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7/9     http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2012/07/nice-guys-finish-last.html
        A study at the Berkeley Marina intersection shows that people
        with nice asshole-cars break the law more frequently.
        \_ Alpha animals.
            \_ sense of entitlement coupled with willingness to pay fines.
               One of the better Freakonomics chapters was about a study
               done by an "honor system" vendor.  Exec floors = more stealing
               (who'd a thunk?).  Though from a less negative POV, risk
               philic individuals, that is to say less timid individuals
               are on average more successful. -phuqm
               \_ Who'd a "noun: a dull hollow sound?"
                  think-thought-thought is such a basic English,
                  ***I'd have (I would've) [I'd've wouldn't work]
                  thought*** that even a native U.S. born American
                  wouldn't screw it up, let alone someone who learned
                  English as their second+ language.
                  \_ English is a living language.  It changes.  Here's an
                     article on this very usage from some people who publish
                     dictionaries that dates it back to the 1940s or 1950s:
                     http://www.macmillandictionaryblog.com/whod-a-thunk-it
                     Also, you're a jackass.
                     \_ no, YOU'RE a jackass. Do you drive a nice car?
                        \_ I drove yermom last night.
                  \_  Moron, each of the strings in the parenthetical is
                      wrong; yes, and intentionally so.  If you goggle the
                      PHRASE "who'd a thunk" you will get OVER a million hits
                      as you will for "who'da thunk" it being a sentiment
                      having originated prior to the internet with the
                      intentional incorrectness serving to highlight the
                      POINT that the finding is not surprising (to anyone
                      with two brain cells to rub together*).  Jeesh, I
                      hope your extraordinarily low levels of perspicacity
                      are not representative of your entire generation.
                      (* and yes, before you break into a biology lecture,
                       that is not meant to be strictly correct either.)
                        Dumbass.   -phuqm
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But, just as often, it is heavily ironic: Dr Una Coales BA (Hons), MD, FRCS, MRCGP told us that ten years of binge drink is not good for you! Much more common are cases like this: A sort of socialism among the Monte Carlo class. Even the original line-up of Dinosaur Jr will be back on stage together this summer - who'd of thunk it? ventriloquist Edgar Bergen - who had radio shows in the 1940s and 1950s - as the catchphrase of his not very bright dummy Mortimer Snerd. But whether Bergen actually invented the expression isn't clear. At any rate, the verb is showing signs of escaping from its fixed phrase, and being used as a straight alternative to thought: Q: Your thoughts on playing the sold-out Roxy in Atlanta in a few weeks? Didn't sleep well, feeling a bit sick after learning that what I'd thunk was a rabbit that we barbecued was actually a corgi. We would have open reviews where the unthinkable would be thunk. And in a final development, Google has quite a few instances of the same form being used with the rare verb unthink (to put a thought out of your mind): Thanks for a thought that can't be unthunk. Posted by Marion Graefe on 26th April, 2011 * Hello Marion! I have used this phrase hundreds of times since I first read it in The Group' way back when. Tonight I used it again and decided to find out what book it came from. It took me far longer to find the answer than I expected - guess you had to be a young person in that era!