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 2005/5/31-6/2 [Uncategorized] UID:37893 Activity:nil 5/31 For Pynchon fans, this month's Bookforum has an article describing the publication of GR from the perspective of the publisher, Viking, as well as appreciations by assorted contemporary authors. http://www.bookforum.com/pynchon.html - ciyer
 2005/5/31-6/1 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:37894 Activity:moderate 5/30 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.amnestyintl/index.html Who has more credibility, Amnesty International or Cheney? Also do you believe in Cheney's prediction that fighting would be over before the next administration? \_ Yeah A.I. is totally right. Comparing abuses of prisoners in Cuba to the Soviet Gulags where 16 million died. \_ False argumentation. Cheney: "our abuses aren't so bad, and we've done a bunch of good things, and human rights violators are entirely bad, so because we're not quite that bad, we're not human rights violators." Righteous indignation, indeed. As for gulags, it's a poorly chosen figure of speech. Just like "concentration camps"--invented by the British, remember? -John \_ but we just have queer makeover camps \_ AI has it right -- the bar is much higher for the U.S. (a little abuse goes a long way), so the comparison is fair. Cheney may be viewed as being more arrogant than combative, Cheney may be viewed as being more arrogant more than combative, and is also practicing defining reality. \_ I wish you could grow up in a 3rd world country to see what a little goes a long way really means. \_ This is awesome. That the US is not as bad as a 3rd country is hardly a defence. Are there any other 1st world \_ This is awesome. That the US is not as bad as a 3rd world country is hardly a defence. Are there any other 1st world countries that hold people indefinitely without a trial and torture them for information? \_ There is a hell of a lot of torture that goes on in American prisions, too, mostly in the form of prisoner on prisoner rape. This oftens leads to HIV, too. The authorities could stop this, but choose not to. authorities could stop this, but choose not too. \_ "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality." \_ "our abuses aren't so bad" -- what kind of talk is that from the "leader of the free world". Sounds kinda like this guy: General "Buck" Turgidson: Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.
 2005/5/31-6/1 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37895 Activity:nil 5/30 http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spring03/Zentz/history%20page.htm http://saugus.byu.edu/writing/contest/fall2002/ethical_journalism.html "Media coverage of Vietnam was a rare exception in the history of combat coverage by the American media. Never before had the press been granted such access to the war zone. And never again would they. That war served as a lesson to the government and a pinnacle of freedom for the media" \_ I think that's because the US wasn't technically at war, unlike, say, during WWII. \_ that is technality. I personally find it alarming to allow President to initiate an arm conflict in a massive scale without declaration of war.
 2005/5/31-8/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:37896 Activity:low 5/31 /csua/tmp is full! Clean yer shit! \_ Either clean up yer shit, or I will clean it up for you and impose nasty and unfair quotas upon you all! Muahahahah. - jvarga \_ how about just deleting everything that's not world-readable? -tom \_ Please delete /csua/tmp/dailyshow, or I will report it to campus authorities as a copyright violation enabled by the CSUA. \- just run "find /csua/tmp -mtime +60 -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf" \_ i wish kai's motd would tell me who mr anonymous is. - danh \_ let's petition to politburo to change it to track every single poster. I'm sick and tired of libertarian motd, it's a chaos. Let's change it to totalitarian motd. \_ ooh yeah, the first thing I think of when I look at online forums which people are required to post non-anonymously is "totalitarian." Like those slashdot nazis. Of course, to be truly "free" we should just make all the users on soda have the same UID, and the market will enforce security for your files. -tom \- just run "find /csua/tmp -mtime +60 -print0 | xargs -0 rm" that's what "tmp" means. \_ Interesting. This got deleted and doesn't show up in kais motd. Hey kchang! What else are you censoring? \_ Do you mean intellidiff or kais motd? Kais motd seems to be updated so infrequently that it's almost useless on fine grain stuff. \_ Not very bright are you? The FAQ specifically says Kais Motd fetches randomly, every 1-2 hours. In addition, there is no connection between Kais Motd and 24HourDiff. 