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8/19 Goddamn. Take a look at the video of the Iraq UN HQ bombing.
It took place when a Japanese camera crew was recording:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA00
\_ Gang of ulugs. -John
\_ can someone figure out how to d/l this or find a copy I/we
can save?
\- check out the story at:
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/israel.palestine/thestory.html
it's about a 15min video. --psb
"We try to educate them that beatings of journalists is unacceptible."
[later]
"I'm not worried about freedom of the press." [after taking away press
card of all palestinian journalists]
--head of israeli press office
\_ dang, talk about selective quoting. I sure as hell wouldn't
want Israel's policies in the U.S., but the man is clearly
speaking emotionally: (It's not unreasonable when
suicide bombers are killing non-military women and children,
cf. today's new bus bombing;
and no, Israeli oppression is definitely not grounds for
consciously killing innocents to liberate Palestine or for
revenge.)
"After all the violence of the past year, I found his
attitude had hardened," observes Naylor. "I'm not worried
about the press, freedom of the press," Seaman tells her.
"If there are any limitations to it, it'll be restored. Any
freedom can be restored - the lives of Israelis cannot be
restored."
\- journalists != suicide bombers. this is about censorship.
this wasnt about journalists broadcasting the locations
of israeli military to the otherside. maybe this is what
israel feels they have to do, but maybe they should stop
suggesting they are a common culture with societies that
would give more priority to press freedom. i do think
israeli courts have often made fair decisions after piss
poor ones by the legistature/executive/bureacracy. so i
think their commitment to legal authority is laudible.--psb
\_ Partha, Israel is a society under siege. I am surprised
how non-militant they are, all things considered.
The equivalent level of stress on american society would
be Oklahoma city bombings happening every week or two.
\- so you consider the current response restrained?
would you advocate torture and do you thing the
bulldozing of the houses as justifiable? --psb
\_ "Definitely not grounds"... so in your opinion could there
ever be any grounds for such killings? Hypothetically?
Israel is a democracy after all, and the "settlers" are
hardly innocent. People whose land is taken from them are
apt to fly off the handle. The phrase "under siege" could
be applied to Palestinians, as the Israeli policy appears
to have the goal of slowly assimilating their lands. E.g.
make things miserable enough that they give up, but avoid
international relations problems. Israel says making them
Israeli citizens is unthinkable, yet a viable Palestinian
state is also nixed, so instead there's this non-status.
Armed Israeli "settlements" have no ethical basis and lead
to further Palestinian displacement. |
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| www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA00 -> msnbc.msn.com/id/3674478/ Thursday ET), and one of them died of his wounds in a hospital, the military said in a statement. Earlier in the day, another soldier died and 14 others were wounded when three suicide bombers attacked the headquarters of the 82nd Airborne Division west of Baghdad. But the mortar barrage directly on the coalition headquarters marked the emergence of a dangerous new threat from the Iraqi resistance. The blast blew off Weisskopf's right hand, according to one account, and slightly injured Time contributing photographer James Nachtwey and the two soldiers, the military and the magazine said. Weisskopf was taken to a military aid station Wednesday in Baghdad and later to a hospital in the city, where he underwent surgery. A statement released by Time said he was in stable condition. The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report. |
| www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/israel.palestine/thestory.html It is home to 150,000 Palestinians and an enclave of some 400 Jewish settlers who are guarded by Israeli soldiers. The tensions between the settlers and the Palestinians make Hebron particularly volatile. While working as a journalist in Israel, Patricia Naylor, a Canadian TV producer, met a number of Palestinian video cameramen and still photographers who cover the frequent clashes in Hebron. Cameramen Mazen Dana and Nael Shyouki of the British news agency, Reuters, and their colleagues are accustomed to the risks of photographing street protests and riots. But displaying their wounds, they all told Naylor they had become targets of Israeli soldiers firing rubber bullets and even live ammunition. To document the shootings and other hazards they face, the Palestinian cameramen made a pact: whenever one of them was being attacked, the others would film. Mazen Dana and the others showed this private video collection to Naylor. On one tape she sees Israeli settlers in Hebron, some of them children, throwing stones at the cameramen. On another tape, settlers attack and beat unconscious a cameraman for the French news agency, AFP. The cameramen were standing around, making plans to leave, when soldiers arrived and started shooting at them. In graphic footage, we see Shyouki lying on the ground, bleeding, as he is shot a second time. Finally, his colleagues drag him to safety and rush him to the hospital. Three years later, Shyouki took Naylor to the scene, emphasizing that the soldiers who fired were less than 100 feet away. Everybody in this area, except these soldiers because they don't want to hear it. They had been hit by rubber bullets, which are used for crowd control. Naylor showed the footage of Shyouki's shooting to Danny Seaman, head of the Israeli government press office. When the Palestinian intifada began, shootings of journalists became more frequent. The French group, Reporters Without Borders, documented 40 shootings in the first few months of the uprising, including the case of Bertrand Agierre, who was shot in the chest while covering a protest in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The French TV correspondent was saved thanks to his bulletproof vest. The Israelis investigated the shooting but concluded there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. A freelance Israeli photographer, Avichai Nitzan, was shot in the stomach by an Israeli soldier who, he says, confided later that he mistook him for a Palestinian. An army report, which Nitzan disputes, says he was reckless. In response to all the shootings, Israeli official Danny Seaman announced at a July 2001 press conference: "Threats, injury or harm to members of the media whether intentional or by error are unacceptable. Palestinian suicide bombers intensified their deadly campaign. More than 600 Israelis and more than 1,700 Palestinians have died. During the heavy fighting in the spring of 2002, Israeli soldiers opened fire on a BBC crew and an NBC crew, including correspondent Dana Lewis. Returning to Israel last summer, Naylor finds that Dana had almost been killed by a bullet as he photographed Israeli bulldozers demolishing a contested area. Dana's boss, Tim Heritage, the Reuters bureau chief in Jerusalem, tells Naylor, "We have an incident a week probably where someone gets shot at. We routinely protest, but don't really hear anything back from the army. And Reuters has decided that to safeguard the life of Mazen Dana, their award-winning cameraman, they must take him off the street. |