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2000/4/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18026 Activity:very high 80%like:18029
4/16    Is X-windows (enlightenment) seriously deficient in key-board
        short-cuts or am i seriously deficient in knowledge?  If the
        latter, someone please direct me to a resource.
        \_ since when did x-windows and enlightenment become synonymous
           with each other?
                \_ since redhat became synonymous with linux
                        \_ When you're most of the market it isn't a hard
                           claim to make.  As if anyone important has heard of
                           your KewlWarez linux distribution.  Anyone smart
                           isn't using linux anyway.
             \_  I was simply specifying my manager (see below) -orig.Pster
        \_ try looking at the enlightenment configurer thingie.  You can
           define your own shortcuts to do just about anything.  Or there
           is a file somewhere in .enlighenment that you can hack if you
           enjoy that sorta thing. -darin
                \_ A GUI like windows? I find it amusing that the linux crowd
                   so badly wants to be like the OS they so despise.
                   \_ Not even. Besides, Microsoft created a GUI like
                      the Mac one (though much shitier looking). Isn't it
                      amusing that the Windows crowd so badly wants to
                      be like the OS they so despise?
                        \_ You're about 15 years out of date and anyway, the
                           Mac wasn't the first anything.
                            \_ Mac was first GUI to be succesfully marketed.
                               From then up to iMac, Apple's lived or died
                               by marketing, not technology.  Unfortunately,
                               the same is true for MS, and they were much
                               better at marketing but worse at technology.
                               \_ technology? what technology?  it's all
                                  marketing.  but according to b.g. "the
                                  best is yet to come".  maybe we'll see
                                  some technology soon coming from redmond.
                                  \_ That's just more marketing.  Why do you
                                     think MS is finally going to innovate
                                     something?  They didn't need to in the
                                     past but suddenly feel like good
                                     samaritans?  What for?  Research costs
                                     money and that hurts their bottom line.
                                     They don't need to invent anything.
                                     \_ Research creates patents that you can
                                        beat people/other companies over the
                                        head with.
                                        \_ MS doesn't need patents to beat
                                           others over the head with.  They
                                           have very few.
                     \_  Windows sucks because it is unreliable and poorly
                         designed, e.g. crashes all the time and needs to
                         be restarted all the time The U.I. for windows98
                         is much better than any XM.
                \_ I've never been able to configure enlightenment to,
                   say, RaiseLower with a shift-mouseclick.  In fact,
                   I couldn't find any mouse-based shortcuts at all.
                   I thought that that was such a deficiency that I
                   decided not to use it.
        \_ X-Windows has no keyboard shortcuts at all.   X-Windows is just
           the display layer - all user interface is from the programs that
           sit on top of it.  This is what makes it so incredibly configurable.
                \_ This is a fairly useless answer.  It seems clear
                   that he was talking about the enlightenment window
                   manager specifically.
                        \_ Yes, but this is explaining why next time he should
                         just ask about enlightnment instead of the way he did.
                         \_ You have a brain.  Use it, instead of acting literal
                   \_ Actually i am glad to have the info.  I did not know
                      it but did know there was a diff. between X-windows
                      and enlightenment.  I phrased the question the way i did
                      because it is the X-mngr i was using, i suspected
                      that short-cuts would be a function of the XM, but i
                      have not noticed any keyboard ShrtCts in any XM.  I
                      am not married to Enlightenment. -orig.pster
                        \_ twm and it's many derivates all allow you to bind
                           any WM function to any key or mouse button or
                            mouse-modifier key combo.  Sames for mwm/CDE.
        \_ The program you want is e16keyedit.
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