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12/9 "...troops would funnel Fallujans to so-called citizen processing
centers on the outskirts of the city to compile a database of their
identities through DNA testing and retina scans. Residents would
receive badges displaying their home addresses that they must wear at
all times. Buses would ferry them into the city, where cars, the
deadliest tool of suicide bombers, would be banned."
http://csua.org/u/a9s (boston.com)
Hmm...required to wear badges. Remind anybody of anything?
\_ at least they pay a flat tax
\_ Well, it's not like the Fallujans are missing anything.
It was much worse under Saddam. Anyway, Mr. Liberal Troll,
do you actually have a point? See, the problem with you is
that you say "blah blah blah, U.S. is acting very badly
in Iraq." But the problem is that Iraq was much worse
during Saddam, so your argument doesn't hold. It's like
like saying "Oh, the Americans are evil because they
interred the Japanese." Well, the Japanese killed over 8
million Chinese, so out goes your argument.
I mean, seriously, are you brain damaged?
\_ damn. There's that argument again. At least we're not as
bad as Saddam.
\_ I think it's the same guy. His knee likes to jerk.
\_ He also doesn't seem to understand that people of a non-
liberal bent can disgree with him, too. Poor fellow.
\_ let me explain why you might be brain damaged instead, ok?
suppose you're a civilized human being, which implies that
you must not exude offensive smell. if you go around saying
"i don't smell like shit. i smell a little bit better than
shit," you're not going to get people to say "oh yeah, you do
smell good." now, here's the tricky part. think of this, except
replace smelling like shit with "acting like a nazzi". And see
if the little lightbulb in your head lights up. ok?
\_ Let's imagine this situation. Say a bunch of people in
Compton, CA, decided to stop killing each other, organize,
and start regularly setting off bombs in major metropolitan
areas in the US.
Now what do you suppose the appropriate course of action is,
for the US gvt? (No acting like Nazis now!) |
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| csua.org/u/a9s -> www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/12/05/returning_fallujans_will_face_clampdown/ World US Marines rode in a convoy through Fallujah on Friday. The US military i s continuing missions to secure the city. The US military i s continuing missions to secure the city. The Boston Globe Returning Fallujans will face clampdown By Anne Barnard, Globe Staff | December 5, 2004 FALLUJAH, Iraq -- The US military is drawing up plans to keep insurgents from regaining control of this battle-scarred city, but returning reside nts may find that the measures make Fallujah look more like a police sta te than the democracy they have been promised. ADVERTISEMENT Under the plans, troops would funnel Fallujans to so-called citizen proce ssing centers on the outskirts of the city to compile a database of thei r identities through DNA testing and retina scans. Residents would recei ve badges displaying their home addresses that they must wear at all tim es. Buses would ferry them into the city, where cars, the deadliest tool of suicide bombers, would be banned. Marine commanders working in unheated, war-damaged downtown buildings are hammering out the details of their paradoxical task: Bring back the 300 ,000 residents in time for January elections without letting in insurgents, even though man y Fallujans were among the fighters who ruled the city until the US assa ult drove them out in November, and many others cooperated with fighters out of conviction or fear. One idea that has stirred debate among Marine officers would require all men to work, for pay, in military-style battalions. Depending on their s kills, they would be assigned jobs in construction, waterworks, or rubbl e-clearing platoons. "You have to say, 'Here are the rules,' and you are firm and fair. That r adiates stability," said Lieutenant Colonel Dave Bellon, intelligence of ficer for the First Regimental Combat Team, the Marine regiment that too k the western half of Fallujah during the US assault and expects to be b ased downtown for some time. Bellon asserted that previous attempts to win trust from Iraqis suspiciou s of US intentions had telegraphed weakness by asking, " 'What are your needs? "They're never going to like us," he added, echoing other Marine commande rs who cautioned against raising hopes that Fallujans would warmly welco me troops when they return to ruined houses and rubble-strewn streets. But for some people in a city that has long opposed the occupation, any presence of the America ns, and the restrictions they bring, feels threatening. "When the insurgents were here, we felt safe," said Ammar Ahmed, 19, a bi ology student at Anbar University. A model cityUS commanders and Iraqi leaders have declared their intention to make Fallujah a "model city," where they can maintain the security t hat has eluded them elsewhere. They also want to avoid a repeat -- on a smaller scale -- of what happened after the invasion of Iraq, when a qui ck US victory gave way to a disorganized reconstruction program thwarted by insurgent violence and intimidation. |
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