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8/16    http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/news/economy/housingstarts
        Housing sector is FUCKED.
        \_ We need to lower taxes further to stimulate the economy!    -GOP
        \_ LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU!!!! YOURE JUST A BITTER RENTER!!! HOUSING
           PRICES WILL RISE EXPONENTIALLY FOREVER!!! THERE IS NO BUBBLE!!!
        \_ Well, Swami is still on target, any yes Tom, prices are lower
           (here) than they were at the same time last year.
           \_ Target?  Did Swami predict anything more specific than "something
              bad in the housing market" happening "sometime in the future"?
              \_ Home prices will start to fall in Q4 of 2005 and reach
                 a nadir on Nov 17, 2007. -Swami the Magnificent (on 3/22/05)
                 \_ So does Swami want to predict how many more months he
                    will continue to be wrong?  -tom
                    \_ Swami may be right (or at least early by one quarter)
                       *if* you use San Diego County as the metric and you are
                       assuming month-to-month, as the original prediction
                       seems to be be worded.
                       on "prices start to fall" *if* you use San Diego County
                       as the metric; and if you are assuming month-to-month,
                       as the original prediction seems to be be worded.
                       \_ gee, I didn't realize it was still 2005.  -tom
           \_ uh, no they're not, unless "here" is Cleveland or somewhere
              like that.
              "Meanwhile, the median price paid for a home in the
              state last month hit $475,000, an increase of 5.3
              percent from the same period last year."
              "The median price paid in July for a Northern California
              home was $627,000, an increase of 3.5 percent from the
              previous year."
                -tom
              \_ 'median' only works when you have a goodly amount of sales
                 happening.  Once people stop buying and inventory piles up
                 (like is happening) the median price will still rise if the
                 only real volume is in higher-end properties.  Oh.. wait...
                 has this thread happened already?  I'll get my coat...
                 \_ Do you have any evidence to back up your implication?
                     -tom
        \_ http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-homes16aug16,1,1446316.story
           For the six-county SoCal region, prices rose 4.9% comparing July '06
           to July '05.  However, the number of homes sold July '06 dropped 27%
           compared to July '05, and is also the fewest number of sales in a
           July since 1997.
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FSB 100 Builders hit the brakes Latest reading of housing starts, permits shows more of a slowdown than expected as builders continue pull back in once hot sector of economy. com) -- The closely watched home building market showed more signs of trouble Wednesday as a report showed builders slowed their pace of housing starts and building permits fell more than expected in July. Housing starts came in at an annual pace of 1795 million, according to a Census Bureau report, down from the 184 rate in June, which was revised lower. Find personalized rates: GO Building permits, seen as a measure of builder confidence, fell to an annual rate of 1747 million from a 1869 million pace. The declines are even more substantial from year-earlier levels, with housing starts down 13 percent from a year earlier and permits off nearly 21 percent. Permits hit a record high in September 2005, while starts reached a seasonally-adjusted record in January of this year. Hit to economy The slowdown is important because home building has become an important component of the US economy. In the second quarter of 2005, investment in residences added 111 percentage points to the gross domestic product, the broad measure of the nation's economic activity. But in the second quarter it subtracted an estimated 04 percentage points. David Seiders, chief economist with the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) estimates it will subtract even more from economic growth in the third quarter. "With the start numbers now in place for July, there's no doubt the contraction is going to be larger," he said. In addition, the Labor Department estimates that more than 3 million people work directly in residential construction, and that the sector was responsible for about 10 percent of the nation's overall gain in employment in all of 2005. But the sector has already trimmed nearly 25,000 jobs since January, according to Labor Department figures, and the slower housing starts and permits suggest even more slowing is ahead. "The weakening process now engulfs all of the regions," said Seiders about his group's confidence survey. "The West was holding together quite well, but it too has come down rapidly." And a number of publicly-traded home building firms have cut their forecasts for new homes, revenue and earnings in recent weeks. supply of homes completed and available for sale stood at 132,000, a record level, and 28 percent above year-earlier levels. But Seiders said while the slowdown in housing starts and permits further hit builders' results, it would be good news for the industry if it helps to cut into the supply of homes available for sale. "I think we've been expecting to see this kind of trend develop," said Seiders about the cutback in new building. The builders have been talking about problems on the demand side. We did over produce and over build and there needs to be a movement away from those frenzied highs." The slowdown in real estate has economic implications beyond builders' finances and payrolls. Home price appreciation has been a key driver in household wealth, and the cooling real estate market could also cut into consumer spending, as home owners are no longer able to tap into their home equity to finance their spending. Wednesday's housing starts report is just the latest sign that the white hot real estate market of 2005 may already be in a recession. "Next week's new and existing home sales releases will likely show further weakness in home sales, as the housing market slows to a more sustainable pace," said Phillip Neuhart, economist for Wachovia. "Thanks to inventory concerns, we expect housing starts to actually under-perform home sales as builders attempt to off-load some excess inventory."
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