24HourDiff \_ So you throw the information away? Your FAQ says nothing about them being separate. Rather stupid implementation IMO. \_ What's your IP? Let me implement a special feature for you but I need your IP. Email me -kchang \_ This sounds like the features I keep getting in the mail from Microsoft. fetches at a much finer grain detail, and just because it gets updated doesn't mean it'll show up on Kais Motd. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Go read the FAQ, it has implementation details. Dweeb. -kchang \_ Agreed. \_ because its stupid. because it makes people do cron jobs like 'find /csua/tmp -user whoami | xargs -0 touch' Lesson learned, I store stuff off of soda... \_ Thank you. \_ What if I have a file named "Hello /". Notice the space and the forward slash. Would that get parsed as "\rm -rf Hello /" ? \_ Dunno, but I just tried to test this and it seems that "/" is not allowed in a filename. I couldn't do it no matter how I escaped it. \_ '/' is one of the few characters file and directory names are absolutely forbidden to contain in UNIX filesystems. You wont be abel to create a filename containing it short of going outside the filesystem and directly changing characters on the disk. \_ '/' is one of the few characters file and directory names are absolutely forbidden to contain in UNIX filesystems. You wont be abel to create a filename \_ Can I be cain? containing it short of going outside the filesystem and directly changing characters on the disk. \_ There are some issues with auto-deletion, but this is not one of them. It can be done safely but it takes some caution. (I don't really agree it's the right approach for /csua/tmp). -tom \_ man find and look at the -delete option. It's a safe way to avoid the issue you're raising. -dans \_ how about du -sk /csua/tmp/* | sort -n and then wipe out the top 20 offenders? \_ using space in /csua/tmp doesn't make you an "offender." -tom \_ Or until 50% is free.
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Uncategorized] UID:37897 Activity:nil 5/31 Anyone else get this spam? Call out Gouranga be happy!!! Gouranga Gouranga Gouranga .... That which brings the highest happiness!! \_ Yeah, a long time ago. \_ It's a hare krishna chant. They're trying to brainwash you. -John \_ GOURANGA!! -gta fan
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Uncategorized] UID:37898 Activity:nil 5/31 How do you write a rejection letter? "Company X, thank you for the offer, but I've decided to take on a different opportunity, blabla....." How do I say it nicely? \_ Sounds like you are doing fine there.
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:37899 Activity:nil 5/31 Yearbook picture of boy voted "most whipped" features boy wearing leash. http://csua.org/u/c86 Angry editorial (includes picture) http://csua.org/u/c87 \_ did you mean to post the same URL twice? \_ Those same people probably have no problem seeing Jet Li wearing a leash held by Morgan Freeman. \_ That girlfriend looks like Jenna Bush. Ah, it's all Dubya's fault! \_ "School officials will use stickers to cover the offending photo. They want the 240 students who already received their books to return them for alteration." -bwwwwaaaaaahahahha. \_ I wish I had a girlfriend in high school. \_ If she's underaged then it's not legal.
 2005/5/31-6/1 [Recreation/Celebrity/ParisHilton] UID:37900 Activity:high 5/31 I hate to say this but Paris Hilton's mom is HOT. She is so much classier and better looking than Paris. She's a MILF. *DROOOOL* \_ http://www.kimrichards.net/Kathy/photos.html Why does this woman look suspiciously like the MILF in the American Pie movies? \_ she looks like Zsa Zsa Gabor to me \_ Is there anyone less classy than Paris Hilton? I think even Anna Nicole Smith is classier. \_ I'm sure you can find someone less classy. That doesn't change the fact that she's rich white trash. \_ So, let me get this straight, not to put words into your mouth or anything, but (assuming you're an even remotely heterosexual male) if PH showed up at your door in a tiny satin basque and said "oh, [your name here] you manly stud, take me now", you wouldn't at least consider it? -John \_ Hot? She looks so ordinary. I saw many moms that were way hotter than her at the Oakland Zoo this past Sunday, with ample bosoms and slim waists and stuff. \_ that may be true but they're probably not as well dressed and well mannered as Mrs. Hilton. Also, most likely, they don't have a chauffer and a house full of butlers and maids. I'll go for Mrs. Hilton over pretty bimbos in the zoo any time. The question is, will she go for people like us? No.
