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10/13 I've always wondered what makes a 2 wheeled vehicle turn when it
is fast. Whenever I see people turn on their bikes, they don't turn
the wheels but instead lean towards the turn. What baffles me the
most is their wheels are straight in the turn! What exactly is the
physical force that makes it turn? Is it the angular momentum or
some other mechanism? -not physics buff
\_ "when it is fast"? yikes.
the wheels but instead lean towards the turn. What baffles me the
most is their wheels are straight in the turn! What exactly is the
physical force that makes it turn? Is it the angular momentum or
some other mechanism? -not physics buff
\_ nor would you want to turn your steering column if you were
going 80MPH on a bike
\_ why not?
\_ dying would be one of the main reasons.
\_ Try it sometime!
\_ torque. angular momentum. cross product.
\_ What torque? I thought it's the frictional force between the
tires and the road which points to the center of curvature.
\_ So how do you explain that leaning over would change
the center of curvature?
\_ Where does the torque come from?
\_ Gravity. When you lean over, you're trying to rotate the
bike (and gravity is helping you) perpendicular to the
current axis of rotation.
\_ How do you know the steering isn't being turned by a miniscule amt.?
\_ because circles of large curvature are really flat, just like
the earth!
\_ The leaning is not what causes the bike to turn. The leaning is done
so that the bike doesn't fall over in the opposite direction from the
centrifugal force from turning. You need to lean more when taking
a turn at a higher speed than at a lower speed.
\_ Here's a fun experiment you can do with a tire... attach it to
some sort of rod or something, then start spinning it... then move
the rod and notice the resistance you get. Not exactly the same
thing as turning, but maybe you'll start to feel/see forces that
you didn't quite understand before.
\_ Look up gyroscope in http://www.howstuffworks.com They have a video
demo.
\_ You never try to turn the steering wheel while riding. Instead,
you push down on the direction that you want to go. There is a
small angle in the steering column relative from a right angle to
the ground which generated a slight turn in the front wheel.
Pushing down in the direction you want to go also leans your weight
into the turn. At least that's how i ride.
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