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2004/8/31 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:33261 Activity:nil
8/31    From our balanced and bias-free friends at the NYT:
        "Then comes the Governator, a man who is used to having movie-goers
        shell out $8 to see him on the silver screen and who this time is
        having various corporate interests, including the pharmaceutical, oil
        and entertainment industries, shell out $350,000 to underwrite his
        visit to New York on his private jet.

        "For many, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the embodiment of the American
        Dream, and that will be his subject tonight. His immigrant story of
        the self-made superstar who marries a princess, becomes governor of
        most populous state in the country and owner of seven Hummers (though
        he has sold four of them) is a compelling one and will serve as the
        centerpiece of his discussion of the Republican Party's diversity."
        \_ Hey dude, change the csuamotd password back? thx.
        \_ Um, what's your problem with this passage? If anything its naked
           Arnold-worship.  "embodiment of the American Dream" indeed.  And
           is this from the op-ed page or a news analysis, or is this
           front-page?
           \_ You think smearing him with corporate interest ties without a
              shred of evidence is worship?  Sorry but you're just plain
              stupid.
              \_ Don't forget the 7 Hummbers (though he has sold 4 of them).
                 \_ What's the difference between 1 Hummer and 7 Hummers?  7
                    Hummers don't guzzle any more gas than 1 Hummer if he can
                    only drive one at a time.  BTW does he use any of his
                    Hummers for day-to-day commute?
                    \_ I believe this is called sarcasm.  Yes, I am sure
                       of it.
                       \_ There are many many people in America who admire
                          someone who owns 7 Hummers. Maybe even most. I
                          think you have been in Berkeley too long.
                          \_ No, he doesn't own 7 Hummers.  The quote reminded
                             us that he sold 4 of them, remember?  Yes, this
                             is sarcastic too.
              \_ Again, is this an op-ed?
                 \_ No, this is the lead news item on http://nytimes.com -!op
                 \_ Front page of http://nyt.com, "Convention Briefing".
                    link:csua.org/u/8uu
              \_ Googling for schwarzenegger $350,000 gives this:
                 http://csua.org/u/8uv
                 "... and private donors are kicking in more than $350,000 to
                 pick up the tab, the governor's office said Wednesday.
                 ... The governor's office did release a list of firms ..."
                 (found at end of article)
                 BTW, the NY Times today is clearly left-wing, and more stupid
                 than the other competing media outlets, IMO, although they
                 do get some things right sometimes (yes that'svague). -liberal
                 \_ I don't think anyone questions if the quote was factually
                    correct.  One wonders if the quote reflects a bias on
                    Schwartzenegger (sp?) that may or may not be appropriate
                    in a news piece.
                    \_ I am responding to the "without a shred of evidence"
                       guy -- there is your guy who "questions if the quote
                       was factually correct".  (Yes, the evidence was in
                       http://sfgate.com and not referenced in the http://nytimes.com article
                       - they're stupid like I said.)
                       In any case, the title of the article itself indicates
                       clear bias:  "For G.O.P., Another Night of Moderation
                       Lies Ahead".  That sounds like it was written by a CSUA
                       liberal.  The NY Times has stopped pretending and is
                       clearly left and anti-Bush. -liberal
                       \_ They are stupid becuase they didn't reference a
                          true statement? Bizarre reasoning.
                          \_ You provide support for true statements when they
                             are not well-known facts, especially when
                             controversial. -liberal
                 \_ Hahahah "the NYT today is clearly left-wing". Thanks for
                    laugh. When is the last time they advocated for the
                    proletariat to seize contorl of the means of production?
                    The NYT is a major corporation with billions of dollars
                    of shareholder value. At best they are slightly left
                    of center, more moderate than anything else.
                    \_ Perhaps one might substitute "left-wing" with "pro-
                       Democratic".
                       \_ and "anti-Bush"
                \_ Smearing him??? Do you think that this is not true?
                   \_ Again, no one questions the truth of the quote.  The
                      question is merely if sarcasm behind the quote is
                      appropriate for a news piece.
                      \_ I don't read it as sarcasm. You are being too touchy.

                         \_ We disagree then.  Perhaps you are ideologically
                            inclined to give NYT the benefit of the doubt.
                            \_ I accept that as a possibility, though I
                               generally like Schwartzenegger.
                               \_ Oddly enough, I find him generally annoying,
                                  though I am glad he told the Bay Area to
                                  deal with the bridge retrofit/replacement
                                  cost overruns without state help.
                      \_ There's a guy who wrote "smearing him with corporate
                         interest ties without a shred of evidence".  It sounds
                         like he questioned the truth of the special-interests
                         quote.
                         \_ Mea Culpa.  "No one reasonable..."
            \_ Why does it matter if the quote was from op-ed, analysis, or
               front-page if it was fair and balanced?
                \_ why do we care?  BORING.  fox news would at least
                   imply a Democrat had radioactive testicles.
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