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2006/8/16-17 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:44018 Activity:nil
8/15    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1227204,00.html?cnn=yes
        Every Jewish transaction is about money.        -Mel Gibson #1 fan
        \_ Why was it never publicized that essentially every adminstrative
           post in Clinton's administration was a Jew.  He liked to refer
           to himself as the first Black President, when in fact he was
           the effectively the first Jewish.
        \_ Or world domination.                         -Mel Gibson #2 fan
           \_ Or circumcision.                          -Mel Gibson #3 fan
           \_ Who says it isn't happening now?  There are plenty of quotes and
              interviews from American born descendents who don't want the
              borders treated like swiss cheese at a mouse convention.
2006/8/16-17 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:44019 Activity:nil
8/15    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/15/diversity.ap/index.html
        Explosion of diversity sweeps US, census shows.
        \_ This is REALLY REALLY bad news for the Republicans.
        \_ So how long do you think before the nth generation descendents of
           mexican illegal immigrants start to resent and try to keep out the
           new wave of mexican illegal immigrants?
           \_ Who says it isn't happening now?  There are plenty of quotes and
              interviews from American born descendents who don't want the
              borders treated like swiss cheese at a mouse convention.
        \_ Diversity threatens me.  -average American male
2006/8/16-17 [Uncategorized] UID:44020 Activity:nil
8/15    Jesus Christ, ax
        http://www.imagefap.com/gallery.php?gid=279230
        \_ That's not Jesus.  -Mary Magdalene
2006/8/16-18 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:44021 Activity:nil
8/16    Having some trouble with jhead, maybe someone has an idea:  I have
        a large number of pics with no EXIF creation date, but a correct
        file modification date.  jhead lets you set the modification time
        to the same as the creation time, but I can't figure out how to do
        it the other way around--any ideas?  Thanks.  -John
        \_ Doesn't look like it'll do it.  I wrote a script to do this:
           ~dbushong/bin/filedate2exif
           \_ Many thanks, I'll try this.  -John
        \_ for i in ...
           do jhead -ts perl -MPOSIX -e "print strftime(\"%Y:%m:%d-%H:%M:%S\", l\
ocaltime((stat(\"${i}\"))[9]));" ${i}
           done
        \_ Embed the timestamp into the filename, YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS_nnnn.jpg.
2006/8/16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:44022 Activity:nil
8/16    The Firefox Crop Circle:
        http://www.thefoxtales.net/firefox/crop-circle
2006/8/16 [Consumer/PDA] UID:44023 Activity:nil
8/16    For Treo owners - a review of Palm's new GPS bundle:
        http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/palm_treo_tomtom/1
        \_ I prefer blackberry.  -average American male
2006/8/16-18 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:44024 Activity:nil
8/16    Greatest piece of software ever written is 4.3 BSD:
        http://tinyurl.com/go7lv (informationweek.com)
        \_ Windows is run by more computers than all other OS combined.
           \_ that only makes it common, not great.
              \_ If it wasn't great people wouldn't use it.  They'd use 4.3
                 BSD.
           \_ And DaVinci Code was a bestseller...
              \_ And a fine film!
           \_ And DaVinci Code was a bestseller...
           \_ Last I heard, DOS is run by more computers than all Windows
              combined.
              \_ Was that 1997?
           \_ I have never used any other operating system other than
              Windows.  -average American male
              \_ Aha, you just contradicted yourself!  An average
                 American male wouldn't even know what an operating
                 system is.
        \_ I disagree with the placements but I couldn't have written a
           better article myself. It is somewhat educational but more
           importantly it is somewhat entertaining. Thanks for posting the
           article. Go BSD we'll miss you!!!
           \_ BSD, A Real Operating System for Real Users:
              http://www.openbsd.org/art/44bsd.gif
              At least we still have OS X. :-)
        \_ Whatever happened to spam softwares, X10 pop-ups, and my favorite
           pushy push PointCast screensavers back in the mid 90s? None of them
           made it to the list?
2006/8/16-18 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:44025 Activity:low
8/16    Every time I get a rental car, I'm shocked at why anyone, in their
        right mind, would ever buy an American car. Do engineers at Detroit
        just not realize how crappy their products are?
        \_ They do, but they get paid for it anyway.
                \_ I really don't think it's the engineers, I think it's the
                   management.  But that's probably my bias talking.
        \_ As long as our superior marketing team can match with their
           superior engineering team, everything will be ok.   -Detroit mgmt
        \_ Screw the Japs and the Krauts.  Buy American products.  Support
           our troops.  -average American male
        \_ There are a few good american cars out there. F-150, for example.
           \_ awesome car:
              http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/CrashTestingMINICooperVsFordF150
              \_ EXCELLENT site thanks. Looks like Camry is in fact slightly
                 safer than the Accord. I wonder how safe Priuses are.
              \_ Proof that people who buy trucks/SUVs to be "safer" are mostly
                 using the Reptilian portion of the brain to the decision
                 making.
           \_ isn't that a truck?
