was
bad for me eventhough the carton said that it was
harmful to my health. Yeah, only the democrats would
pursue this.
\_ Get a clue. That's not the problem.
\_ What's the damn problem. If some bone head wants
to smoke, let him.
(17) Stopped Microsoft from continuing to use its monopolistic
powers to bully other people.
\_ No. A federal judge (Republican, Reagan Appointee) did
this.
\_ Thank goodness he did, but the prosecution is the
US government, headed by Clinton.
\_ The procesutions case was pretty damn weak. The
judge made a big leap in writing his verdict.
(18) Reduced the number of people on welfare.
\_ The got jobs. The only way that the got them jobs is
if the federal gov. hired them; some perhaps, but not
most. The jobs were created by a strong economy which
came about because of tax cuts from a Republican
congress. Supply Side Economics. It works.
\_ He reduced the number of people ELIGIBLE for welfare,
so THEN they got off their lazy asses and got jobs.
\_ Garbage! The strong economy is due to
productivity growth.
\_ The economy is due to business expansion and
revenue increases. These are due to businesses
having greater capital to work with and fewer
limitations. These are due to Congress.
\_ All the economists agree that high growth
without inflation only happens with
productivity growth.
\_ You both have condom lubricant for brains.
What will Bush Sr. be remembered for?
\_ For chipping away at the rule of law. Not much else.
\_ He kept the Internet tax-free and uncensored. He ordered the
removal of built-in error in GPS systems. He helped initiate the
break-up of Microsoft and the beginning of the fall of tobbacco
companies. -tom
\_ The internet is tax-free because of the senate. Specifically
bills co-sponsored by Sen. McCain (R-Az). Uncensored, well
that's good and bad, not really that important. Breaking up
M$ is good, but the actual legal action was taken by a
Reagan appointee. The anti-tobacco bs was completely wrong.
Its like the prohibition, and we all know how effective that
was.
Clinton will be remembered for the failure in Haiti, the
failure of the camp david accords, the death of 17 sailors
on the USS Cole, the death of dozens of US citizens in
\_ err?? Are you that wasn't terrorist's work? If you
want to blame a defense embarassment, don't forget Somalia
Sure Bush sent them, but it was Clinton appointee Aspin
who denied them armor.
\_ Okay, the Somalia debacle is one more thing that
Clinton will be remembered for.
embassy bombings, the sell out of our national security to
the chinese, the weakening of our national defense, a total
and utter disregard for the constitution and the law, and
perhaps most appropriately, he will be remembered for getting
a "Lewinsky".
The sad part is that compared to Bush and Gore, Clinton looks
pretty good. I guess he understood (to some degree) the role
of the president, which is not to wield power, but rather to
draw attention from it through acts of finely judge outrage
(to paraphrase Douglas Adams). |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:19716 Activity:nil |
11/10 NEWSFLASH: The official FL vote count is Bush+960 (or so) with 2
yet to report. This isn't AP or VNS. It's the numbers from the
real thing. And of course an unknown number of overseas yet to
arrive over the next few days.
\_ Give EXACT source for these things
\_ Sorry. It was on cnn and other cable channels. Every one
of the national news cable stations had it. cnn, msnbc,
cbs, etc. Take your pick. They're all getting this from
the same source so it hardly matters which you listen to. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:19717 Activity:nil |
11/10 Al Gore inventing internet quote:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,18390,00.html
I hope Wired News is a good enough source for you.
Did getting a real URL from a reasonably reliable web news source
bother you so much you had to censor and purge it? Restored.
\_ wired is a terrible news source. If you read about something
in wired that you are personally involved in, you will realize
just how lousy they are. for the whole story on the Gore
quote and how various people blew it out of proportion, look up
the article in Brill's Content. I dont have a URL or date,
but i'm sure you can find it in the library(and there might
be a URL.)
\_ Hey, I provided a source to the miffed person who wanted a URL
"even from a geocities site". Tough shit. "I don't have a URL
or date but I know I'm right and you're wrong and your source
sucks". Give it up.
\_ OK, i found it. It is the March 2000 issiue, written
by MIke Pride, in the OUT HERE column. The BRILLSCONTENT
site doesnt have the article, but im sure ucb library does.
i think al gore is a total jackass, but he deserves
honest press coverage just like anyone else. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Uncategorized] UID:19718 Activity:nil |
11/10 Not really news, but; Gore Lies Again.
After claiming "We'll abide by the result of the official count,
whatever it is", now that he's lost.. AGAIN.... he's threatening
to sue.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/Election_Main.html |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:19719 Activity:nil |
11/10 DO OVER! Let all military personel get another chance to vote! http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20001110_xnjdo_congressma.shtml Or... we could all just accept that elections have always been kinda fucked, shit happens, try better next time, let it stand and move on. --Nader'04! |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Reference/Tax] UID:19720 Activity:insanely high |
11/10 What did Bush Sr. do during his presidency?
\_ Not much. He tried to continue the work of RWR to varying
degrees of success. He was a good man, but not a great
president. To his credit, he was a good honorable man
who tried to do what he believed was right for America
regardless of the personal cost. I think that this can
be said of perhaps most Presidents in the 20th century
with the notable exception of Clinton.
\_ Wow! Suddenly becoming so kind, warm and fuzzy when
it comes to Bush Sr.
In that case, I would say that Clinton is a good man
with kind heart, and a good president, but has
personal weaknesses.
\_ No. If Clinton just got a "lewinsky" I would go
for this. But the problems with national security,
the disregard for the rule of law, etc prevents
me from saying this.
If you read my comments, I think that most Presidents,
regardless of thier party affiliation and my opinion
of thier policies, had a single goal: The betterment
of American and her citizens. Clinton did not. He
only cared about Clinton.
