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2007/7/17-19 [Transportation/Bicycle] UID:47318 Activity:low
7/17    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/health/nutrition/17essa.html
        #ifdef OLD_FAT_BASTARD          /* Holub */
        RideBike
        #endif
        #ifdef THIN_N_SVELTE            /* Kuroda, PSB */
        Run
        #endif
        \_ I bet tom could put kuroda and psb in a distance run
           \- ???. relative to the population, my best distances are (were)
              in the 1-8mi range. i rarely ran longer than that, and never
              ran +20mi plus ... i didnt think that was healthy.
        \_ It is certainly possible to bicycle with reasonable strength
           while being overweight, and bicycling doesn't tend to take off
           weight as fast as other activities (although it depends on how
           you train).
           Mountain unicycling, on the other hand, is serious work and it
           is hard to avoid dropping weight while doing it regularly.
           In any case, weight is majorly affected by diet and by genetics,
           no matter what your activity.  My dad ran 9 marathons and I don't
           think he was below 200 pounds for any of them.  (at 6'1")  -tom
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www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/health/nutrition/17essa.html
GINA KOLATA Published: July 17, 2007 Andy Hampsten, the former pro cyclist, the only American ever to win the Tour of Italy, the first American ever to win the grueling Alpe dHuez stage of the Tour de France, does his best to discourage casual riders from signing up for the cycling trips he leads in Tuscany. Skip to next paragraph Akiko Nishimura for The New York Times NO TYPECASTING Unlike running, a sport usually dominated by young, rail-thin athletes, cycling is more forgiving of body type and age because of different aerodynamics. The best cyclists going up hills are those with the best weight-to-strength ratio, which generally means being thin and strong, but heavier cyclists go faster downhill. All of our trips are designed to satisfy experienced riders, Mr Hampsten writes on his Web site. To train, he suggests, you should ride at least 100 miles a week for at least 6 to 10 weeks on routes with as many hills as you can find. So I had an image of what our fellow cyclists would look like when my husband, son and I arrived in Castagneto Carducci for a cycling vacation. They would look like Mr Hampsten, who at age 45 remains boyishly thin and agile, bouncing with energy. For the most part, our group consisted of ordinary-looking, mostly middle-age men and a few middle-age women. One of them was Bob Eastaugh, a 63-year-old justice on the Alaska Supreme Court who said he rode mostly to stay in shape for his true passion, downhill ski racing. The longest hill was 15 miles, the steepest had a 15 percent grade, the longest one-day ride was 90 miles, and the terrain was never, ever flat. It is hard to imagine that a group of middle-age adults could have handled an equivalently difficult 10 days of running. It turns out that others, too, have been struck by the paradox of bicycling fitness. Berry had been a competitive runner, and he thought good cyclists would look like good runners rail-thin and young. Berry added, I quickly learned that when I was riding with someone with a 36-inch waist, I could be looking at the back of their waist when they rode away from me. He came to realize, he said, that cycling is a lot more forgiving of body type and age than running. The best cyclists going up hills are those with the best weight-to-strength ratio, which generally means being thin and strong. University of Maryland, explains that the difference between running on a flat road and cycling on a flat road has to do with the movement of the athletes center of gravity. In running, when you see someone who is obviously overweight, they will be in trouble, Dr. The more you weigh, the more the center of gravity moves and the more energy it costs. But in cycling, there are different aerodynamics your center of gravity is not moving up and down. The difference between cycling and running is like the difference between moving forward on a pogo stick and rolling along on wheels. Marquette University who was a competitive runner, once said good runners run so smoothly they can almost balance an apple on their heads. Even Mr Hampsten has been surprised by the cycling paradox. He recalls a woman from San Diego who went on one of his trips. She was quite overweight, he said, and even though she claimed to be an experienced cyclist, he worried that she would have trouble keeping up with the group. As for the effects of aging, serious recreational cyclists do slow down, but they are not penalized as much as runners by the passing of years, Dr. Its because cycling, while grueling, is not as demanding as running. The best example of that, in a bizarre way, is the Tour de France, Dr. What runner could go out six hours a day for three weeks and not be totally trashed after a day or two? Still, even the best serious recreational cyclist is almost a different species from a professional rider. How much faster, our touring group asked Mr Hampsten, would a professional rider go up that 15 percent grade during a race? About twice as fast as the fastest in our group, he replied. Mr Hampsten used to compete in 100 races a year, including the Tour de France, and he would recover by going for a long, relaxed ride. It sometimes took him three hours of cycling to warm up after a hard race. But recovery does become a limiting factor for professional cyclists, Mr Hampsten said. Its why most professional riders can no longer win long, multiday races after age 32. Its almost eerie that at 32 years, you stop winning, Mr Hampsten said. The endurance seems to stay, but recuperation doesnt come around. When Mr Hampsten retired, he was 34, and I hadnt won a race in two years. Now, he estimates, he is 80 percent as fit as he used to be. As soon as our cycling tour ended, he headed out on a fast ride that included a long hill to the town of Suvereto, taking a road with 187 switchback turns. 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