        \_ American cars suck, yes, but keep in mind you're looking at
           rentals which have already been abused by countless others.  They
           are bad.  They aren't *that* bad.
           \_ My car was brand new (it had 20 miles on it) and it was
              *that* bad. I've driven rental Japanese cars before and
              even those were a step up.
              \_ What car was it? Why the secrecy? And what specifically
                 were the problems?
                 The Corvette is a good car for what it is. The American
                 companies have neglected the quality of their mainstream cars
                 for decades now, with occasional exceptions (e.g.
                 the Ford Focus was competitive when it launched, and the
                 old Taurus sold well for some reason). Chrysler 300 sedan
                 is supposed to be ok.
                 \_ Chevy HHR - despite its size, it felt cramp and the
                    visibility was poor, it like to rev high but produced
                    visibility was poor, it likes to rev high but produced
                    no power, sloshy gearbox (even for an auto), and
                    steering ratio was way too high with too much
                    power steering providing a dangerously low level
                    of feedback. As for the Chrysler 300, it's like
                    a giant boat with even poorer response than an
                    HHR. Good way to get your passengers sick.
2006/8/16-18 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:44026 Activity:nil
8/16    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/16/D8JHHOUO0.html
        Who knew public opinion could turn so quickly on the PM in Israel?
        \_ I knew.  -average American male
        \_ It's kind of like Bush in microcosm.  I guess Americans are much
           slower to get the message that their leadership blows.
        \_ They've already released two suspects without charges being
           filed.  Looks like it's unraveling.  Wonder how much the mainstream
           media will cover that.
2006/8/16-17 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:44027 Activity:nil
8/16    Democratic Web ad angers some Hispanics
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060816/ap_on_el_se/democratic_ad_hispanics
        Oopsiedaisy!
        \_ "undocumented migrants", ha!
           \_ can we just call them illegal immigrant.
              \_ How about just "Mexicans?" -average American male
              \_ That's what I call them.  But the vote-buyers think otherwise.
              \_ Actually, "immigrant" historically has meant legal immigrant.
                 The proper term is "illegal alien".
2006/8/16-18 [Computer] UID:44028 Activity:nil
8/16    ~dbushong/.vim/syntax/motd.vim
        Goes well with:
        au BufNewFile,BufRead motd.public,/tmp/motd.public.r.* setf motd
        \_ I'm interested, can you please tell us what cool and unique
           features you've put in before we try it? Thanks.
           \_ Just does syntax highlighting.  I added a command elsewhere to
              set my tabstops to 8, but this doesn't do that.  A picture:
              http://bushong.net/dave/tmp/motd-hi.png
2006/8/16-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:44029 Activity:nil
8/16    What do you use to profile in Linux?  gprof only seems to profile
        user code, so how long you spend in system calls doesn't show up in
        the output.
        \_ Not sure. -average American male
        \_ Don't have an answer but I usually just get the utime in between
           system calls. If you have an answer please post it here, thanks!
2006/8/16 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44030 Activity:low
8/16    Typically when we hear about the Kennedy family we associate them with
        the Democrats. Are there well known cases where family members or
        heirs run on different parties?
        \_ Bush?
           \_ Real men like bush. -average American male
              \_ And yet, average American males still won't go down on their
                 partners, which is why we above-average American males need
                 never go lonely.
                 \_ I like going down on my wife.  She's the one who doesn't
                    like it.
        \_ Arnold is a Republican.
        \_ Jay Rockefeller (D) is related to a bunch of famous R's
        \_ Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican while Franklin Roosevelt was a
           Democrat.
2006/8/16-17 [Reference/Law, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:44031 Activity:nil
8/16    If you had the power to pass laws to curb spammers, what law(s) would
        you pass? I will start:
        -Fine $5 for each spam mail sent
              \- i dont think it is so much about what law you pass but the
                 kinds of resources you allocate to enforcement.
        \_ One nail from a nailgun in the head for each spam mail sent.
        \_ Only pornographic spam is allowed. -average American male
        \_ public service.  they must copy, by hand, every spam message they
           sent out, onto a chalkboard.
           \_ eye rape them with tentacles
        \_ make them eat a can of spam for every spam they send.
              \- i dont think it is so much about what law you pass but the
                 kinds of resources you allocate to enforcement.
                 \_ Well, I asked Urotsukidoji and he's just about had it
                    with tentacle enlargement spam.  -John
2006/8/16-18 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:44032 Activity:nil
8/16    For the tip-obsessed:
        http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2005/commentary/works/schultz1.html
        \- FYI: i dunno what kind of setting the article talks about
           but my understanding for Califnornia restaurants is
           "tips can only go to front of the house people", meaning, not the
           management, not the dishwashers, not the cooks. I dont know
           if there are rules at a club with coat check or some other
           if there are diff rules at a club with coat check or some other
           kind of "event" rather than establishment. I assume there is
           some kind of different rules at say a family owned places
           where the server is likely a relative of the owner etc.
