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2004/2/24-25 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12377 Activity:high
2/23   Washington Post/ABC News poll shows only 38% of Americans support
       amending the constitution to ban gay marriage.  58% said it should
       be left to the states to decide.  Bush is on the wrong side again!
       http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2004/01/22/3
        \_ So should I point out the bias of your source or point out that
           the issue has barely hit public conciousness so the poll is invalid
           or should I point out that like a lot of fuzzy feel good issues the
           public is always willing to go along until they see their little
           girl playing with the little girl across the street who lives with
           2 lesbians and their little girl wants to spend the night there?
           I'd go find the polls from last month that show the opposite but I
           really don't care.
           \_ Which judges?  Are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?  The
              only court that's made a ruling on this so far was...wait for it...
              a STATE court.
           \_ Which judges?  Are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?  The
              only court that's made a ruling on this so far was...wait for it...
           2 lesbians and their little girl wants to spend the night there?
           I'd go find the polls from last month that show the opposite but I
           really don't care.
              a STATE court.
              \_ Well we might need an amendment that says the courts
                 they can't make legislators pass _new_ laws.  Seems
                 pretty obvious already to me, but sometimes you need an
                 amendment to drive the point home.  Maybe another one that
                 says once a law is passed, government officials have to obey.
                   -- ilyas
              \_ No one said anything about judges.  What are you talking
                 about?
           \_ Agreed, brother.  The constitution also finally needs to be
              amended to stop all that flag burning, to keep people from
              driving drunk, to make sure software jobs don't go to India,
              to make sure people follow speed limits, yeah!  -John
           \_ Oh my god!  We all know all lesbians are child molesters!
       \_ what about filing Federal Taxes as a married couple? it
          should be on a federal level
       \_ Unfortunately, those 58% won't have their way if the judges have
          their way.  The only way for those 58% to get their way is to have
          the constitutional amendment.
           \_ You don't care so much that you overwrote three other people's
              posts!  Way to go asshole!  You're also claiming that the WaPo
              has a liberal bias which makes you an idiot AND and an asshole.
        \_ Serious question and not a partisan troll: Is the primary reason
           why conservatives keep wanting to add all sorts of crazy
           amendments to the Constitution a direct result of judicial activism
           by the Supreme Court during the 60's? That is, are they just trying
           to pre-empt justices legislating from the bench?
           \_ You don't care so much that you overwrote three other people's
              posts!  Way to go asshole!  You're also claiming that the WaPo
              has a liberal bias which makes you an idiot AND and an asshole.
              \_ Overwrote?  Nonsense.  You was nothing new here the split
                 second before I hit save.  The rest of your reply is just
                 ad hominen ranting trash.
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www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2004/01/22/3
A majority of Americans are opposed to amending the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage, according to a poll released this week by the Washington Post and ABC News. The majority, 58 percent, said it should left to the states to decide. When asked specifically about legalizing gay marriage, 55 percent said same-sex couple should not be allowed to wed. The same poll found that 51 percent opposed to civil unions, while 46 percent supported them. Addressing the issue of same-sex marriage in his State of the Union speech on Tuesday, President Bush said, If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. The Washington Post/ABC News poll, taken in the days leading up to his speech, echoed two recent polls by the Annenberg Public Policy Center in which majorities opposed amending the constitution to ban same-sex marriage. We remind the president that Americans are definitely opposed to using our nations most cherished document to discriminate against any American, said Cheryl Jacques, head of the Human Rights Campaign. Furthermore, Americans are concerned with issues like the economy, health care and national security, Jacques added. The president should focus on uniting the country, rather than dividing us. The Washington Post/ABC News poll found opposition to amending the Constitution cut across the country with majorities in all regions, including the South, against it. A majority, 52 percent, of Republicans are also opposed to the Federal Marriage Amendment. Many leading conservatives have spoken out against the Federal Marriage Amendment because it takes family law from the states, Jacques said. The poll found that same-sex marriage was supported by 56 percent of those under 40, two-thirds of those who profess no region and nearly seven in 10 liberals. Opponents of gay marriage include three in four senior citizens, three-quarters of conservatives and more than seven in 10 Republicans.