 2005/5/31-6/1 [Science/Space] UID:37901 Activity:insanely high 5/31 \_ Um. The central claim that life cannot arise by a blind process is falsifiable. If Darwinists succeed in creating a plausible (or better yet, reproducible) story for life's creation that will falsify the claim. The argument that something that doesn't make experimentally falsifiable claims is not science is extremely weak. It's certainly true, but many things that aren't science make falsifiable claims. -- ilyas \_ Is it really ilyas? I mean, it may be theoretically, but not practically. I maintain my assertion that ID has not produced any prediction that can be tested. Since you've not produced a definition of what "life" constitutes, your "falsifiable" prediction can't actually be tested (though you seem to believe that RNA alone isn't "life"). -emarkp \_ I don't really understand. If someone creates a bacterium in a tube using a 'mechanical process' that would falsify the claim in a practical way that seems reasonable to me. I am not prepared to address the complex question of what life is, but for the purposes of this discussion we can take 'alive' to mean 'a working reproductive cell, a bacterium.' The latter is certainly a subset of the former. What do you mean by falsifiable, then? By the way, these kinds of negative falsifiable claims are very common in AI. For instance 'a computer program will never beat a human world chess champion.' -- ilyas \_ Modern bacteria are themselves the product of billions of years of evolution. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to put some stuff in a tube, shake it around etc., and get bacteria. I personally think it's quite likely that life is very highly improbable. In any event, just a couple hundred years ago people still believed in spontaneous generation. In general I find it absurd when people's response to something they don't understand is invoking the supernatural. It doesn't answer the underlying question anyway; if evolution is a problem because it doesn't fully explain the first bacteria, then ID is a problem because it doesn't explain the intelligence. \_ [nevermind] \_ This is begging the question. If the bacteria are too complex to be produced directly, produce an intermediate step, and then construct a story for how you get a sequence of intermediate steps that would produce, over time, and in a completely mechanical way, a working bacterium. There is currently no such story, but if such a story were created (by logical argument, computer simulation, whatever) then that would falsify the ID claim. This is difficult, but not impractical (serious scientists are working on this very problem). I still don't really understand your objections. Also, for the 47th time, I am not defending ID as either a credible scientific movement nor an alternative to darwinian biology. -- ilyas \_ Wrong, as usual. A line of reasoning doesn't falsify ID; just because you can come up with a way that something could have happened doesn't mean that it happened that way. -tom \_ You seem to be confusing 'cannot' with 'did not.' It's certainly possible to falsify 'cannot.' It may be possible to falsify 'did not.' -- ilyas \_ Correct, but it still puts paid to ID's basic tenet that 'x must have happened because of y because x is so complex that it couldn't have happened any other way.' By creating a plausible line of reasoning (in this case, how a bacterium could evolve naturally) you debunk 'y' as a root cause. Remember "any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic"? Once you empirically explain a phaenomenon, you place it into the realm of science and completely remove all the superstitious voodoo crap. -John \_ that sounds like something a LIBERAL would say! \_ So, we can't reconcile quantum mechanics with GR. Does that mean they're both false? \_ You made the claim that ID had falsifiable predictions. -emarkp \_ Well, so ID is not verifiable but the claim is falsifiable. How many other scientific realms work like this? I'm not aware of any. It does not seem to fall under the realm of the scientific method. It's just an assertion... even if people figure out a chain of events leading to replicating pre-rna/rna/proteins etc. then ID can still claim this stuff was "designed" to happen. \_ I am not sure what you mean by 'verifiable,' but no empirical theory can be definitely concluded to be true, including relativity, evolution, etc. This is why falsifiability is important -- a theory is deemed stronger if it can withstand repeated attempts to falsify its claims. Evolution itself had to be modified multiple times in the face of legidimate (partial) falsifications. To repeat myself yet again, I am not defending ID as a scientific movement. In response to your last sentence, I think the main ID claim as I understand it has some 'teeth,' and Darwinists would be wise to neither ignore