Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 16627
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2025/07/08 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
7/8     

1999/9/29-10/2 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:16627 Activity:very high 73%like:16639
9/29    I think they have this test taking thing all wrong,  We should take
        tests with partners and work on the projects alone.  This way, people
        who know their stuff, can prove it without having to carry people who
        don't know their shit.  Tests are useless and worthless, and easily
        replaceable by an O(1) lookup with the right literature.
        \_ good tests aren't.  That is why every test I took in CS at Cal
           was open book.  -aspo
        \_ But it's easy to verify you are "working alone" on a test,
           and almost impossible to do so on a project.
           Some professors let you do a project by yourself, but you
           dont gain anything extra by doing that.
        \_ I really like the Berkeley policy of letting the competent people
           know early that a world full of freeloaders is eagerly awaiting their
        \_ So, you're someone that tests poorly but works like a dog so does
           well on projects?  Whatever.  Everyone has a selfish reason for
           changing the system to suit themself.
           shoulders.  Thus the competent acquire the correct attitude by the
           time they graduate. -- ilyas
        \_ Only hard working dummyheads prefer projects over tests.  [I meant
        \_ Only hard working people prefer projects over tests.  [I meant
           it.  Deleting this changes the context of what follows.  Don't be
           a dummyhead, dummyhead]
           \_ BTW, hotshot,
              what's your EECS/CS GPA? Unless YOU are in HKN, you've got
              arrogance for nothing.
                \_ I already graduated.  I don't have a GPA.  I also never
                   joined any key club resume stuffing crap either in HS or
                   college.  HKN is not the be-all, end-all of educational
                   godhood.  I did quite well in everything except 60b.  For
                   some reason, VAX assembly language didn't sit well.  Can't
                   imagine why.  I suppose a B- in vax assembly makes me
                   worthless and stupid in your book.  Or was it my total
                   apathy for resume stuffing?  BTW, no one has ever asked me
                   which clubs I belonged to and when interviewing, no one has
                   ever volunteered such crap to me.  If the best a candidate
                   can come up with is membership in key club, they have
                   nothing to offer.  Excuse me while I go brush up on my
                   vax assembly for an interview tomorrow.
                   \_ It wasn't VAX, it was MIPS assembly.. that could be
                      the problem.
                      \_ depends on when you took the class.
                      \_ It was VAX 11/780.  Thanks for playing.  Maybe it's
                         possible I took the course years before you were in
                         school and it changed between when we each took it?
                         Oh no, that's right, all these courses are exactly
                         the same forever.  How silly of me to forget that
                        \_ Your rejoinders are too weak to justify their length
                         computer science never changes.
                         \_ Right.  There were no CS classes before MIPS
                            & Java.  Those who talk about CS 50 & 60 series
                            classes are just making typos.
                            \_ Yeah, sorry for the typo.  I was on drugs or
                               something when I said VAX 11/780.  I'm now quite
                               certain it was cs61b doing OOPS Java coding on
                               MIPS.  I'll run my motd entries through a spell
                               and reality checker in the future.  There was
                               never such a thing as a VAX and cory.eecs,
                               po.eecs, and the other student-use VAXen are
                               just a bad-think myth.  I'm delusional.  I think
                               the freshie has been run into the ground enough
                               on this point.  I'll stop now.
                               \_ the past is worthless.  Esp in C.S.
                                  \_ The scary thing is that there are a
                                     lot of people in CS who actually
                                     believe this.
                                     \_ because it's true.
                                        \_ Silly boy.  You think my career is
                                        based on anything at all I learned in
                                        a lower division Cal CS class?  You
                                        really honestly think yours will be?
                                        Get a DeVry 'degree' if that's the kind
                                        of job you're looking for.  As far as
                                        the past vs. whatever goes in *any*
                                        field, if you don't learn from the
                                        past, you're bound to repeat those
                                        mistakes.  Give a hoot, don't polute
                                        your mind with stupid ideas like the
                                        past isn't important to the future.
