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2004/12/29 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:35465 Activity:high
12/28   http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12/28/academic.freedom.ap/index.html
        Conservatism, it is not only a trend, it is the future.
        \_ Make sure you read all the way to the end so you can see David
           Horowitz calling liberal professors "sissies".
        \_ "To many professors, there's a new and deeply troubling aspect
           to this latest chapter in the debate over academic freedom:
           students trying to dictate what they don't want to be taught."
           That's just beautiful... simply marvelous.  The liberal navelgazing.
           \_ My God, it's full of lint!
           \_ There are two institutions that try to protect and grow democracy
              without actually practicing it themselves: academia and the
              military. There are good reasons for this.
              \_ Yes, one is to indoctrinate the young with the propaganda
                 required by the state, the other is offer security to the
                 state. The former provides the cadre of youth to feed into
                 the latter.
              \_ I'm calling bullshit on this.  Academia doesn't "protect and
                 grow democracy".
                 \_ The more educated the populace, the more effective
                    democracy is.
                    \_ Wow, one unfounded assertion backing up another.  Sorry,
                       education is not always an improvement.  Many highly
                       educated people don't have much common sense.
                       \_ Nor did they have such before they became educated.
                          With education, however, there is the slightest
                          chance of improving understand and critical analysis;
                          without education, there is no such chance. As for
                          unfounded assertions, this is the motd, not usenet.
                          Expect less, and be disappointed less.
        \_ The lawsuit is something I agree w/. Why should an eng. student
           (not sure these people were eng.) have to read some book about
           the Koran? Total waste of time. If you are interested, then you
           should learn about it on your own a la psb. If not, the school
           should let you get on with your life (ie doing homework and
           playing counter-strike).
           \_ If you want field-specific education, consider vocational
              training.  A University-level education is supposed to expose
              your young mind to a variety of topics and opinions so that you
              will have more experience of the world around you.  Its success
              or failure, however, range wildly.
              \_ That's what the diverse student body is for, not one of
                 the core class requirements. The core class requirements
                 are supposed to teach you basic universal cognitive skills
                 so that when you go interview you know how to speak in
                 a coherent manner. Reading the Quran should be relegated
                 to things like Eastern Culture Studies or Theology.
                 If we make people read the Quran, why don't we make them
                 read the Bible then, or the Book of Mormon, or recite
                 Koans?
              \_ WOW. You have really bought into all that humanities bs.
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Education Conservative students, liberal profs Latest fight pits teachers against pupils Wampler Kris Wampler was one of three students who sued the University of North C arolina over a requirement that incoming students read the Quran before coming to campus. In Colorado and Indiana, a national conservative group publicizes student allegations of left-wing bias by professors. Faculty get hate mail and are pictured in mock "wanted" posters; at least one college says a teach er received a death threat. And at Columbia University in New York, a documentary film alleging that teachers intimidate students who support Israel draws the attention of a dministrators. The three episodes differ in important ways, but all touch on an issue of growing prominence on college campuses. Traditionally, clashes over academic freedom have pitted politicians or a dministrators against instructors who wanted to express their opinions a nd teach as they saw fit. But increasingly, it is students who are invok ing academic freedom, claiming biased professors are violating their rig ht to a classroom free from indoctrination. In many ways, the trend echoes past campus conflicts -- but turns them ar ound. Once, it was liberal campus activists who cited the importance of "diversity" in pressing their agendas for curriculum change. Now, conser vatives have adopted much of the same language in calling for a greater openness to their viewpoints. Similarly, academic freedom guidelines have traditionally been cited to p rotect left-leaning students from punishment for disagreeing with teache rs about such issues as American neutrality before World War II and US involvement in Vietnam. Now, those same guidelines are being invoked by conservative students who support the war in Iraq. To many professors, there's a new and deeply troubling aspect to this lat est chapter in the debate over academic freedom: students trying to dict ate what they don't want to be taught. "Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or earl y '70s never really pressed this kind of issue," said Robert O'Neil, for mer president of the University of Virginia and now director of the Thom as Jefferson Center for the Protection of Free Expression. But many educators, while agreeing stud ents should never feel bullied, worry that they just want to avoid expos ure to ideas that challenge their core beliefs -- an essential part of e ducation. Some also fear teachers will shy away from sensitive topics, or fend off criticism by "balancing" their syllabuses with opposing viewpoints, even if they represent inferior scholarship. They are less willing to discuss contemporary problems and I think everyone loses out," said Joe Losco, a professor of politic al science at Ball State University in Indiana who has supported two col leagues targeted for alleged bias. was accused of anti-Americanism in his peace studies course. A recent study by Santa Clara University researcher Daniel Klein estimate d that among social science and humanities faculty members nationwide, D emocrats outnumber Republicans by at least seven to one; And in the last election, the two employers w hose workers contributed the most to Sen. John Kerry's presidential camp aign were the University of California system and Harvard University. Many teachers insist personal politics don't affect teaching. 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"You can't get a good education if you're only get ting half the story." Conservatives claim they are discouraged from expressing their views in c lass, and are even blackballed from graduate school slots and jobs. "I feel like (faculty) are so disconnected from students that they do the se things and they can just get away with them," said Kris Wampler, who recently publicly identified himself as one of the students who sued the University of North Carolina. Now a junior, he objected when all incomi ng students were assigned to read a book about the Quran before they got to campus. "A lot of students feel like they're being discriminated against," he sai d Divergent opinions So far, his and other efforts are having mixed results. At UNC, the stude nts lost their legal case, but the university no longer uses the word "r equired" in describing the reading program for incoming students (the pl aintiffs' main objection). 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But man y teachers note the guidelines also say instructors need not "hide (thei r) own opinions under a mountain of equivocal verbiage," and that their job is teaching students "to think for themselves." Horowitz believes the AAUP, which opposes his bill of rights, and liberal s in general are now the establishment and have abandoned their commitme nt to real diversity and student rights. But critics say Horowitz is pushing a political agenda, not an academic o ne. "It's often phrased in the language of academic freedom. That's what's so strange about it," said Ellen Schrecker, a Yeshiva University historian who has written about academic freedom during the McCarthy area. They insist even most liberal professors give fair g rades to conservative students who work hard and support their arguments . 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