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2/26 Goodbye, Bill Buckley, you magnificent bastard.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080227/ap_on_re_us/obit_buckley
\_ Some of Buckley's vaginal orgasms:
Buckley vs. Gore Vidal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8
Buckley vs. Chomsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-GUAxmxdk
\- good riddance.
\_ some low life here always wishes ill upon the dead. he's
gone. get over him. move on.
\- i am not sure what your point is, but let me elaborate
on mine:
Wm Buckley "mastered" the art of defending a self-serving
set of ideas in a forum he controlled. He looks smart
and shiney next to talk show hacks, and perhaps is
somebody you look up to when you mature from a
High School Randroid into a freshly card carrying
college republican. But a deep and original thinker
like say Robert Nozick? Hardly. Although Cheney makes
him look good. [and yes i know Conservatism != Randoidism]
\_ He's dead. Attacking dead people doesn't hurt them.
I'm concerned for your emotional and mental well being,
not WFB's reputation or feelings. It's unhealthy.
\_ You're joking, right? It's WFB. Some of his best friends
are still going to spit on his grave.
\_ Like who? URL?
\_ wow. i really want a "...Mr. Anderson" on that 2nd video
\_ http://www.csua.org/u/kxl (NY Times)
David Brooks on Buckley. |
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| news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080227/ap_on_re_us/obit_buckley AP Conservative author Buckley dies at 82 By HILLEL ITALIE, AP National Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago NEW YORK - William F Buckley Jr. The word "liberal" had been shunned like an ill-mannered guest. sip=98&cpy=1204157771 757253 At the end of his 82 years, much of it spent stoking and riding a right-wing wave as an erudite commentator and conservative herald, all of Buckley's dreams seemingly had come true. "He founded a magazine, wrote over 50 books, influenced the course of political history, had a son, had two grandchildren and sailed across the Atlantic Ocean three times," said his son, novelist Christopher Buckley. Buckley was found dead in his study Wednesday morning in Stamford, Conn. His son noted Buckley had died "with his boots on, after a lifetime of riding pretty tall in the saddle." The cause of death was unknown, but he had been ill with emphysema, she said. As an editor, columnist, novelist, debater and host of the TV talk show "Firing Line," Buckley worked at a daunting pace, taking as little as 20 minutes to write a column for his magazine, National Review. Yet on the platform, he was all handsome, reptilian languor, flexing his imposing vocabulary ever so slowly, accenting each point with an arched brow or rolling tongue and savoring an opponent's discomfort with wide-eyed glee. "There's no weltschmerz,' or any sadness that permeates my vision," he told The Associated Press during a 2004 interview at his Park Avenue duplex. "There isn't anything I reasonably hoped for that wasn't achieved." President Bush called Buckley a great political thinker, wit, author and leader. "He influenced a lot of people, including me," the president said. But Buckley was also willing to criticize his own and made no secret of his distaste for at least some of Bush's policies. In a 2006 interview with CBS, he called the Iraq war a failure. "If you had a European prime minister who experienced what we've experienced, it would be expected that he would retire or resign," Buckley said at the time. Luck was in the very bones of Buckley, blessed with a leading man's looks, an orator's voice, a satirist's wit and an Ivy League scholar's vocabulary. But before he emerged in the 1950s, few imagined conservatives would rise so high, or so enjoy the heights. For at least a generation, conservatism had meant the pale austerity of Herbert Hoover, the grim isolationism of Sen. Democrats were the party of big spenders and "Happy Days Are Here Again." Unlike so many of his peers and predecessors on the right, Buckley wasn't a self-made man prescribing thrift, but a multimillionaire's son who enjoyed wine, sailing and banter and assumed his wishes would be granted. Buckley once teased Schlesinger after the historian praised the rise of computers for helping him work more quickly. "Suddenly I was face to face with the flip side of Paradise," Buckley wrote. "That means, doesn't it, that Professor Schlesinger will write more than he would do otherwise?" Buckley founded the biweekly magazine National Review in 1955, declaring that he proposed to stand "athwart history, yelling stop' at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who urge it." Conservatives had been outsiders in both mind and spirit, marginalized by a generation of discredited stands -- from opposing Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal to the isolationism that preceded the US entry into World War II. Before Buckley, liberals so dominated intellectual thought that critic Lionel Trilling claimed there were "no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation." "Bill could go to the campus with that arch manner of his. And he was exciting and young and conservative," conservative author and columnist George Will told the AP in 2004. In the 1950s, "conservatism was barely a presence at all," Will said. "To the extent that it was a political presence, it was a blocking faction in Congress." The