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2008/11/7-13 [Recreation/Dating] UID:51867 Activity:kinda low
11/6    IMPEACH THE SOCIALIST!
        http://www.obamaimpeachment.org
        \_ Welcome back, freepers.
        \_ Karl Rove playbook chapter 3-- dig up personal dirt about the
           opponent. Best stuff to collect in the order of effectiveness:
           infidelity, oral sex, anti-gun, anti-religion, MoneyGate scandal.
           Save dirt till they're needed, they're like pocket change, you
           never know when you'll need them.
           \_ You think oral sex with your wife is really that much of
              a scandal in America anymore?
              \_ it is a huge scandal in the midwest.
                 \_ gay sex should be number 1, I think then
                    \_ ah, yes, but no presidential candidate has ever
                       had gay sex scandals. not yet.
                       \_ unless you count Lincoln.  -tom
                          \_ Oh great, now you're going to tell us that
                             Lincoln had hot gay sex with his slaves? Sheeit
                             \_ That's why they are called Log Cabin
                                Republicans
                 \_ Link please?  This sounds like a San Francisco urban
                    legend.  Frankly, I think you're full of crap.
        \_ Obama Derangement Syndrome is going to be fun to watch.
        \_ I am willing to bet a lot of money that Obama only has sex with his legal wife
        \_ I am willing to bet a lot of money that Obama only has sex with his
           legal wife
           for the next 8 years.
           legal wife for the next 8 years.
        \_ Best part of that site: "The main Stream Media"
2008/11/7-13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:51868 Activity:low
11/7    Now that prop 8 looks like it's passed, does that mean all married
        gay couples have to file taxes separately again, and revert any other
        agreements from married to domestic partner (if it existed)?
        \_ Presumably not until after the case is heard.
           \_ I think it should be in effect the day the results are certified,
              unless there's an injuction. -op
        \_ Even if the courts ok it, it isn't clear what will happen to
           people who were married before the gay marriage man.
           \_ well, doesn't prop 8 define marriage as between a man and a woman
           \_ doesn't prop 8 define marriage as between a man and a woman
        \_ did some more reading.  apparently the fact that it may
           (a) retroactively penalize individuals and (b) conflict with equal
           protection argues the "existing marriages still valid" case. -op
           \_ Uh, emancipation retroactively punished the slaveowners.
              \_ Uh, no. Since the human beings were no longer property, no
                 penalty was accrued. Now, if the slaveowners had had to make
                 reparations, that would have been punishment.
                 \_ uh, they'd paid money for slaves.  the slaves were then
                    released.  Where'd that investment go?
                    \_ By the terms of emancipation, they could not own the
                       slaves to begin with. There was no more investment
                       here than there would be in purchasing uncontained
                       oxygen. The risk that they assumed in purchasing
                       slaves (i.e., that slavery would be abolished)
                       was merely part of the cost, not a retroactive
                       punishment.
                 \_fascism   is the name of an
                   ancient   way  o f  keeping
                   a group   t o g e t h e r ;
                   unified   against
                   decadence-and-the-perils-of
                   a-lost-society-built-on-the
                   cult of ego worship; usury!
                             so that   w e can
                   pursue holism i n   seeking
                   the path to truth   hidden;
                   this is but o n e   veritas
                   \_ Wow!  What a subliminal message.
2008/11/7-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51869 Activity:nil
11/7    Journalism is dead, all hail the new Obama department of Truth!
        http://csua.org/u/mvr
        \_ Unlabeled links are dead. All hail labeling your links.
        \_ Mormon power! Prop 8 is alive! Religion CAN control .gov!
           \_ Muslims, Catholics, etc. voted similarly.  And?
        \_ Your link has been classified as: dumb.
2008/11/7-13 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:51870 Activity:nil
11/7    So much for hoping for change
        http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6201900&page=1
        \_ The report also said board members appointed by the President,
           such as Emanuel, serve terms that are far too short "for them to
           play a meaningful role on the Board."
           \_ Don't let your pesky facts get in jblack's way!
              \_ jblack, are you posting to the motd again? Welcome back,
                 did you ever find those WMD you kept harping on about?