nor attempt to discredit its source. -- ilyas \_ They can't be definitely concluded true but they can be experimentally verified, e.g. relativity predicts X we test for X, natural selection being induced, etc. ID differs in this respect. That main claim about life being unable to arise without intelligent design seems a different sort of beast. Not the sort of thing one could really teach in any substantive fashion, other than merely mentioning it as a belief. It just says that until we have "hard" verifiable theory about exactly how cells arose, then we have to talk about the "theory" that this was impossible. I dunno, I'll go ahead and ignore. \_ See below. I think the difference is in degree, not kind. Claims about the origin of life are more akin to cosmology or string theory claims -- falsifiable, but requiring immense resources for appropriate experiments to be conducted. This does not invalidate the claims, it just shows how important they are. -- ilyas \_ ^ what he said. I suspect you know what I mean by "falsifiable" -- a truth claim that can be proven false by a test. However, just because a hypothetical truth statement can be falsified it doesn't mean it's useful or seriously admissible. When ID can suggest an experiement that doesn't take an infinite amount of time to attempt to falsify (defining terms and initial conditions, etc.) then it should be addressed. Not before. -emarkp \_ Another thought: if the claim is that life can't arise by chance, I don't see how creating a 'living organism' in the lab would disprove that. It would have to arise by chance, wouldn't it? -emarkp \_ That's a little obtuse, sorry. Miller's experiment was famous precisely because he created laboratory conditions which reasonably duplicated conditions that could have arisen by chance during early Earth's history. -- ilyas \_ yeah, I'm sure the inability to create life by random chance in a laboratory has great relevance to whether it was possible to create life by random chance on a sphere with a surface area of 200 million square miles. Tell us about the stars, ilyas. -tom \_ Tom, you are a dumbass. I said that IF someone succeeds in doing task X in a lab (or by computer simulation), that it would falsify claim Y. I never implied that ANYTHING follows if task X cannot be done. That's all you. -- ilyas \_ Right, and since we can't prove that the stars aren't sentient, they might be. Go tilt at windmills because they might be giants. -tom \_ Nice red herring. Do you even know what falsifiability means? -- ilyas \_ No, but I know that arguing with ID people is exactly like arguing with you; any time you try to pin them down, they claim they meant something else. -tom \_ Well, tom, if you knew what falsifiability meant, you would see that during the 2 threads now I haven't changed any conventional definitions to suit my rhetorical aims as you seem to imply. By the way, that's two red herrings in one thread. Impressive. -- ilyas \- The Open MOTD and its Enemies. \_ I'm familiar with Miller's experiment. However, his experiment wasn't chance and any ID supporter could argue that point. Or simply move the bar up and say that amino acids aren't sufficient. -emarkp \_ Yes of course. Miller's experiment does not falsify the 'cannot' claim. \_ Then what can? -emarkp \_ I already said, either: (a) an experiment like Miller's (perhaps on a much larger scale) that results in a reproducible cell from components that are reasonable to assume to exist. Or: (b) An accurate computer simulation of the underlying chemistry, meant to accelerate the time, if that's what's needed. At this point scientists haven't even been able to produce a story in English, let alone in forms (a) or (b). Whether (a) or (b) will convince ID people I don't know, but it will convince _me_. -- ilyas \_ (a) may not be possible. (b) why should we trust a computer simulation? If our model is incorrect, it won't predict anything accurately. Also, simulating a large system of organic molecules interacting is probably impossible. -emarkp \_ I was giving the general form of the answer I would find acceptable. Obviously one can quibble about various details of the experiment and simulation (and people do, and should!) But those are details. The important thing, to me, is that I can see an experiment that _would_ falsify the claim. It may be too large, too impractical an experiment, but it is still an experiment. String theory is only falsifiable in an extremely expensive way (you need a really BIG accelerator), and while it receives some criticisms for it, it is not dismissed outright. The underlying nature of reality is an important and complex problem, as is the origin of life. It's not unreasonable that a falsifiable experiment should be very expensive or difficult to conduct. If not, we may have been done by now! -- ilyas \_ String theory is a great example of