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Tuner Tuesdays Avalon Pursuit Were all used to keeping an eye out for unmarked Crown Vic, Impalas, and maybe the new Chrysler interceptors. Well, Toyota and Hotchkis tuning h ave teamed up to bring another profile to be on the look out for. This A valon Pursuit Concept includes several exterior design changes, includin g the deep front grill (oh la la), 15-piece aero kit, wide fender flares , rear window spoiler, deck lid wing, a low-profile Galaxy LED light bar , undercover LED flashers, and black chrome headlights and tinted tail l ights. Whether this bec omes a possibility for police fleets, wed lobby Toyota to offer a TRD A valon with this body kit and front grill.
Add your comments) Reader Comments 1 Posted Nov 5, 2005, 6:44 PM ET by Jason Chan my tax dollars better not pay for that. also i like to add that avalon co p cars shouldnt be too hard to spot since there arnt many avalons on the road anyways.
Robert Brodrecht I hope it isn't in pursuit of anyone with a fast car. It might be good fo r parking enforcement, but why not get a Prius for that? Can you imagine a cop underway having his American POS break down? Only t he laziest and fattest of them because they are horrible cars and handle terribly. but since you started, the white piggie s I've seen have all been corpulent swine of the most exaggerated kind e ver. You'll know EXACTLY what I mean, when I say those GD FAT PIGS ("Boy, where you goin' in such a hurr y"), uneducated, Back-woods Freaks, Inbred Glory-Hole HillBilly retards. I don't like the idea of cop cars not being domestics in the US. I think imported cars should have to pay tariffs like American car compan ies have to pay to export their cars into these other countries (Such as England and Japan). How can GM compete when Toyota can take advantage o f the yen being worth so much more than the US dollar and sell cars here for less or equal to what they sell for in Japan? GM has to jack up the ir exported vehicle prices in these countries, heck, a Corvette in Engla nd costs between $70,000 and $90,000, so how can GM compete? Damnit, most currencies, with the Euro and p ound being notable exceptions are undervalued to the dollar.
Foreign nations keep our countr y running because they invest their capital in our government, in our tr easury bills. So STFU when you think that our government succeeds withou t the help of others. Furthermore, tarriffs would be terrible for the American consumer. If the Japanese can put out a better product for the same price, then why scre w them over? The free market causes incentive for improvement--by encour aging tariffs, you would be allowing American companies to put out a sub par product knowing that they would still sell because they were cheaper than the competition. Government should intervene as little as possible to keep markets moving properly--the airlines failed because of government subsidies. If you kn ow the gov't is going to bail you out, you do not try nearly as hard to increase efficiency or move to better practices. My gf's father worked for Delphi and is now out o f a job because the UAW decided to destroy all hope by sticking to a "he roic goal". That's one of the reasons Toyota can make cars cheapers; So w hat the hell kind of idiot are you telling me that cars built in America by Americans should be tariffed? GM continues to bleed money daily because th ey refuse to take action on the fact that they are paying people $40 ins tead of valued $15 and wonder where their profit margins are going. Yes, I understand that if the workers have gotten used to their $35 or $40 a nd live accordingly but they should realize that in a few years, that $4 0 very well may be $0, with all pension benefits lost and the like. And that car looks way too sweet to be a squad car, and I'm sure with the right suspension bits and increased torsional rigidity, it'd rock the h ighways of America just fine. To answer your final question, on how GM can compete, the answer is simpl e Cut out all that is extraneous, cut the inflated wages, disband union s, and put out a decent product! GM should also try its hand at pu tting out a worthy competitor to the Fusion and Accord. The Malibu is a nice car but is very bland--if Chevy could design a midsized car that di dn't look right in place in a fleet lot, that would be the day.
Posted Nov 5, 2005, 9:26 PM ET by fuscob #3 - Crown Vics are extremely reliable, last forever, and can take a real beating, which is why police fleets use them. I can't see an Avalon in serious police duty unless it was really beefed-up.
Posted Nov 5, 2005, 9:26 PM ET by Adam H #8 - Your idea of economics is totally flawed. Do some reading on the und ervaluation of the Chinese Yuan and see what economists think it's doing to American jobs.
Posted Nov 5, 2005, 10:17 PM ET by Za Adam, the fact is that, although, yes, we are losing "jobs" to the Chines e, they tend to be manufacturing jobs that Americans would not do, anywa y As long as the Chinese currency is undervalued, we will reap the bene fits of having a source of cheap goods while the Chinese suffer a lower quality of life than they should be earning. The undervalued yuan is gre at for America as long as it stays stable at that level. We are currently running a services surplus and foreign governments conti nue to save in our government and economy. If the Yuan was allowed to re flect its true value, we would be paying twice as much for the same good .
Japanese cop cars are an outrage and a direct effect of allowing illegal immigrants to cross into our borders. It is these socialist sta tes like California which grant health care benefits to illegals, and no w allow workmans' comp to these illegal immigrants. Not only that, but if you WANT TO LIVE IN AMERICA, SPEAK ENGLISH! Anyone who supports this idea is a cold-blooded communist.
Posted Nov 5, 2005, 11:05 PM ET by mark actually this is NOT a body on frame car like the Ford Crown Vic is.. tha t's why police like it, they can push larger vehicles out of the way (pu sh bars on the front).. this is why cops are not buying lots of malibu's from GM. Maybe to a few, but most police will probably be pu tting this avalon through its paces on a test track.. And I'd rather support American jobs than support some american company ( GM for example) that takes pride in shipping american jobs somewhere els e because all they care about is their greedy executives..
Posted Nov 5, 2005, 11:08 PM ET by md KenN, Clearly you have no idea of what you are talking about. The Crown Vic is a very dependable car, and it can take a lot of physical abuse, somethin g that cannot be said of toyota's cars. The Avalon is FWD anyways, polic e officers prefer RWD cars. The Charger will probably be the standard is sue police interceptor before long.
Posted Nov 5, 2005, 11:25 PM ET by md Yes, the crown Vics might have combusted when rearended at highway speeds . Ford eventually identified the fault and corrected it, so that problem is now a non-issue. in the site you listed the crown vic was rear ended at greater than 90mph by a full size car, the patrol car then spun and was hit head on again. How many other cars could you even survive the in tial collision in? In any case, the Crown Vic is on its way out and the Charger is on its wa y in. If toyota wanted to sell a police cruiser, they would have to tap into Lexus's large RWD platforms and probably use their V8 out of their trucks. Why else do you think that a car whose underpinnings date to the seventies is still in use today? t here were no other acceptable RWD sedans offered as interceptors.
everything turns into a domestic vs import competition here... as far as police vehicles go the avalon would be a poor choice for a inte rceptor vehicle, it simply does not have the strengh to push other vehic les around if nessercary. i also have to tell kenN that like everyone said crown vics are VERY reli able cars, the technology has been around so long that they have literal ly worked out every single bug. as far as the rear end collision fires, one they found the problem (it was a accessory kit that when hit would p oke some metel rod into the tank), two ...
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