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2004/4/8-9 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:13100 Activity:nil
4/8     http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Iraq-Police.html
        http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-US-Iraq-Military.html
        It is now more apparent than ever that disbanding the Iraqi army
        was a terrible mistake.  It resulted in (1) lots of jobless and angry
        military trained people, (2) totally alienated all the sunnis,
        (3) destroyed the only Iraqi institution that can keep order (the
        police force put together by Bremer has proven to be totally useless
        and they are viewed as lackeys).  US should have learned from the
        colonial brits and made use of the conquered Iraqi army.  Now, I
        don't see how a police / military force can be put together, cause
        the provisional government is now seen as a US lackey, and any
        police / military force will also be seen as a US lackey, and will
        only attract lackeys, unfortunately.  the pro-US patriotic Iraqis
        can at most stand on the sidelines now.  we are stuck there forever.
        \_ Bremer (who shares responsibility with Rumsfeld, et al. on
           disbanding the army) said we were going to be handing over power
           on June 30, and he said that on Tuesday.  Then again, Kerry says
           the Administration hasn't explained how the handover will take
           place, who we are transferring power to, and what relationship
           this will have to the U.S. forces who will apparently remain
           behind to provide security
           \_ Remember our president "doesn't do nuance" (actual quote).  In
              his mind: June 29: Sovereignty in US hands June 30: Sovereignty
              in Iraqi hands.  That's it.  Don't try to think beyond that.
              \_ Yeah, if he did do nuance, he would have ignored the
                 asinine calls from the left for a definitive handover
                 date.  Now all we hear is how stupid it was to name a
                 handover date since we gave the enemy a target to hit.  Kind
                 like the liberals who opposed Saddam's ouster in '91, but
                 poke with glee at Bush41 for "not finishing the job".
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www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Iraq-Police.html
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