something comparable to ID. It has no way to test it experimentally. Hopefully the attempt to create tiny black holes will test it, but even that is kind of iffy. I'd be satisfied if advocates of an abiogenesis theory from chance simply said "this is a guess, that we may never be able to prove." Evolution on the other hand is a different story. -emarkp [oh, and please format 80 cols] \_ wtf are you guys talking about. All you need is to 100% prove any supernatural phenomenon, and you go light years ahead in terms of making people believe God / aliens created us. \_ This is probably never going to happen for much the same reasons that AI doesn't get credit for its successes. Once people figure out how to program a computer to do task X thought previously to require intelligence, people quickly give up their intuitions that task X _does_ require intelligence. Similarly, if someone reproduces a 'supernatural' phenomenon in a lab, physicists will get on the case, and things will cease to be supernatural before long. I think it's mostly a matter of point of view than anything else. I think even in the realm of scientifically understood phenomena, the Universe is a magical place. -- ilyas phenomena, the Universe is a magical place. In a vaguely related piece of news, someone solved checkers. -- ilyas \_ shrug, all you need to show me is that you can part seas just by willing it, feed 5,000 people to satiety with five loaves of bread and two fish and come out with 12 baskets of leftovers, or walk on water. \_ Sufficiently advanced technology, etc. \_ I am led to believe that this had occurred without "sufficiently advanced technology, etc." \_ Valis, Erich von Daniken, etc. :-) -John
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37902 Activity:nil 5/31 Woodward and Bernstein confirm that W. Mark Felt was "Deep Throat." See washington post. \_ Linda Lovelace is turning over in her grave! \_ She didn't die. In fact, she was born again. \_ Which came first? \_ I don't think LL ever came for real. \_ "On several occasions he confided to me, 'I'm the guy they used to call "Deep Throat,"' ... [Felt] still has qualms about his actions, but he also knows that historic events compelled him to behave as he did: standing up to an executive branch intent on obstructing his agency's pursuit of the truth. ... Felt, having long harbored the ambivalent emotions of pride and self-reproach, has lived for more than 30 years in a prison of his own making, a prison built upon his strong moral principles and his unwavering loyalty to country and cause. But now, buoyed by his family's revelations and support, he need feel imprisoned no longer." \_ I'm waiting for a Deep Throat equivalent for GWB. Let's pray for it. \_ Deep Fist is actually our own Tom Holub! You heard it here first! \_ And he failed to change GWB's Regime of Incompetency. Homeland Security begins with regime change, at our homeland. \_ Not going to happen. Loyalty to GWB is paramount to those in a position close enough to affect the administration. The American public has accepted that the current admin engaged in Operation Iraqi Freedom with less than solid proof. Mr Bush's Splendid Little War will fall through the same cracks as Reagan's Iran-Contra dealings. History will judge in another 50 years. \_ Actually, a majority of Americans still thinks that Saddam had WMDs. \_ They also can't find Canada on a map, can't tell you when WWII happened, can't identify when Jesus lived to within a hundred years, and can't solve a quadratic equation. My mom teaches college freshman, and started giving them a quiz sometimes to see if these things you hear about Americans' ignorance are true. They are. \_ And most still think SH had terrorist ties. GWB has reached teflon levels with this.
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37903 Activity:nil 5/31 Mad about suicide bombing? Attack a KFC! http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/31/asia/web.0531pakistan.php \_ Blame the West first! \_ Two frozen in the freezer. So do terrorists give you a choice now? Either get blown to pieces or frozen to death?
 2005/5/31-6/5 [Uncategorized] UID:37904 Activity:nil 5/31 How do I do anonymous FTP to http://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu from another machine? Thanks. \_ This may be related:
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37905 Activity:nil 5/31 I've noticed weird things in the past few months where Fox News does a 180 and writes unpatriotic op-ed. Why is this happening? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157960,00.html http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157948,00.html The first one says US has a long history of bad judgements (war) and the second one criticizes US and its citizens. \_ Reverse psychology \_ They can see which way the wind is blowing and are trying to get ahead of it.
