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8/22 College ranking again: http://www.csua.org/u/m5o Stanfraud: #4 Cal: #21 \_ What. The. Fuck. They told me Cal is as good as Furd. They lied. \_ Proof that privatized education >>> Public education. Jackie Johnson is hot. \_ UCLA #25. Uh... \_ The US News rankings double- and triple-count advantages for private universities; they count endowments, and then lots of things that endowments buy you. -tom \_ An interesting thing was to look at the rank as given by guidance counselors. While not infallible, it's a different viewpoint: http://tinyurl.com/5hk8sw Of course, Forbes did their own ranking this year and put Stanford at #23 and Cal at #73 (!). \_ URL? Forbes did a "how much do graduates make at mid-career" ranking and Cal was something like 20th. \_ http://tinyurl.com/6qwr9z Where's the URL you saw? \_ http://preview.tinyurl.com/65r7a3 Cal is #1 for public universities \_ And #12 overall \_ Forbes has no public universities in the top 60, and has such luminaries as Kalamazoo College higher than any public university. Their rankins are bunk. -tom \_ UVA is #43 \_ Ah, missed that. So it's only Cooper Union, Kenyon College, and Franklin and Marshall that are better than any public university. And of course Swarthmore and Williams are better than Yale, MIT, and Columbia. And something called "Centre College" in Kentucky is better than MIT, University of Chicago, Stanford, and all public universities. Bunk. If you invent a metric, you have to see if it passes the smell test before you make a fool of yourself by publishing it. -tom \_ "Of course, no ranking system is perfect, but for Forbes to publish and promote a list of rankings that are based 50 percent on "Who's Who..." (a for-profit corporation that makes its money getting its "invitees" to pay a fee to have their names published in its vanity publication) and "Rate My Professors" (a self-selected website that represents, at most, 1-to-2 percent of any given college's student population) is beyond incomprehensible. It is inexcusable. Forbes owes everyone in this country an apology and explanation, as do the so-called "academic statisticians" who lent their "credibility" to this publication." \_ URL? |
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| www.csua.org/u/m5o -> finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/105598/Best-Colleges-2009 com Harvard Harvard University Photo: AP Harvard tops this year's list of America's Best Colleges from US News & World Report. Princeton and Yale come in second and third, respectively, while Amherst College and Williams College share the No. Top 2009 Business Programs This year, Harvard managed to beat perennial No. Harvard, which has a nearly $35 billion endowment, made big news last December when it announced that it would increase the financial packages it offers to students from families that earn $180,000 or less. The move was a dramatic leap beyond the $60,000 threshold that other highly selective universities had been using to determine which students were eligible for the most generous assistance packages. In another PR boost for the nation's oldest university, last school year was also Harvard's first under the guidance of President Drew Gilpin Faust. Her predecessor, Lawrence Summers, left after making controversial remarks about women in the science disciplines. The reputation survey that US News sends to top college officials at each school counts for 25 percent of a college's ranking. The other 75 percent is based on quantitative data that assesses a college's performance in areas such as graduation and retention rates, faculty resources, financial resources, student selectivity, and alumni giving. Each year, the formula is reassessed to stay on top of recent developments in higher education. For example, just as Harvard and dozens of other colleges recently have made adjustments to become more accessible to families of lesser financial means, US News has incorporated data about the proportion of low-income students a school enrolls into its ranking measurements. These periodic methodology adjustments make flat year-to-year comparisons of a school's US News ranking somewhat misleading. Nevertheless, alumni always tend to take note of which schools have gained an edge on their academic rivals. For example, in the National Universities list this year, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology finished in fourth place, besting its West Coast rival, the California Institute of Technology, which landed in sixth place. Last year, Caltech held the edge with a fifth place ranking while MIT placed seventh. Part of the difference: MIT improved its faculty resources statistics slightly, while Caltech dipped there a little. Last year, Navy had the edge, finishing 20th while Army was 22nd. Dartmouth College Location Hanover, NH 2007 Total Enrollment 5,849 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $36,915 Application Deadline 1/1 Academic Calendar Quarter 12. Northwestern University Location Evanston, IL 2007 Total Enrollment 18,028 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $37,125 Application Deadline 1/1 Academic Calendar Quarter 12. Louis, MO 2007 Total Enrollment 13,382 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $37,248 Application Deadline 1/15 Academic Calendar Semester Cornell Cornell University Photo: AP 14. Cornell University Location Ithaca, NY 2007 Total Enrollment 19,800 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $36,504 Application Deadline 1/1 Academic Calendar Semester 15. Johns Hopkins University Location Baltimore, MD 2007 Total Enrollment 19,737 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $37,700 Application Deadline 1/1 Academic Calendar Semester Brown Brown University Photo: AP 16. Brown University Location Providence, RI 2007 Total Enrollment 8,167 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $37,718 Application Deadline 1/1 Academic Calendar Semester 17. Rice University Location Houston, TX 2007 Total Enrollment 5,243 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $28,996 Application Deadline 1/2 Academic Calendar Semester 18. Emory University Location Atlanta, GA 2007 Total Enrollment 12,570 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $36,336 Application Deadline 1/15 Academic Calendar Semester University University of Notre Dame Photo: Courtesy of Notre Dame 18. University of Notre Dame Location Notre Dame, IN 2007 Total Enrollment 11,733 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $36,847 Application Deadline 12/31 Academic Calendar Semester 18. Vanderbilt University Location Nashville, TN 2007 Total Enrollment 11,847 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $37,005 Application Deadline 1/3 Academic Calendar Semester 21. University of California at Berkeley Location Berkeley, CA 2007 Total