2008/11/7-13 [Uncategorized] UID:51871 Activity:nil
11/7    Everything you need to know about religion, history, etc:
        http://principiadiscordia.com/index.php
2008/11/7-13 [Uncategorized] UID:51872 Activity:nil
11/7    http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/11/07/retail-sales-plunge-puts-a-new-twist-on-trickle-down-economics/print
        Retail sales plunge puts a new twist on trickle down Reaganomics
        \_ when wealth doesn't trickle, guess where it stays?  Yay!
2008/11/7 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:51873 Activity:nil 80%like:51874
11/6    Obama to bring back slavery:
        http://socialism.change.gov/americaserves
        \_ u mean communism
           \_ Yeah, I like Communism. Capitalism didn't work too well
              under GWB.
              \_ I thought GWB was a neocon and that neocon = socialism + war
              \_ how are you going to spend your 100 hours ? scraping gum?
        \_ say bye to the 13th amendment - Executive Order on the way
        \_ That's an unfortunate sysadmin error there.
        \_ They really need to change that Redirect to a Rewrite
2008/11/7-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:51874 Activity:nil 80%like:51873 80%like:51860
11/6    Obama to bring back slavery:
        http://assmastery.change.gov/americaserves
        \_ u mean communism
           \_ Yeah, I like Communism. Capitalism didn't work too well
              under GWB.
              \_ I thought GWB was a neocon and that neocon = socialism + war
              \_ how are you going to spend your 100 hours ? scraping gum?
        \_ say bye to the 13th amendment - Executive Order on the way
        \_ That's an unfortunate sysadmin error there.
        \_ They really need to change that Redirect to a Rewrite
           \_ Good point, I will contact the campaign and get them to fix it.
           \_ Fixed, thanks for the heads up.
2008/11/7-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Security] UID:51875 Activity:nil
11/7    Does this guy have a soda account?
        http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10926276?source=rss (online stalker)
        \_ boring
        \_ I wonder if Sold Intel Secrets To AMD guy has a soda account.
2008/11/7-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:51876 Activity:low
11/7    Need help on http proxy. After I VPN to work, I'd like to tunnel
        all the traffic to my machine. How do I setup my machine (Linux)
        as a proxy server so that my home computers can route through it?
        I'm asking because the site we're testing on requires that we
        come from the same IP. If I use VPN, the server will reject me
        based on the fact that it's a different IP than my work Linux.
        Thanks for any help!                            -unix noob
        \_ I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but an ssh tunnel on
           port 80 might be the easiest thing.  -tom
        \_ If I understand you correctly, you want to install tinyproxy
           on your linux box. And point your home machine to use it as
           your proxy.   -crebbs
           \_ Cool i'll google for tinyproxy and try it out tomorrow
              THANK YOU motd proxy god.
2008/11/7-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:51877 Activity:low
11/7    Obama's plans to require students to serve.
        http://change.gov/americaserves
        \_ Yes, so? Isn't that better than kids staying home and playing
           Nintendo all day? Or doing drugs and hanging out with gangsters?
           How is this different than mandatory physical education in
           in school, is that also bad for kids?
           \_ IT'S COMMUNISM!  STALIN LOVED COMMUNITY SERVICE!  THEY ARE
              GOING TO TAKE AWAY ALL MY GUNS AND MONEY!
              \_ http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081108/pl_nm/us_usa_guns_1
                 And you thought you were just being funny...
        \_ Did you see the post below about slavery?  Same thing.
           \_ Sorry the assmastery threw me off.
              \_ Added by an asshat after the post
        \_ Old truths have been relearned; untruths have been unlearned.
           We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals;
           we know now that it is bad economics. Out of the collapse of a
           prosperity whose builders boasted their practicality has come the
           conviction that in the long run economic morality pays. We are
           beginning to wipe out the line that divides the practical from the
           ideal; and in so doing we are fashioning an instrument of unimagined
           power for the establishment of a morally better world. -FDR, 1936
           \_ That was while FDR was prolonging the depression
              http://tinyurl.com/56dqd4   [ucla.edu]
              \_ FDR's policies probably would prolonged the depression
                 even longer if not for the FOUR HORSEMEN
              \_ Krugman thinks you are wrong:
                 http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/08/new-deal-economics
                 \_ Krugman isn't an Economist anymore, he's just another lefty
                    commentator.  Furthermore, the one link doesn't address the
                    UCLA study, and the other is 13 years old.
