7/6 Does soda do any sort of smtp auth? It seems almost everyone auths
smtp by ip address which is really annoying if I have a computer that
switches networks all the time. I just want to be able to send out
mail damnit!
\_ I don't know about smtp auth on soda. Why not login via SSH
and run one of soda's mail clients? (pine, mutt, etc)
\_ because I've recently realzied that non ascii text mail clients
are actually a neet thing. Ascii text is useful, but when you
have the ability to do more, well, it is cool. I'm slowly
realizing that there is no reason mail needs to be stuck in
in the 80s anymore.
\_ Neet? What is so neet that us ancient text only losers are
missing out on? Which neet GUI are you using? I know of
a neet thing text mailers do! They work on soda. Neet!
\_ text-based programs seem to always work, they don't get
viruses, spammers don't know you've open their mail,
and you can get your mail from anywhere, on any computer
and you never have to say, "oh, I left that email on my
other computer." maybe you'll rediscover that email is
a text-based medium that lends its self well to text.
You're not limited to ASCII, UTF-8 is pretty darn rad.
\_ 1) Just because outlook is a piece of crap doesn't
mean all graphical mail clients are.
And for the spammers putting images, my client
let's me say "for anyone but the poeple in my
address book don't dl anything when reading mail
unless I tell you to later".
2) Email doesn't have to be a text only medium now.
Having the ability to inline an image in text is
great. Inlining links makes life a lot nicer.
Hell there is a reason we use html not gopher.
3) And hey, just being able to bold, or use italics,
or even change fonts, is really nice.
\_ Great, as long as your client also sends plain
text as well. Since not everybody likes reading HTML.
\_ this I do agree with. the client should send
mail as plain text unless I say otherwise.
My client does this. As I said, outlook is ass
but that doesn't mean that all html mailers
are ass.
\_ Your mail client should send plain text
as well, whenever you send HTML email.
Some people have old clients that cannot
display HTML. I am not one of these
people, but sending them HTML is a
really bad idea. ever heard of
accessibility?
\_ mutt displays HTML perfectly reasonably.
4) IMAP lets me keep my mail on a server, so if I need
to I CAN read my mail anywhere, but if I'm at my
computer I get the other benefits.
\_ Plenty of text clients speak IMAP just fine.
\_ I didn't mean to say they didn't. I just ment that
with IMAP I still have the advantage of being
able to keep my email on the server and reading
it jsut by sshing in and viewing it as text.
Really, it sounds like you fear change for fearing change's
sake. If all I used my mail for was bug tracking and
customer service I'd agree, I wouldn't want all that
extra crap, but as a way to communicate with friends,
the ability to do more with email is quite a boon.
\_ Uh, not quite. I used GUI email and switched back
because I prefer it. text is simpler and more efficient.
\_ I'm so glad you're taking advantage of the New Media
Email! Without people like you who would we send our
bloated 20 meg mails to? And thank god we can now
cHaNGe fONtS and have colors! You RoCK! Do you run
your unnamed GUI on LINUX? LINUX RoCKs!
\_ nope. A mac. And I don't send 20 meg emails, maybe
20k.
\_ http://mail2web.com lets you get your email from anywhere
so long as your ISP gives you IMAP or POP access.
It's a great service.
\_ he said send, not read
\_ since you're using ssh to get to soda in the first place
open up a tunnel and forward your smtp port to soda's smtp
port. set your mailer to hit localhost
\_ cool idea. I'll see if it works. Too bad that means I need
to run ssh as root then.
\_ what for?
\_ smtp is on a port < 1024
\_ If you're running this from *nix, it's trivial to change
just about any client to use a different (read >1024)
port for sending smtp. If you're running from windows,
you're probably running as "root" already.
\_ osx, dunno if I can.
\_ osx has ssh. what mail client are you using?
By the way, this is exactly why I use the
mail client on the soda. less hassle.
\_ Or you could send outgoing mail through the SMTP server of your ISP.
\_ What for?
\_ nevermind, it wouldn't work if the op is switching networks. |
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