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:37906 Activity:nil 5/31 Has anyone seen the new Honda Civic commercial where they put a crash dummy outside of the car and then use the Civic to drive into that dummy? Then they say something to the effect "We don't just care about the people inside, we also care about the people outside." \_ Honda's campaign called "Safety for Everyone". ACE body structure, side airbags, stability control, etc... making these standard on their latest releases (and any future models). \_ Interesting. According to Court TV, automobile is the best murder weapon because you have a much better chance at getting involuntary manslaughter (rather than first degree) and minimal jail time. This move from Honda would turn away would be car murderers to other manufacturers, like Hummer. -troller
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Recreation/Media] UID:37907 Activity:moderate 5/31 No Sith Reviews yet? \_ I hear there's this thing called the Internet now. \_ Sith? What are Sith? You spoiled the fucking movie now, asshole! \_ Sith is a plural word?? Thanks a lot buddy. \_ It didn't suck and is worth seeing. \_ You are a cruel son-of-a-bitch. -dans \_ why? !pp \_ My take on it is that I don't get the 2.5 hours of my life back. This runs counter to pp's assessment. Fortunately I saw it on Google's dime so at least I didn't pay to suffer. -dans \_ how many hours yave you spent on this stupid flame war? Are you under the impression that you'll get those hours of your life back? \_ Roughly 45 minutes. But unlike Episode III, the flamewar amuses me, and, thus, is a worthwhile use of my time. -dans \_ I feel sorry for you and your kind. Admit it now that you wouldn't have been happy with anything Lucas put out. You guys are always so overly critical, and it's very annoying. \_ Yah, I don't see what the big deal is. Ep3 was a flawed film with a lot of problems, but nonetheless I still found it to be very entertaining. That IS the point of going to a film for the vast majority of us.... -mice \_ Actually it has nothing to do with Lucas, or Star Wars. The movie sucked. It was over two hours of bad dialogue, overly long fight scenes in need of an editor. I was not entertained. Incidentally, I thought the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy was basically an unwatchable hack job too. But, really, I can't do anywhere near the justice to how bad Episodes 1-3 were as this New Yorker article does: http://csua.org/u/c8d -dans \_ Maybe you should stop going to movies. \_ There was recently a list published somewhere of "100 top films of all time." It's nowhere near perfect or complete, but has some good, solid and artistically worthy works. I recommend having a look at some of them. Remember, a movie does not have to be "good" to be entertaining, and THERE'S NOTHING FUCKING WRONG WITH OVERLY LONG FIGHT SCENES AND BAD DIALOGUE. What are you, a communist? -John \_ I can't actually tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but, by definition, there's something wrong with overly long fight scenes and bad dialogue. As the term would suggest, overly long fight scenes are, well, overly long. And bad dialogue is, well, bad. -dans \_ You're obviously the kind of person who's never come home from work to play Doom 2 with the automatic double-barrelled shotgun unlimited ammo cheat. You wouldn't understand the aethereal qualities inherent in truly bad dialogue and overly long fight scenes. I sentence you to watch Errol Flynn movies. -John \_ Oh, how wrong you are... a) I think Errol Flynn rules b) I'm more partial to the chainsaw cheat c) Sorry fanboy, Episode 3, while better than 1 and 2, was still that bad. I mean, for chrissakes, Jar-Jar lives! -dans \_ Who you calling fanboy, you commie bastard?! I am simply commenting on the necessity of bad dialogue and overly long fight scenes. And I kind of liked Ep2. In that case I sentence you to Plan 9 from Outer Space, where the bad dialogue almost-but-not-quite makes up for lack of overly long fight scenes. -John \_ Hold on a second. John, the European socialist is accusing me of being a commie. That's rich. -dans \_ Um. He lives in Helvetia. He's no socialist. Heck, I want to move there. -- ilyas \_ Yes, but despite your intelligence, you are completely and utterly irrational, and Obviously you haven't seen the girls who run around -> detached from here on a hot summer day. ilyas is displaying -> reality. So I really pretty sound judgment, if you ask me. -> don't consider your opinion to be a useful gauge of, well, anything. -dans \_ Please. Moving half-way around the world for opinion to be a pretty girls? There are lots of hot chicks useful gauge of, well, right here in SF. Variety too. -dans anything. -dans \_ Dans, meet heil cherman chohn guy. You probably pirated that movie, you damn Hollywood-hating long hair. What would Bud Day say? -John \_ Well, I will