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1999/11/16-17 [Politics/Domestic] UID:16894 Activity:high
11/15   Why does the US Constitution states the separation between
        church and state, while in court people are required to take the
        oath "...... So help me God." ?  -- yuen
        \_ Sue Yuen!
        \_ Boy you are asking for trouble aren't you?  Let me tell you
           right off that that kind of logical thinking is HIGHLY frowned
           upon by society. But, at the risk of being denounced, i'll lead
           you further into temptation... 1st) "the separation of church
           and state" comes from a letter from Jefferson (1802) in regards
           to the first amendment and is nowhere found in the constitution.
                Clearly the first amendment was a guarantee of Freedom of
           Religion, specifically to be free from undue gov't restriction.
           It was not designed nor intended to allow gov't to impose
           secularism on the masses.  This contemporary concept (more
           aptly: "freedom FROM religion.") is a creation of the soft-
           minded liberal, with no respect for reason, history or law.
                -crebbs (who believes that religion is a crutch and is
           astounded to see how many individuals are hell bent on kicking
           a crutch out from under intellectual cripples).
           \_ http://www.capitalism.org  Softminded liberals indeed.
           \_ Oh, I thought the requirement is in the constitution, according
              to
              http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991116/ts/court_prayer_5.html
              -- yuen
              "The justices agreed to review ...... violated the constitutional
              requirement on church-state separation ......" -- yuen
              \_ Please note that yahoo news != supreme court justice.
                 -emarkp
                 Try reading the actual constitution sometime.  You
                 might even come to a similar conclusion as crebbs.  -emarkp
        \_ You aren't required to say "so help me God".  Only to swear to
           tell the truth, whole truth, nothing but the truth.  God won't
           help you if you lie and get slapped with a perjury charge or
           something equally unpleasant depending on the case.
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