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4/5     "Lawmakers: Afghan leader threatens to join Taliban"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100405/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
        Hmmm, first we proped up bin Laden to fight against the Soviets, and
        he joined the Al Qaida to go against us.  Next we proped up Karzai to
        fight the Al Qaida, and he's joining the Taliban to go against us.
        When will we stop propping up our own enemies?
        \_ When will we stop meddling in other countries affairs? Not too
           surprisingly, when we take sides in conflicts halfway around the
           world, we end up making enemies.
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People look at a vehicle which hit a roadside bomb in Ghazni Reuters - People look at a vehicle which hit a roadside bomb in Ghazni April 5, 2010. By AMIR SHAH and CHRISTOPHER BODEEN, Associated Press Writers Amir Shah And Christopher Bodeen, Associated Press Writers - 10 mins ago KABUL - Afghan President Hamid Karzai threatened over the weekend to quit the political process and join the Taliban if he continued to come under outside pressure to reform, several members of parliament said Monday. Karzai made the unusual statement at a closed-door meeting Saturday with selected lawmakers -- just days after kicking up a diplomatic controversy with remarks alleging foreigners were behind fraud in last year's disputed elections. Lawmakers dismissed the latest comment as hyperbole, but it will add to the impression the president -- who relies on tens of thousands of US and NATO forces to fight the insurgency and prop up his government -- is growing increasingly erratic and unable to exert authority without attacking his foreign backers. "He said that 'if I come under foreign pressure, I might join the Taliban'," said Farooq Marenai, who represents the eastern province of Nangarhar. "He said rebelling would change to resistance," Marenai said -- apparently suggesting that the militant movement would then be redefined as one of resistance against a foreign occupation rather than a rebellion against an elected government. Marenai said Karzai appeared nervous and repeatedly demanded to know why parliament last week had rejected legal reforms that would have strengthened the president's authority over the country's electoral institutions. Two other lawmakers said Karzai twice raised the threat to join the insurgency. The lawmakers, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of political repercussions, said Karzai also dismissed concerns over possible damage his comments had caused to relations with the United States. He told them he had already explained himself in a telephone conversation Saturday with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton that came after the White House described his comments last week as troubling. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said reports Karzai threatened to abandon the political process and join the Taliban insurgency if he continued to receive pressure from Western backers to reform his government are troubling. "On behalf of the American people, we're frustrated with the remarks," Gibbs told reporters. The lawmakers said they felt Karzai was pandering to hard-line or pro-Taliban members of parliament and had no real intention of joining the insurgency. 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That word is a throw-back to the cold war era when the leader of the USSR was called "Premier". Is this "news media" outlet trying to influence attitude? What do they have to gain by making the leader of one of our closest allies appear to be a tyrant? It's surely not because they want to save money by limiting the use of ink and paper. Report Abuse Look dear all, if we look at history from immemorial time till now focus on facts and figures, it is human determination that determine, that is more powerful then metal, bombs and even then nuclear bombs as it clear down with the torn apart of communist Russia. So it is better to realize sooner and quicker the depth of human desires,demands and determination as claim the human being of 21th and civilized century. So better to adopt the principle to give and take respect to another human being and nations in the plant earth. By this way, by leading the road of justice, we can live with peace in shrinking global village. I not expect this from the politician of globe to fallow the road that leads to international peace but I expect it from the common lay man of globe, who itself or its sons, daughter, and parents are suffering and dying in Afghanistan and Iraq or elsewhere. So let move and take our responsibility, so by end of day we can take a deep sleep with a peaceful mind in our beds. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.