2/25    Anyone have a .ps (or any other format) for the City of Berkeley
        parking permits?  I was hoping someone else had already done the
        2 week temp. permit.  thanks (yes I know its illegal)
         \_ Real men don't pay for parking you dick.  Paying for
            parking is like paying for sex.  It just doesn't feel
            right.
        \_ Not to mention rather hard for the new ones with the City logo
         embossed in a circle of gold foil.
         \_ Actually the the gold circle just looked like a glued
            on kinda golden thingy.  No big deal to make my own.
        \_ Because of a special agreement, you can place Berkeley Farms
           milk cartons on your dashboard instead of the permits.
        \_ Is all the time you're going to waste really worth the $2 you save?
         \_ I don't live in Berkeley.  I thought that even a 14 day
            permit required CDL and car registration in Berkeley?
                        \_ only some proof you live in berkeley - CDL, phone
                           bill, cable tv bill, whatever - and unless you're
                           a complete dweeb you should be able to find someone
                           who lives in the area of Berkeley you want.  Of
                           course they have no reason to help a shmuck like
                           you steal parking from their neighbors just because
                           you're a lazy selfish cheap asshole
           \_ Yeah, I suppose all the taxes, shitty roads,
              tickets, and other BS isn't punishment enough for
              working in Berkeley.  I should pay $10/day at
              some overpriced garage or get fucked in a variety
              of other ways.  A real city wouldn't have the
              idiotic parking scam Berkeley has.  Thanks for
              info.  I know plenty of people who would help
              out.  Oh yeah, where does "lazy" "selfish"
              "cheap" or "asshole" come in this?  Only a loser
              or a schmuck (learn to spell Yiddish words before
              trying to use them) would submit to the Berkeley
              parking insanity.
              \_ Cars suck, and people who steal money from
          cities and then complain about the roads suck
          more.
           \_ "lazy" == take BART/buses or RIDE BIKE!
           \_ so get a f*cking job with an employer
              who'll get you parking (companies *CAN*
              get parking stickers for employees).
              Besides - YOU DON'T PAY ANY TAXES that
              go to the City of Berkeley moron.  (And
              parking is hell everywhere, not just here)
              \_ Pardon me, but where the f*ck do you
          think sales tax goes?  You might be
          surprised to learn that the city
          gets quite a bit of it.
          \_ Yeah the ten years I lived here did a lot to
          improve the roads, not.  Ride a bike?  Yeah right,
          over the bridge, under the freeway, blah blah blah.
          And no parking is not Hell everywhere.  Only in
          Berkeley and SF for the most part.  And yes I have
          and still do pay various taxes to the city of
          Berkeley.  But maybe you're right.  I should join
          the hordes of idiots in Crit. Mass and ride my
          bike 2 hours each way everyday.... or golly I
          could get a job next to where I live for half the
          pay, but it would be good for the environment. Yeah
          right.  When Hell freezes over, plus a day.  As I
          said before thanks for the 14 permit tip.  All
          pro-CM flames to /dev/null.  I couldn't care less.
          \_ Over the bridge?  You're coming from San Francisco
             to Berkeley and you're *driving*?  they should
             charge you extra
           \_ Actually no.  I just had a particular song in
              mind when I wrote that.  I'm on this side of the
              bridge.  "Over the hill and through the woods".