           \_ You think wrong.  People tip out to the back room all the time.
              \- I am not talking about what is true in practice. Who knows
                 about that. However, that is my statement about what I believe
                 is the legal mandate in CA. If I'm wrong about the law, let
                 me know. I also dont know how much of this is CA and how
                 much is Federal.
                 much is Federal. BTW, an anonymous "you are wrong" doesnt
                 really mean much. How about some facts.
                 \_ http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_TipsAndGratutities.htm
                    Not explicitly covered: family-run businesses.
                    Not explicitly covered: family-run businesses. -!pp
                    \_ #4: Tips only for "front room".
2006/8/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:44033 Activity:nil
8/16    Hey motd average dude, you are fucking boring.  Your friend.
        \_ seconded -average motd reader
           \_ I agree.  -average motd reader's friend
        \_ I will try harder deleting political shit
           \_ Oh, God, not this again.  Look, fucker.  Many people have
              taken it upon themselves to rid the motd of politics, all
              have failed.  You will fail also, you'll just stir up the motd
              and make it a zoo for a couple of weeks and make a lot of
              people hate you.  Other than that, you will change nothing.
           \_ How about you try harder to grow up and just ignore it?
2006/8/16-18 [Health/Disease/General] UID:44034 Activity:nil
8/16    Republicans will live longer than Democrats:
        http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/08/15/spending.to.death.ap
        \_ Nice trollbait, but the words "Republican" and "Democrat" do not
           appear in this article.
        \_ It's kind of like Bush in microcosm.  I guess Americans are much
           slower to get the message that their leadership blows.
        \_ It's like the estate tax, but the money ends up in the pockets
           of HMO CEOs.
2006/8/16-18 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:44035 Activity:low
8/16    http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/08/the_uk_terror_p.html
        Andrew Sullivan questions authenticity of UK terror plot
        \_ They've already released two suspects without charges being
           filed.  Looks like it's unraveling.  Wonder how much the mainstream
           media will cover that.
        \_ Nice trollbait, but the words "Republican" and "Democrat" do not
           appear in this article.
        \_ And why should we care?
           \_ Because Sullivan's not a raving lefty blogger.
              \_ Best joke I've heard all day.
2006/8/16-18 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:44036 Activity:nil
8/16    http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/news/economy/housingstarts
        Housing sector is FUCKED.
        \_ We need to lower taxes further to stimulate the economy!    -GOP
        \_ LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU!!!! YOURE JUST A BITTER RENTER!!! HOUSING
           PRICES WILL RISE EXPONENTIALLY FOREVER!!! THERE IS NO BUBBLE!!!
        \_ Well, Swami is still on target, any yes Tom, prices are lower
           (here) than they were at the same time last year.
           \_ Target?  Did Swami predict anything more specific than "something
              bad in the housing market" happening "sometime in the future"?
              \_ Home prices will start to fall in Q4 of 2005 and reach
                 a nadir on Nov 17, 2007. -Swami the Magnificent (on 3/22/05)
                 \_ So does Swami want to predict how many more months he
                    will continue to be wrong?  -tom
                    \_ Swami may be right (or at least early by one quarter)
                       *if* you use San Diego County as the metric and you are
                       assuming month-to-month, as the original prediction
                       seems to be be worded.
                       on "prices start to fall" *if* you use San Diego County
                       as the metric; and if you are assuming month-to-month,
                       as the original prediction seems to be be worded.
                       \_ gee, I didn't realize it was still 2005.  -tom
           \_ uh, no they're not, unless "here" is Cleveland or somewhere
              like that.
              "Meanwhile, the median price paid for a home in the
              state last month hit $475,000, an increase of 5.3
              percent from the same period last year."
              "The median price paid in July for a Northern California
              home was $627,000, an increase of 3.5 percent from the
              previous year."
                -tom
              \_ 'median' only works when you have a goodly amount of sales
                 happening.  Once people stop buying and inventory piles up
                 (like is happening) the median price will still rise if the
                 only real volume is in higher-end properties.  Oh.. wait...
                 has this thread happened already?  I'll get my coat...
                 \_ Do you have any evidence to back up your implication?
                     -tom
        \_ http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-homes16aug16,1,1446316.story
           For the six-county SoCal region, prices rose 4.9% comparing July '06
           to July '05.  However, the number of homes sold July '06 dropped 27%
           compared to July '05, and is also the fewest number of sales in a
           July since 1997.
2006/8/16-18 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:44037 Activity:nil
8/16    I used to speak decent Mandarin, many many years ago, and I want to try
        to pick it back up.  Can any motd mandarin speakers recommend any
        Mandarin language podcasts?  I'd rather listen to something that's
        actually cool where I have to work a bit to follow it than some
        instructional "learn Chinese" type thing.  News?  Entertainment? u
        Anything that might be interesting.  Thanks.
        \_ Date an authentic FOB Chinese girl like the rest of us Sodans
           \_ picsP
        \_ Pimsleur's is really really good.
        \_ The mandarin dramas on Channel 26.
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