readily admit that it felt like they got the guy on the set with plumber's ass to write all the romantic dialogue. Thank god most of that was over within the first twenty minutes. I don't think I'd have been able to sit through the film if it had gone on. -mice \_ Maybe you should stop going to movies. \_ Why? Because I have standards? I thought Fight Club and Requiem for a Dream were fantastic. Spiderman 2 was no magnum opus, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. Hell, I liked Hitchhikers'. -dans \_ Implying that anyone disagreeing with you has no standards? That's just damn silly. \_ I was not the one that suggested I stop going to movies. -dans \_ I wasn't impressed with that review. He's clearly impressed with his own wit. But I \_ And you clearly are not a regular reader of the New Yorker -dans frankly think he misses the point. He's going off on rambles about the movie's philosophy and "vulgarity". And character names, for chrissake. I mean, whatever. None of this stuff is new. By the way, I recommend that you all go and watch the animated "Clone Wars Vol. 1" which helps explain a couple things and really just has a lot of cool action and minimum bad dialogue. A DVD rip is out there on bittorrent if you want to stiff Lucas and all the various production and distribution staff out of their \$15 like I did. I haven't seen any of Vol. 2. As for Sith, and LOTR for that matter, I actually was more upset with some of the LOTR aspects. Sith entertained me more. Yes there are instances of laughably bad dialogue and acting but overall the sheer grandiosity of the thing was well worth the price of admission. Assuming you like such fluff in general. \_ I saw Clone Wars Vol 1 and 2 and it made me excited to watch Episode III. I was disappointed by epIII. They Should have made the Clone Wars into a real movie and skipped this movie. \_ If they were gonna skip movies, they should've skipped EP2 and EP1 (in that order). If you're gonna skip EP3, you might as well skip the whole prequel trilogy. (Not a bad idea, actually...)
 2005/5/31-6/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Ilyas, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:37908 Activity:kinda low 5/31 http://csua.com/?wiki=1 I'm looking for volunteers to update MOTD WIKI, someone to update definitions like Ding!, ilyased, squish, etc. If you're interested please email me and I'll give you an account. Thanks. -kchang \_ Stupid question. How exactly does one email you? finger: kchang: no such user \_ /csua/bin/finger kchang \_ my name, at soda. If I don't respond it probably went to /dev/null thanks to spamassassin, in which case just post your login. Thanks. -kchang \_ oh, and you can ADD words too with the account. \_ I propose the first volunteer create a list of previously squished users to the Wiki, along with details on why the user was squished \_ Dear Anonymous Fuckhead Coward, Every person of substance I have ever met has made mistakes in his/her past. Some of these mistakes were minor, some were spectacular, ranging from outright stupid to inconsiderate to just plain evil. I count these individuals as people of substance in part because they learned from their past mistakes. But more importantly, they now spend their time engaging in interesting pursuits and creating useful and beautiful works. I often wonder if the current state of affairs persists in spite of those past mistakes or because of them. So, other than trying to punish people for sins of yesteryear, what have you been up to lately? -dans sins of yesteryear, what have you been up to lately? -Dubya \_ Actually I think it would be entertaining to read about the history of squishage. I for one would like to be remembered as the h0zer who is foolish enough to try to bring down the entire EECS network by fingering it once a second. -kchang \_ That was only a near squish. \_ Tried to? I _did_ bring down the network with a simple program that does while true fork(). Why would you want to be remembered as a h0zer? \_ I can see how you would not want to be remembered for \_ I can see how you would to not want to be remembered for the actual time you got squished. \_ apparently EECS does not like your 'finger', haha -troll \_ tien, can you beat this h0zer? http://csua.com/?entry=32148 \_ Uh, I guess not. -tien
 2005/5/31 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:37909 Activity:nil 5/31 "Respectable" Terrorists" (W. Mark Felt aka "Deep Throat" sounds like a stand up guy!) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1414117/posts -jblack \_ [ip address replaced for the thousanth time, and for the thousanth time, fuck you.] \_ If it bothers you that much, just nuke his stuff until he complies or until you get shouted down. He's probably just trying to piss you off, you know. \_ Fuck you jblack. Go back to your Red Neck Virginia state.
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