\_ He made the political error of raising taxes at a time it was
the right thing to do for the country and paid the price.
\_ It wasn't that he raised taxes, but that he did it after
"Read my lips..."
\_ There is never a right time to raise taxes. But it is
always the right time to lower taxes.
\_ he defeated the biggest threat to Western Civilization and the
Free World since the USSR -- Iraq.
\_ Nah the biggest threat was Milosevic and the Serbian
nationalist butchers, who are soundly defeated by
the US under the leadership of President Clinton.
\_ In what way was Milosevic a threat to the free world and
western civilization?
\_ At the end of the millenium, the actions of Milosevic
\_ That was Reagan. It just happened while Bush was president.
\_ We are talking about Iraq, not USSR.
and the Serbian nationalist butchers right at the
backyard of Europe throw into doubt that our great
Western Civilization has made any progress since the
defeat of the nazis and facists 50 years ago.
\_ Reagan is like Bill Walsh. Bush Sr is like George Seifert.
No, I'm not going to compare Clinton to Mariucci.
{deleted a few older threads to save space, not to censor them} |
| 2000/11/10 [Computer/Networking] UID:19721 Activity:nil |
11/9 There you have it. Gore "invented the Internet". More accurately,
he created this bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d102:16:./temp/~bdPGaI::|/bss/d102query.html|
\_ He was only about 25 years late. BBNPlanet, DARPA and the DOD
created the internet in the 60's. All this bill did was to
help in the transfer of ARPANET to NFSNET.
\_ But his bills helped make the Internet what it is today
- far more than the military/research ARPANET.
\_ Uh, no. TCP/IP, ICMP, IGMP, UDP, and most other major
protocols such as RIP, OSPF, FTP were authored under
DOD and DARPA contracts. Even Bill Joy's work here at
Cal in the late 70s and early 80s were DARPA funded.
The transition to NSFNET, didn't introduce any new
sturcture or commerical benefit. In fact the Internet
and the web did not take off until it was transfered
out of the control of NSF into commercial ISPs. Gore
did not help with the privatization of the Internet
which is the primary reason for its growth.
Bottom line, Gore is *exaggerating* if not lying.
I guess he must have master the Vulcan logical arts
to a higher degree than Spock. |
| 2000/11/10 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:19722 Activity:nil 57%like:19710 |
11/9 Typical reactionary spittle-emitting moron. Here's the URL:
http://www.newaus.com.au/us162cw.html
Damn fine example of conservative idiocy.
\_ Here are some of the highlights:
Americans are facing a deadliest [sic] political force. The type that
spontaneously emerges overtime [sic]...
Gay Alcorn is another example of that destructive breed of lefitwing
[sic] journalists who are driven by ideology. [as opposed to this
guy]
Monopoly is one of those economic concepts that's slippier [sic] than a
greased pig on steroids...
Obviously, a well-reasoned and balanced article, written by an
articulate journalist. -tom
\_ Poor tom. You're exactly the sort of person he's talking about and
can't see it. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:19723 Activity:very high |
11/10 If Green Party has its own way, would we be forced to drive
expensive electric cars, pay an exorbitant amount of rent because
of land conservation, and pay $500 yearly to support the Sierra Club?
\_ $500 yearly for the sierra club? HAH! the IRS would be paying
the sierra club for you, from the 10% sierra club income tax.
\_ http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html
\_ Don't be stupid. Stop slandering the left and go read their
platform.
\_ Yeah. There platform discredits them more than anyone else
ever could.
\_ It's "Their" dumbass. I can see why you like Bush. |
| 2000/11/10-11 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:19724 Activity:very high |
11/10 When Bush promises tax cut, how much tax cut is it? I'm a hi-tech
worker with a 6 digit. How will I benefit from Bush's administration?
\_ I could be wrong, but one figure I read was from 39% -> 33% for
top bracket and 15% -> 10% for lowest.
\_ if you make 100K you only get back $6000 a year. That's not even
enough to buy 1/2 a car. No thanks to the tax break. I rather
pay that much to improve our traffic and other social needs.
\_ Only? Are you nuts? Write me a check for $6k since it's
*only* $6k and I can sure as hell use it. I'm making 6 figs
also and will not turn down your money.
\_ Get Back? Its my money. They have no right to it. And I
can do some much more with it than some politician spending
it on crack whores.
\_ Yeah, you're right. They have no right to spend my money
to fund the military to defend me. They have no right to
spend my money to build and maintain our interstate
highway system. They have no right to use my money to
keep our airports running.
\_ [Tom's bullshit deleted]
\_ Gore wants to waste *MY MONEY*. Its *MINE*, I went
to work in order to *EARN* it. He has no right to
waste it. Now if he wanted to build a missle defense
to protect America, I'd be for it. But not for his
crack environmental BS.
\_ Bush wants to waste *MY MONEY*. Its *MINE*, I went
to work in order to *EARN* it. He has no right to
waste it. Now if he wanted to pay off our debts
to protect our economy, I'd be for it. But not for
his bullshit missle defense crap.
\_ I prefer a lower tax rate, but I would not spend
a cent to build a missile defense system to
defend a polluted slump.
\_ So when the Chinese and the N. Koreans and the
Arabs launch missles on American cities, you
will be happy to die?
\_ Arabs and N. Koreans? Are you serious?
China would be bombed to stone age if they
dare to launch missiles at American cities.
\_ loser, the government is much more inefficent than the market
place, its better use of money to keep it and use it in the market
than giving more money to an inefficient government who refuses
to make good use of the resources it already has.
\_ Doesn't matter because, like his Dad, he's not gonna do it.
\_ wouldn't be prudent at this juncture
\_ WRONG. He is gonna do it just to prove that Republicans
and the Bush family are honorable men. -voted Republican |
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