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2008/11/13-26 [Transportation/Car] UID:51959 Activity:kinda low
11/13   I think the American automobile companies and all of the companies
        that depend on them and all of the employees and retirees who depend
        on these companies are going to go bankrupt.  We are truly screwed.
        "lulz".  Any suggestions of where I should move?
        \_ liquidation or restructuring bankruptcy?
           \_ probably restructuring bankruptcy.  but this is at best a lame
              stopgap measure.  people aren't buying GM cars NOW.  people
        \_ Here is something I don't understand.  GM / Ford's biggest problem
           is that they simply are not making cars that people want.  I just
           fail to see how borrow money from Government is going to change
           any of that.
              will not wake up one day and desire to buy GM products MORE
              during or after the bankruptcy unless something amazing happens.
              they're screwed.  I'm going to go climb in my 32 mph Honda
              Accord now.
              \_ You mean mpg?
              \_ You mean 32 mpg?
        \_ Can i have your stuff when you leave?
                 \_ You haven't seen my honda, lulz.
        \_ Here is something I don't understand.  GM / Ford's biggest problem
           is that they simply are not making cars that people want.  I just
           fail to see how borrow money from Government is going to change
           fail to see how borrowing money from Government is going to change
           any of that.
2018/10/18 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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