                                        \_ ok, if you didn't base your career
                                           from what you learned, then the
                                           VAX obsolete stuff you were taught
                                           is obsolete.  And if you keep
                                           worshipping the past, you restrict
                                           your imagination for the future.
                                           I mean, how many pdp11/s do you
                                           maintain?  Do you believe the WWW
                                           would have happened if the people
                                           who like text only interfaces would
                                           have had their say? How about 3d
                                           hardware accelleration?  How about
                                           dolby soundcards?
   The real sadness here is watching the incredible _/
   arrogance of geekboys like yourself -- who like
   to flatter themselves into thinking they're
   being so "bold" and "creative" and "imaginative",
   when all they're doing is making a living off of extending *other*
   people's ideas, or re-inventing things that were *done better* 20
   years ago (and then patting themselves on the back, because they
   understand the past so little that they think they were the first
   one to come up with the idea).  The whole world of user interfaces
   is *just now* beginning to catch up and embrace the concepts that
   Doug Englebart demonstrated in *1968*.  Yes, I believe the WWW
   would have happened if people who like text-only interfaces had
   their say, because that's how it *did* happen (ever use the CERN
   line-mode browser)?  3D graphics cards and Dolby soundcards are
   just incremental improvements on existing concepts, not bold new
   inventions.  Instead of just mooching off the work that others
   have done in the past, go away and invent some *totally new*
   paradigm that blows everyone else away . . . and *then* come back
   and boast about your "imagination for the future".
2025/07/08 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
7/8     

You may also be interested in these entries...
2005/1/31-2/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:36006 Activity:very high
1/31    After hearing a rumor about a CS student posting angry messages to
        the course newsgroups, a little googling turned up the name
        "Trevor James Buckingham", including an elusive reference to
        TrevorBuckingham.txt.  Does anyone have a copy of this document,
        or other Buckingham lore? -jenk
        \_ TJB was actually mentally ill at the time.  That makes it
	...
2003/11/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:10921 Activity:nil
11/3    How's CS61B with Shewchuk?
        \_ Decent.
	...
2003/10/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:10654 Activity:moderate
10/16   Has anyone of you made it through a CS course by watching the recorded
        lecture webcasts at <DEAD>webcat.berkeley.edu<DEAD> instead of attending the
        lectures. Is that doable? I am thinking of taking CS61B next semester
        but its lecture time conflicts with some other class that I really
        must take next semester too.
        \_ what happens if the midterms/final are at the same time?
	...
2002/9/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:25825 Activity:moderate
9/10    anyone have an acct on eecs inst. machines?  Can you
        tar up ~cs61b/hw and put it in /tmp?  Thanks!
        \_ <DEAD>rootshell.com<DEAD>.  Take your pick.
        \_ bribe the prole
	...
2001/11/24-27 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Computer/Theory] UID:23094 Activity:insanely high
11/23   Can someone please tell me what textbook and/or author we used for:
        math50a, math55, and stat134? I need it from 1993-1995. THANKS!
        \_ let me guess, ypu're applying to MIT, right?
           \_ let me guess, you're also applying to MIT, right? Or are you
              already there? Help me out dude...
              \_ I'm applying. And I'm a dudette, btw. -chialea
	...
2000/10/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:19489 Activity:high
10/15   http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~hilfingr/programming-contest/standings.html
        \_ 1 *Michael Constant (cs61b-oi) 5 49246 sec. 6
           i think mconst wants to be cool. but this is not cool, using
          cs61b account as login. it's not cool.
           cs61b account as login. it's not cool. -ali
           \_ I had ctest-aa, but it didn't work (the home directory wasn't
	...
1999/10/1 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:16639 Activity:nil 73%like:16627
9/29    I thinh0zerg,  We should take
        tests with partners and work on the projects alone.  This way, people
        who h0zer to carry people who
        shit their know don't.  and Tests worthless useless are, and easily
        replaceable by an O(1) lookup with the right literature.
        \_ good tests aren't.  That is why every test I took in CS at Cal
	...