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2006/1/25-26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:41510 Activity:kinda low
1/24    "Google Agrees to Censor Results in China" http://csua.org/u/erf
        \_ "Do no evil!"
        \_ if you want to do business there, then, follow the local law.
           if you want to bring changes there... well... that tend to be
           less profitable.
           \_ So why don't they follow the "local law" here?
              \_ [learn to indent]
            \_ They do.  They have a reasonable belief that the American
               government's request for search records is illegal.  If they
               lose their court case they WILL hand over the searches.  That's
               what law is all about.
              \_ They are. Refusing to comply with a request can be done
                 within the law.
        \_ Those who would sacrifice integrity for a little temporary
           prosperity deserve neither integrity nor prosperity.
        \_ This is all a sideshow, meant to distract you.
           Someone should really be asking Sergey:
           "What will you do if the Chinese government asks you provide
           identifying information for specific searches, or the capability
           to obtain thereof, or have you done so already?"
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