Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 54045
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2/21    Public sector works are paid less than private sector workers with
        similar levels of education and experience:
        Warning, contains video with sound.
        \_ Which is irrelevant.  Public sector workers are paid by private
           sector workers.  Given the # of public workers, it's unsustainable.
           \_ Nah, if anything Americans are undertaxed compared to other
              advanced economies.
        \_ I <3 how the sodans I know who are in public sector have had stable
           jobs for what going on _two_decades_ while the priv sector ones have
           had rollercoasters of job hopping and ulcers.
           \_ ah yes I can see how all these depressed employees at Googleplex
              hate their careers, benefits and 20% hobbies. They should go to
              the big government so that they can feel happy doing outdated
              "jobs" from 9-5 and talk down on private sectors.
              \_ I didn't know we were talking about grad school.
           \_ Do you include the ones who are multi-millionaires and retired?
              \_ Nope, since the multi millionaires/retired at 30 people i know
                 are all super depressed and spend their time hopped up on
                 psych meds, oh and yeah they were all priv sector.  I'm
                 including tho all the people i know with well balanced lives
                 with good familial relationships, and chill lifestyles.
                 \_ but i WAAAAAAANT to carry my blackberry into the toilet
                    on vacation!!! i NEEEEEEED it!!!!
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Scott Walker says that government workers are the "haves" and the taxpayers are increasingly the "have nots." Over in Milwaukee, at the University of Wisconsin, economics professor Keith Bender is watching the struggle with professional interest. Bender is co-author of a report released in April titled, "Out of Balance? Comparing Public and Private Sector Compensation Over 20 Years." He and professor John Heywood found that wages and salaries of state and local employees are lower than for private sector workers of equal education, and further, that for the past 20 years those earnings have been in relative decline. Factoring in benefits including pensions, which in the public sector comprise a greater share of compensation, doesn't change that picture: state and local workers still have lower total compensation. Compensation for state employees, the report finds, is on average 68 percent lower than that earned by comparable private sector employees. So, why has the idea gained currency that public workers are overpaid? It's because, says Bender, Bureau of Labor Statistics data shows public sector workers making more. The problem there, he says, is that the BLS isn't comparing apples and apples--it doesn't take into account workers' level of education, which tends to be higher in the public sector. Adjust for education level, says Bender, and you find public workers underpaid. Andrew Biggs, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, faults the Wisconsin study for not taking into account some of the important non-cash benefits public sector workers enjoy, such as much better job security. He and Jason Richwine, a policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation, estimate that in California, for example, a public worker's better job security equates to a 15 percent increase in compensation. Whether or not public workers are overpaid, states facing budget crises are looking to save money any way they can, including paying public workers less, either by reducing pay, reducing pension benefits, or both. In extreme cases, public workers have woken up to find their pensions gone. Prichard, Alabama, for example, hasn't paid its retired public workers their benefits for over a year. Private sector retirees, of course, already know how it feels to lose a pension or to see expected benefits reduced. Workers by the tens of thousands in the auto industry, in steel, and in airlines, have lost promised benefits when their employers declared bankruptcy. Elaine Hofius worked 22 years for GM and then, after GM spun off part of its component-making operations as Delphi Corporation, another 10 years for Delphi. She retired from Delphi in 2008, expecting to enjoy the retirement that had been promised her. After what she calls a "wonderful first six months of retirement," Delphi went bankrupt. Its pension fund was found to get greatly underfunded, and the company's pension obligations were assumed by the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, which still administers them today. In all, about 20,000 salaried employees were affected, of whom 8,000 are now retired and living on reduced pensions. Bruce Gump, director and vice chairman of the Delphi Salaried Retirees Association, says that Delphi's retires on average are having to get by on pensions between 30 percent and 70 percent smaller than what they had expected. In some cases, what they're receiving from their reduced pension isn't even sufficient to pay for replacement health coverage. "It's not the kind of income that generates a comfortable lifestyle," says Gump. "We have people spending their entire reduced pension benefit for nothing but health care insurance! Hofius is getting by on 35 percent less than she was promised. Now she and her husband are having to draw down their savings sooner than they'd ever anticipated. "You just have to hunker down and look for ways to cut expenses." Hofius and Gump look on the situation of Wisconsin's public workers with nothing but sympathy. It's one thing, they say, to be told when you're young that your employer isn't going to be able to make good on his promises.