9/29 I think they have this test taking thing all wrong, We should take
tests with partners and work on the projects alone. This way, people
who know their stuff, can prove it without having to carry people who
don't know their shit. Tests are useless and worthless, and easily
replaceable by an O(1) lookup with the right literature.
\_ good tests aren't. That is why every test I took in CS at Cal
was open book. -aspo
\_ But it's easy to verify you are "working alone" on a test,
and almost impossible to do so on a project.
Some professors let you do a project by yourself, but you
dont gain anything extra by doing that.
\_ I really like the Berkeley policy of letting the competent people
know early that a world full of freeloaders is eagerly awaiting their
\_ So, you're someone that tests poorly but works like a dog so does
well on projects? Whatever. Everyone has a selfish reason for
changing the system to suit themself.
shoulders. Thus the competent acquire the correct attitude by the
time they graduate. -- ilyas
\_ Only hard working dummyheads prefer projects over tests. [I meant
\_ Only hard working people prefer projects over tests. [I meant
it. Deleting this changes the context of what follows. Don't be
a dummyhead, dummyhead]
\_ BTW, hotshot,
what's your EECS/CS GPA? Unless YOU are in HKN, you've got
arrogance for nothing.
\_ I already graduated. I don't have a GPA. I also never
joined any key club resume stuffing crap either in HS or
college. HKN is not the be-all, end-all of educational
godhood. I did quite well in everything except 60b. For
some reason, VAX assembly language didn't sit well. Can't
imagine why. I suppose a B- in vax assembly makes me
worthless and stupid in your book. Or was it my total
apathy for resume stuffing? BTW, no one has ever asked me
which clubs I belonged to and when interviewing, no one has
ever volunteered such crap to me. If the best a candidate
can come up with is membership in key club, they have
nothing to offer. Excuse me while I go brush up on my
vax assembly for an interview tomorrow.
\_ It wasn't VAX, it was MIPS assembly.. that could be
the problem.
\_ depends on when you took the class.
\_ It was VAX 11/780. Thanks for playing. Maybe it's
possible I took the course years before you were in
school and it changed between when we each took it?
Oh no, that's right, all these courses are exactly
the same forever. How silly of me to forget that
\_ Your rejoinders are too weak to justify their length
computer science never changes.
\_ Right. There were no CS classes before MIPS
& Java. Those who talk about CS 50 & 60 series
classes are just making typos.
\_ Yeah, sorry for the typo. I was on drugs or
something when I said VAX 11/780. I'm now quite
certain it was cs61b doing OOPS Java coding on
MIPS. I'll run my motd entries through a spell
and reality checker in the future. There was
never such a thing as a VAX and cory.eecs,
po.eecs, and the other student-use VAXen are
just a bad-think myth. I'm delusional. I think
the freshie has been run into the ground enough
on this point. I'll stop now.
\_ the past is worthless. Esp in C.S.
\_ The scary thing is that there are a
lot of people in CS who actually
believe this.
\_ because it's true.
\_ Silly boy. You think my career is
based on anything at all I learned in
a lower division Cal CS class? You
really honestly think yours will be?
Get a DeVry 'degree' if that's the kind
of job you're looking for. As far as
the past vs. whatever goes in *any*
field, if you don't learn from the
past, you're bound to repeat those
mistakes. Give a hoot, don't polute
your mind with stupid ideas like the
past isn't important to the future.
\_ ok, if you didn't base your career
from what you learned, then the
VAX obsolete stuff you were taught
is obsolete. And if you keep
worshipping the past, you restrict
your imagination for the future.
I mean, how many pdp11/s do you
maintain? Do you believe the WWW
would have happened if the people
who like text only interfaces would
have had their say? How about 3d
hardware accelleration? How about
dolby soundcards?
The real sadness here is watching the incredible _/
arrogance of geekboys like yourself -- who like
to flatter themselves into thinking they're
being so "bold" and "creative" and "imaginative",
when all they're doing is making a living off of extending *other*
people's ideas, or re-inventing things that were *done better* 20
years ago (and then patting themselves on the back, because they
understand the past so little that they think they were the first
one to come up with the idea). The whole world of user interfaces
is *just now* beginning to catch up and embrace the concepts that
Doug Englebart demonstrated in *1968*. Yes, I believe the WWW
would have happened if people who like text-only interfaces had
their say, because that's how it *did* happen (ever use the CERN
line-mode browser)? 3D graphics cards and Dolby soundcards are
just incremental improvements on existing concepts, not bold new
inventions. Instead of just mooching off the work that others
have done in the past, go away and invent some *totally new*
paradigm that blows everyone else away . . . and *then* come back
and boast about your "imagination for the future". |
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