Enrollment 34,953 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees In-state: $8,932 Out-of-state: $29,540 Application Deadline 11/30 Academic Calendar Semester Carnegie Carnegie Mellon University Photo: AP 22. Carnegie Mellon University Location Pittsburgh, PA 2007 Total Enrollment 10,493 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $38,844 Application Deadline 1/1 Academic Calendar Semester 23. Georgetown University Location Washington, DC 2007 Total Enrollment 14,826 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees $38,122 Application Deadline 1/10 Academic Calendar Semester 23. University of Virginia Location Charlottesville, VA 2007 Total Enrollment 24,257 2008-2009 Tuition and Fees In-state: $9,300 Out-of-state: $26,900 Application Deadline 1/2 Academic Calendar Semester University University of California at LA Photo: Courtesy of UCLA 25. All information provided "as is" for informational purposes only, not intended for trading purposes or advice. nor any of independent providers is liable for any informational errors, incompleteness, or delays, or for any actions taken in reliance on information contained herein. site, you agree not to redistribute the information found therein. 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| tinyurl.com/5hk8sw -> colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-counselor-rank America's Best High Schools to tell us which national universities they think offer the best education to their students. They rated the universities on a scale of 1 to 5 (with 5 being the top score) or marked "don't know" if they were unfamiliar with that particular college. |
| tinyurl.com/6qwr9z -> www.forbes.com/lists/2008/94/opinions_college08_Americas-Best-Colleges_Rank.html PM ET Rank Name State Cost Freshman Class Size 1 Princeton University NJ 47,975 1,242 2 California Institute of Technology CA 46,560 231 3 Harvard University MA 48,550 1,668 4 Swarthmore College PA 48,215 365 5 Williams College MA 47,140 540 6 United States Military Academy NY NA 1,272 7 Amherst College MA 48,352 NA 8 Wellesley College MA 47,870 590 9 Yale University CT 50,350 1,318 10 Columbia University NY 49,260 1,333 11 Northwestern University IL 49,779 1,981 12 Wabash College IN 35,550 250 13 Centre College KY 37,000 316 14 Massachusetts Institute of Technology MA 48,200 1,067 15 Bowdoin College ME 48,260 476 16 United States Air Force Academy CO 0 1,214 17 Middlebury College VT 50,160 644 18 University of Chicago IL 49,976 1,300 19 Smith College MA 47,976 656 20 Pomona College CA 47,580 375 21 Wesleyan University CT 49,346 733 22 Haverford College PA 48,932 315 23 Stanford University CA 49,227 1,721 24 Hamilton College NY 47,900 468 25 Sarah Lawrence College NY 52,210 363 Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next > Read All Comments Have a question? Ask our community of experts here. Digg It! Digg It! My Yahoo! Opinions 79. Opinions 81. The World 82. |
| preview.tinyurl.com/65r7a3 -> www.forbes.com/leadership/2008/07/30/college-salary-graduates-lead-cz_kb_0730topcolleges.html com that looks at earnings of alumni at colleges around the country. Graduates of Dartmouth College finished on top of the list with a median compensation of $134,000, edging out alumni of Princeton University who finished second with a median comp of $131,000. While many rankings look at what newly minted college graduates are making, we ranked the schools based on the pay of alumni with 10 to 20 years of work experience. Looking at the pay of alumni with less than five years of work experience, Dartmouth trails 18 other colleges with an average paycheck of $58,000, although most top schools are bunched closely together. The two outliers are Stanford University with median pay of $70,400 and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where recent grads earn $72,200 thanks to lucrative engineering jobs secured straight out of school. people ) and McKinsey, which are almost all high-paying posts. Yet two other big employers of recent grads fall on the other end of the pay scale: Teach for America and the Peace Corps. Both organizations are focused on helping the less fortunate and require two-year commitments. So how do Dartmouth grads, many starting at nonprofits, leapfrog their peers when it comes to compensation as they gain more experience? "Dartmouth produces well-rounded people who can move into senior-level positions easily," says Monica Wilson, associate director of career services at the school. Another important factor in the success of Dartmouth grads is an extremely tight and loyal alumni network. Dartmouth is located in tiny Hanover, NH, and is the smallest of the Ivy League schools with 4,100 undergrad students enrolled. Yet the alumni network is extremely impressive and stretches from Daniel Webster to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during its 239 year history. PayScale's database includes real-time salary data culled from 13 million unique compensation profiles. PayScale allows users to compare their salary online to other people with similar individual and job characteristics. We only included schools with more than 1,000 people enrolled. The median salary figures are only for full-time employees and exclude anyone that went on to receive a graduate degree. Salary numbers include bonuses, commissions and profit sharing but not equity compensation. The only public college to appear on our list of the top 20 schools was the University of California at Berkeley. A separate ranking of public schools shows eight California schools in the top 20. The University of California system is one of the best in the country and has 220,000 students spread across 10 campuses. However, the California schools and those schools on the East Coast get a significant boost in our rankings because they are largely placing people in careers in big coastal cities like New York and San Francisco where salaries tend to be higher. Overall, Dartmouth students at mid-career (10 to 20 years experience) finished above any other school. Yet when it comes to the top earners from each school, Yale University grads just nipped out those from Dartmouth. The highest-paid 10% of Yale alums earn more than $326,000 compared to $321,000 for Dartmouth's best paid. The third and fourth ranked schools by this measure were fellow Ivy members Harvard University and University of Pennsylvania. The fifth- ranked and first non-Ivy school among the top earners was Colgate University located in Hamilton, NY, where the highest-paid graduates earn $265,000. Wilson says that recruiters visiting Dartmouth tell her that Dartmouth doesn't have as strong a business background as some of its competitors but that students can always learn the business. What they do like, she adds: "The ability to think outside the box and adapt as easily as Dartmouth students do is what puts them ahead." |