National Review was initially behind history, opposing civil rights legislation and once declaring that "the white community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail." Buckley also had little use for the music of the counterculture, once calling the Beatles "so unbelievably horrible, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmatically insensitive to the magic of the art, that they qualify as crowned heads of antimusic." The magazine could do little to prevent Barry Goldwater's landslide defeat in 1964, but as conservatives gained influence, so did Buckley and his magazine. The long rise would peak in 1980, when Buckley's good friend Ronald Reagan was elected president. "Ronnie valued Bill's counsel throughout his political life, and after Ronnie died, Bill and Pat were there for me in so many ways," Reagan's widow, Nancy Reagan, said Wednesday in a statement. Buckley's wife, the former Patricia Alden Austin Taylor, died in 2007 at age 80. Buckley is also survived by two brothers and three sisters. Christopher Buckley remembers his father's one losing adventure, albeit one happily lost. William F Buckley was the Conservative Party's candidate for mayor of New York in 1965, waging a campaign that was in part a lark -- he proposed an elevated bikeway on Second Avenue -- but that also reflected a deep distaste for the liberal Republicanism of Mayor John V Lindsay. "By this time I realized he wasn't just any other dad," Christopher Buckley told the AP. "I was 13 at the time, and there were mock debates in my fifth grade home room class. And there were people playing him, so that was kind of strange. "And that's when you get the sense that your dad is not just Ozzie and your parents are not Ozzie and Harriet. But he was a great dad, and he was a great man, and that's not a bad epitaph." is seen in Washington, in this October 6, 2005 file photo. Conservative writer and commentator William F Buckley has died at age 82, the New York Times reported on its Web site on Wednesday. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. |
| www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8 We can only process copyright complaints submitted by authorized parties in accordance with processes defined in law. There may be significant legal penalties for false notices. Don't disrespect a man's service just because he wasn't in combat--he could have been, had the war come here, and he served honorably. But most of all, let's get back to the relevance of this issue. It's that the low-life Vidal made the most vile slur against a man who served his country while it FOUGHT the Nazis. Reply Gondring, I was a war protester during those days, and I can promise you that there were no Soviets or even communists that were using us. Reply wprange, you evidently have your fingers in your own ears and didn't hear Gore Vidal tell Buckley to "shut up" when the latter tried to get a word in edgewise. Reply Hey shit for brains, Vidal couldn't hold Buckley's Jock. As far as shouting your opponents down goes, lefties have that market cornered. Just look at how they treat conservative speakers on campuses today. Reply BillO, Rush and Sean have learned it from Bully Buckley: when you don't like to hear the truth, put your fingers in your ears and shout your opponent down, as loud as you can. Why don't you look up what Buckley did when his sister fell in love/wanted to marry a Jew. You (nor Buckley) know nothing of Christ, nor the compassion he preached. Reply It's nice to know that liberals, progressives, socialists and musical pervs are still as full of hate as ever. May The Holy Spirit convict you, and call you to accept Christ as your Savior. you will be able to meet the Intellectual Giant that was William F Buckley. more) Added: August 15, 2007 This is the well know incident between William Buckley and Gore Vidal that occurred during ABC's coverage of the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. This version has slightly better sound quality and syncronization. |
| www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-GUAxmxdk We can only process copyright complaints submitted by authorized parties in accordance with processes defined in law. There may be significant legal penalties for false notices. Reply if nixon would have been a sovereign dictator, if congres would have declared a national emergency, wich is within their constitutional authority, thereby giving the president exclusive sovereignty, instead of impeaching him, the bretton woods system might have guarantueed world peace de facto. Reply mainstream image: usa as moral leader and protecter of free trade and democracy, loving this image isn't patriotism, refining the image is patriotism, but you are not a patriot in the least. when vietnam is in the american influence sphere, it will trade with usa instead ussr or china, unless china or ussr there is detente, wich there wasn't at that time. if you think america was capitalistic in the 20th century, you are out of your mind, mercantilism is much more worse than communism. Reply do not use your right to vote because you are purposely ignorant. china was afraid usa would continue the export of vietnamese heroine into china, nixon made sure this didn't happen. the global warming theory wich is pseudo-scientific wihtout the epistemological fundament of the science of sun activity and its effects on global warming under the present conditions of the ozon lair, why won't your