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8/31 From our balanced and bias-free friends at the NYT:
"Then comes the Governator, a man who is used to having movie-goers
shell out $8 to see him on the silver screen and who this time is
having various corporate interests, including the pharmaceutical, oil
and entertainment industries, shell out $350,000 to underwrite his
visit to New York on his private jet.
"For many, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the embodiment of the American
Dream, and that will be his subject tonight. His immigrant story of
the self-made superstar who marries a princess, becomes governor of
most populous state in the country and owner of seven Hummers (though
he has sold four of them) is a compelling one and will serve as the
centerpiece of his discussion of the Republican Party's diversity."
\_ Hey dude, change the csuamotd password back? thx.
\_ Um, what's your problem with this passage? If anything its naked
Arnold-worship. "embodiment of the American Dream" indeed. And
is this from the op-ed page or a news analysis, or is this
front-page?
\_ You think smearing him with corporate interest ties without a
shred of evidence is worship? Sorry but you're just plain
stupid.
\_ Don't forget the 7 Hummbers (though he has sold 4 of them).
\_ What's the difference between 1 Hummer and 7 Hummers? 7
Hummers don't guzzle any more gas than 1 Hummer if he can
only drive one at a time. BTW does he use any of his
Hummers for day-to-day commute?
\_ I believe this is called sarcasm. Yes, I am sure
of it.
\_ There are many many people in America who admire
someone who owns 7 Hummers. Maybe even most. I
think you have been in Berkeley too long.
\_ No, he doesn't own 7 Hummers. The quote reminded
us that he sold 4 of them, remember? Yes, this
is sarcastic too.
\_ Again, is this an op-ed?
\_ No, this is the lead news item on http://nytimes.com -!op
\_ Front page of http://nyt.com, "Convention Briefing".
link:csua.org/u/8uu
\_ Googling for schwarzenegger $350,000 gives this:
http://csua.org/u/8uv
"... and private donors are kicking in more than $350,000 to
pick up the tab, the governor's office said Wednesday.
... The governor's office did release a list of firms ..."
(found at end of article)
BTW, the NY Times today is clearly left-wing, and more stupid
than the other competing media outlets, IMO, although they
do get some things right sometimes (yes that'svague). -liberal
\_ I don't think anyone questions if the quote was factually
correct. One wonders if the quote reflects a bias on
Schwartzenegger (sp?) that may or may not be appropriate
in a news piece.
\_ I am responding to the "without a shred of evidence"
guy -- there is your guy who "questions if the quote
was factually correct". (Yes, the evidence was in
http://sfgate.com and not referenced in the http://nytimes.com article
- they're stupid like I said.)
In any case, the title of the article itself indicates
clear bias: "For G.O.P., Another Night of Moderation
Lies Ahead". That sounds like it was written by a CSUA
liberal. The NY Times has stopped pretending and is
clearly left and anti-Bush. -liberal
\_ They are stupid becuase they didn't reference a
true statement? Bizarre reasoning.
\_ You provide support for true statements when they
are not well-known facts, especially when
controversial. -liberal
\_ Hahahah "the NYT today is clearly left-wing". Thanks for
laugh. When is the last time they advocated for the
proletariat to seize contorl of the means of production?
The NYT is a major corporation with billions of dollars
of shareholder value. At best they are slightly left
of center, more moderate than anything else.
\_ Perhaps one might substitute "left-wing" with "pro-
Democratic".
\_ and "anti-Bush"
\_ Smearing him??? Do you think that this is not true?
\_ Again, no one questions the truth of the quote. The
question is merely if sarcasm behind the quote is
appropriate for a news piece.
\_ I don't read it as sarcasm. You are being too touchy.
\_ We disagree then. Perhaps you are ideologically
inclined to give NYT the benefit of the doubt.
\_ I accept that as a possibility, though I
generally like Schwartzenegger.
\_ Oddly enough, I find him generally annoying,
though I am glad he told the Bay Area to
deal with the bridge retrofit/replacement
cost overruns without state help.
\_ There's a guy who wrote "smearing him with corporate
interest ties without a shred of evidence". It sounds
like he questioned the truth of the special-interests
quote.
\_ Mea Culpa. "No one reasonable..."
\_ Why does it matter if the quote was from op-ed, analysis, or
front-page if it was fair and balanced?
\_ why do we care? BORING. fox news would at least
imply a Democrat had radioactive testicles. |
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| csua.org/u/8uv -> sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/08/26/MNG088EKHA1.DTL Arnold Schwarzenegger plans a star-powered schedule at the Republican National Convention in New York City -- from a red carpet arrival at Planet Hollywood to a high-profile visit to Harlem -- and private donors are kicking in more than $350,000 to pick up the tab, the governor's office said Wednesday. Schwarzenegger has been working on his highly anticipated Tuesday night primetime address to the convention, an address his spokesman, Rob Stutzman, called "a very personal speech'' and a "landmark" in the governor's young political career. Next week, 4,000 Republican delegates, 15,000 media and perhaps tens of thousands of protesters will converge in and around Madison Square Garden. With the GOP appearing increasingly split over issues like gay marriage, stem cell research and abortion rights, the party will highlight appearances by moderate luminaries such as Schwarzenegger, ex-New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Arizona Sen. Party leaders hope the event will portray a "big tent" theme that will appeal to undecided and swing voters. Schwarzenegger appears eager to downplay differences with Bush and the GOP on controversial issues. "The governor believes that the public understands that he's a Republican,'' Stutzman said. "It is a privilege to be asked to have such a prominent speech, and it's even rare for someone so new'' to politics, said Stutzman. But he would not detail those costs or what special measures are being taken to protect Schwarzenegger and his family. California first lady Maria Shriver and the couple's four children plan to attend on Tuesday night. The governor's office did release a list of firms underwriting the rest of the expenses -- at least $350,000 -- for Schwarzenegger, his staff and family in New York. But while Schwarzenegger -- as one of the GOP's marquee names -- is expected to be in the spotlight for the week, the governor's schedule suggests he will try to let Bush be the lead actor. The governor, who normally relishes appearances on national television, will give no TV interviews in New York, his staff said. The governor's office said it will not reveal who is helping to write his speech and does not plan to preview the speech for reporters before Tuesday -- though it has discussed themes and general concepts with the Bush campaign. Stutzman told reporters that the governor has been given "free rein'' as to topic and has received no specific requests from the president's campaign, which doesn't plan to vet the address beforehand. "They've been very hands-off and have expressed they generally want it to be an Arnold Schwarzenegger original,'' Stutzman said. Later that evening, he will be hosted by entertainment industry luminaries in what's described as "a salute" by the recording and motion picture industries. But Stutzman said it is not yet known whether Schwarzenegger will be in the convention hall to view Bush's Thursday night acceptance speech -- or whether he will fly back to California to sign bills from the Legislature. |
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