                    \_ Yeah, anyone who disagrees with you is a "lefty
                       commentator" we got that the first 1000 times you said
                       it.
                       it. Even the one's with Nobel Prizes aren't as worthy
                       as the anonymous contributors to LGF.
               \_ http://tinyurl.com/6naawz
                  Stop Lying About Roosevelt's Record
2008/11/7-13 [Uncategorized] UID:51878 Activity:nil
11/7    Berkshire Hathaway Profit Falls 77 Percent
        \_ The Millennium Falcon heads right at the two TIE fighters.  It's a
           collision course.
2008/11/7-13 [Uncategorized] UID:51879 Activity:nil
11/7    http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com
        Pretty good breakdown of campaign contribution vs. occupation, cities
        \_ CEO breaks 4:1 for Obama.
           \_ usually NOT a good sign. How about LAWYERS, gun shop owners,
              and used car salesmen?
              \_ Do the research yourself and post the results to the motd.
2008/11/7-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold, Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:51880 Activity:nil
11/7    Why I'm not buying GOOG (special interest & conflict of interest):
        http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Google-Makes-First-Political-Contributions/story.aspx?guid={D98D82C9-98B9-4A0C-96F6-414DA5AEC365}
        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44125
        http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/14/technology/google_democrats/index.htm
        \_ You know at this point I think GOOG in all honesty does not care
           even a tiny tiny tiny bit whether an individual investor wants
           to buy their stock.
2008/11/7-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51881 Activity:very high
11/7    Obama's draft goes down the memory hole
        http://tinyurl.com/63mbfa (LGF)
        \_ Oh please, let me quote the GOP from when that pompous cybersec guy
           came to ask cs studentds help in 02.  "GET OVER IT."
        \_ You guys are irrelevant. No one cares what you think anymore.
           Shut up and eat your Freedom Fries.
           \_ Don't you care at all about the president elect?  If he lies,
              does it matter?  If he breaks promises, does it matter?
              \_ Little Green Footballs - yep, nobody cares what they think.
                 \_ Sigh. The post shows screenshots of how the page has
                    changed.  It's fairly spread over the blogosphere now.
                    Pick a source you're not scared of for your facts and
                    you should be able to find it.
                    \_ What's really sad is that you apparently think web
                       site revisions are something sinister.
                       \_ Policy changes via website revision.  Oh, and $40/hr
                          for "volunteerism" now.
                          \_ Actually I remember him talking about tax credits
                             for college volenteer service back when he was on
                             the stump.
                    \_ Dittohead Grieving Status: Denial
                     \_ How will you be able to tell when it hits Anger?
                        \_ That would imply progress. Dittoheads are
                           agin' progress.
           \_ Now that Obama has won, there will never be another
              Republican in the government!  Dems will rule for 1000 years!
              \_ Someday the Republicans will be in power again, but it won't
                 be soon and it certainly won't be with Palin.
                 http://tinyurl.com/6blkpg
                 64% of Republicans want Palin as the 2012 nominee. I
                 sincerely hope that she is, so the Democratic Party can get
                 one of those 49 state landslides Reagan got.
                 \_ Really, it's quite amazing you let the press manipulate
                    your impression of her.
                    \_ Really, it's quite amazing how deluded you are.
                    \_ I wasn't being sarcastic. I really would like nothing
                       better than for the Republicans to nominate her for
                       President in 2012.
                    \_ Did she or didn't she sneeringly and contemptuously
                       refer to Obama's "San Francisco friends" in front of
                       100M people in her first serious public appearance?
                       That's me! She treats me with comtempt and I am supposed
                       That's me! She treats me with contempt and I am supposed
                       to turn the other cheek? I am not that kind of guy.
        \_ Dude, your eight years are up.  SHUT THE FUCK UP.  GO AWAY.
           YOU LOST.
           \_ Obama bought the election:
              http://www.sodahead.com/question/183578/did-barack-obama-buy-the-election/?link=GCPA_BuyVote_q183578_lb1
              \_ Dittohead desperation level: Warp 7
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