nation sign the montreal protocol? Reply the global warming theory is just a propagandic cause in order to justify the rain forrest being cut so that ethanol can be produced and fabricated into fuel, alternative from fossile fuel. Reply trumans and kennedies bureaucracies that were created in 1947 but their purpose and functioning is against trias politicas, against the fourth amendment, they are a jurisdiction inside the jurisdiction. kennedy send armed advisors into vietnam, rhese guys were supossed to continue the heroinetrafficking from vietnam into china. nixon used the army, personal bureaucracies and infiltrated into the bureaucracies of the national security act. Reply the bretton woods system, it was a refinement in the comprehencation of american imperialism. another satelite state would be another nation to export inflation to since the price of the dollar was fixed(stop trying to use my linguistic handicap as a way to deviate from the subject, fixated is beholding the same semantic as fix)the quantity would not have effect on its value. |
| www.csua.org/u/kxl -> www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/opinion/29brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin DAVID BROOKS Published: February 29, 2008 When I was in college, William F Buckley Jr. wrote a book called "Overdrive" in which he described his glamorous lifestyle. Since I was young and a smart-aleck, I wrote a parody of it for the school paper. Go to Columnist Page "Buckley spent most of his infancy working on his memoirs," I wrote in my faux-biography. "By the time he had learned to talk, he had finished three volumes: The World Before Buckley,' which traced the history of the world prior to his conception; The Seeds of Utopia,' which outlined his effect on world events during the nine months of his gestation; and The Glorious Dawn,' which described the profound ramifications of his birth on the social order." I noted that his ability to turn water into wine added to his popularity at prep school. I described his college memoirs: "God and Me at Yale," "God and Me at Home" and "God and Me at the Movies." I recounted that after college he had founded two magazines, one called The National Buckley and the other called The Buckley Review, which merged to form The Buckley Buckley. I wrote that his hobbies included extended bouts of name-dropping and going into rooms to make everyone else feel inferior. Buckley came to the University of Chicago, delivered a lecture and said: "David Brooks, if you're in the audience, I'd like to offer you a job." A few years later, I went to National Review and joined the hundreds of others who have been Buckley protgs. I don't know if I can communicate the grandeur of his life or how overwhelming it was to be admitted into it. Buckley was not only a giant celebrity, he lived in a manner of the haut monde. To enter Buckley's world was to enter the world of yachts, limousines, finger bowls at dinner, celebrities like David Niven and tales of skiing at Gstaad. The historian George Nash once postulated that he wrote more personal letters than any other American, and that is entirely believable. He showered affection on his friends, and he had an endless stream of them, old and young. He took me sailing, invited me to concerts and included me at dinners with the great and the good. He asked my opinion about things, as he did with all his young associates, and he worked hard on polishing my writing. My short editorials would come back covered with his red ink, and if I'd written one especially badly there might be an exasperated comment, "Come on, David!" As a young man, he had corralled the famously disputatious band of elders who made up the editorial board of National Review. He changed the personality of modern conservatism, created a national movement and expelled the crackpots from it. He was capable of intellectual pyrotechnics none of us could match. National Review's readers no doubt shared a hatred for Communism, but many of them simply wanted to be like Buckley. He had a Tory gratitude for the pleasures of life: for music, conversation, technology and adventure. And through all the fun, I don't recall him talking about politics much. He talked about literature, history, theology, philosophy and the charms of the peculiar people he had known. I don't recall politicians at his home, but I do recall literary critics like Anatole Broyard and social thinkers like James Burnham, even after his stroke. Buckley contained all the intellectual tensions of conservatism, the pessimism of Albert Jay Nock and Whittaker Chambers, as well as the optimism of Ronald Reagan. He loved liberty and felt it must be constrained by the invisible bonds of the transcendent order. One night we were at his home, and his wife, Pat, at the height of her glamour, swept in from an evening on the town and took one look at the little group of us debating some point. You could feel her inner thought: "Why does he spend his time with those people?" But Buckley loved ideas, swept us along as his companions, and sent us out into the world. And years later, I asked if he'd ever reached a moment of contentment. He'd changed history and accomplished all that any man could be expected to accomplish. More Articles in Opinion Tips To find reference information about the words used in this article, double-click on any word, phrase or name. A new window will open with a dictionary definition or encyclopedia entry. |