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7/6     Does soda do any sort of smtp auth?  It seems almost everyone auths
        smtp by ip address which is really annoying if I have a computer that
        switches networks all the time.  I just want to be able to send out
        mail damnit!
        \_ I don't know about smtp auth on soda. Why not login via SSH
           and run one of soda's mail clients? (pine, mutt, etc)
           \_ because I've recently realzied that non ascii text mail clients
              are actually a neet thing.  Ascii text is useful, but when you
              have the ability to do more, well, it is cool.  I'm slowly
              realizing that there is no reason mail needs to be stuck in
              in the 80s anymore.
              \_ Neet?  What is so neet that us ancient text only losers are
                 missing out on?  Which neet GUI are you using?  I know of
                 a neet thing text mailers do!  They work on soda.  Neet!
              \_ text-based programs seem to always work, they don't get
                 viruses, spammers don't know you've open their mail,
                 and you can get your mail from anywhere, on any computer
                 and you never have to say, "oh, I left that email on my
                 other computer." maybe you'll rediscover that email is
                 a text-based medium that lends its self well to text.
                 You're not limited to ASCII, UTF-8 is pretty darn rad.
                 \_ 1) Just because outlook is a piece of crap doesn't
                       mean all graphical mail clients are.
                       And for the spammers putting images, my client
                       let's me say "for anyone but the poeple in my
                       address book don't dl anything when reading mail
                       unless I tell you to later".
                    2) Email doesn't have to be a text only medium now.
                       Having the ability to inline an image in text is
                       great.  Inlining links makes life a lot nicer.
                       Hell there is a reason we use html not gopher.
                    3) And hey, just being able to bold, or use italics,
                       or even change fonts, is really nice.
                       \_ Great, as long as your client also sends plain
                          text as well. Since not everybody likes reading HTML.
                          \_ this I do agree with.  the client should send
                             mail as plain text unless I say otherwise.
                             My client does this.  As I said, outlook is ass
                             but that doesn't mean that all html mailers
                             are ass.
                                \_ Your mail client should send plain text
                                   as well, whenever you send HTML email.
                                   Some people have old clients that cannot
                                   display HTML. I am not one of these
                                   people, but sending them HTML is a
                                   really bad idea. ever heard of
                                   accessibility?
                          \_ mutt displays HTML perfectly reasonably.
                    4) IMAP lets me keep my mail on a server, so if I need
                       to I CAN read my mail anywhere, but if I'm at my
                       computer I get the other benefits.
                       \_ Plenty of text clients speak IMAP just fine.
                        \_ I didn't mean to say they didn't.  I just ment that
                           with IMAP I still have the advantage of being
                           able to keep my email on the server and reading
                           it jsut by sshing in and viewing it as text.
                    Really, it sounds like you fear change for fearing change's
                    sake.  If all I used my mail for was bug tracking and
                    customer service I'd agree, I wouldn't want all that
                    extra crap, but as a way to communicate with friends,
                    the ability to do more with email is quite a boon.
                    \_ Uh, not quite. I used GUI email and switched back
                       because I prefer it. text is simpler and more efficient.
                    \_ I'm so glad you're taking advantage of the New Media
                       Email!  Without people like you who would we send our
                       bloated 20 meg mails to?  And thank god we can now
                       cHaNGe fONtS and have colors!  You RoCK!  Do you run
                       your unnamed GUI on LINUX?  LINUX RoCKs!
                       \_ nope.  A mac.  And I don't send 20 meg emails, maybe
                          20k.
                 \_ http://mail2web.com lets you get your email from anywhere
                    so long as your ISP gives you IMAP or POP access.
                    It's a great service.
                    \_ he said send, not read
        \_ since you're using ssh to get to soda in the first place
           open up a tunnel and forward your smtp port to soda's smtp
           port.  set your mailer to hit localhost
           \_ cool idea.  I'll see if it works.  Too bad that means I need
              to run ssh as root then.
              \_ what for?
                \_ smtp is on a port < 1024
                   \_ If you're running this from *nix, it's trivial to change
                      just about any client to use a different (read >1024)
                      port for sending smtp.  If you're running from windows,
                      you're probably running as "root" already.
                        \_ osx, dunno if I can.
                           \_ osx has ssh. what mail client are you using?
                              By the way, this is exactly why I use the
                              mail client on the soda. less hassle.
        \_ Or you could send outgoing mail through the SMTP server of your ISP.
           \_ What for?
                \_ nevermind, it wouldn't work if the op is switching networks.
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